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HarryVanWinkle -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (5/31/2013 2:52:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aedonix
Thanks for the reply. but we arent so concerned with the content more than the length.


I don't see that the subjects of content and length can be entirely separated. I'm sure those who have said "four to seven sentences" would rather receive, well thought out and written messages that relate to what they've posted here and in their profiles that are several times that length than messages along the lines of "You should fuck me. This is why you should fuck me. This is how you should fuck me. This is what you should wear when you fuck me. This is how you should behave while you fuck me."



TheLilSquaw -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (5/31/2013 3:01:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aedonix

Thanks for the reply. but we arent so concerned with the content more than the length.


That would depend on the content / message you are sending. I've had folks send me paragraphs and not say anything w/substance while I've had others send me 2-3 sentences that where full of substance and got my attention.




LafayetteLady -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (5/31/2013 4:20:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

I get a *lot* of message, most of which are obviously canned, or simple one liners or one sentence. You know, something original like 'hi, how are you today?'

I just don't respond to those messages. Even the nice hi message gives me NOTHING to reply to, aside from another hi, which can get lame very quickly.

I wouldn't write a tome. On the other hand, you want to be witty, original, and not presume too much. If you can talk about what in the profile caught your eye, good. Most importantly, give the person something to respond to. In other words, don't initiate contact, and then expect that person to carry the conversational ball.

Also, don't be pushy and ask too many questions. You don't want the person to have to think too hard about the reply. They might not have time right then, and if they put it off, now you could get lost in all the other email.

Being witty and original (almost always) gets a reply from me.


I haven't finished reading the whole thread yet, but ^this^ is it in a nutshell. I know the OP isn't looking for content, but you can't talk about length without content. Content is the whole point of the email. You could write 500 words on mold damage and not say a damned thing.



theshytype -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (5/31/2013 4:21:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aedonix

Thanks for the reply. but we arent so concerned with the content more than the length.


That would depend on the content / message you are sending. I've had folks send me paragraphs and not say anything w/substance while I've had others send me 2-3 sentences that where full of substance and got my attention.




Absolutely!

Although I'm not looking for anyone and my profile is pretty clear about that so most messages I receive are garbage anyway, I have seen many well-written and creative messages that were only a few sentences - those would have caught my eye.

On a (kind of) unrelated note, I keep reading the title of this thread as 'Introductory massages' and keep getting my hopes up.



LafayetteLady -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (5/31/2013 4:22:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: graceadieu

I'm not sure off the top of my head how much text 500 words is - it's been a while since I wrote an essay, haha. I feel like that's maybe a full page double-spaced in Word? If so, that's much too long.

I agree with the advice of 3-7 sentences. One sentence, e.g. "Hi, you're cute!" isn't enough (I got a lot like that when I was more active on the "other side") and will get ignored. It should be long enough to make it personalized and interesting. But more than a couple paragraphs is just too much for an introduction. You wouldn't give a huge speech the first time you met someone in real life, right?


Again, haven't finished whole thread yet, so if someone answered, my apologies.

500 words is almost one page in Word at 12pt Ariel, SINGLE SPACED. With an extra return between paragraphs. Oh, and that is with margins set at .75 all around.



littlewonder -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (5/31/2013 4:39:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

My profile is so detailed that IF I decide to send a lady a message, it will be nothing more than:

"I really liked your profile and I think we have quite a few things in common. Please take a look at my profile and see if you agree?"



Peace and comfort,



Michael


and see? That would make me just delete you. When I used to get tons of email, I would get exactly what you wrote more times than not. When I see that I just assume they have sent that to everyone and haven't even read the profile. When I was single, I only responded to those who had read my profile and actually responded to something I wrote inside it or something in my journal since I was always updating my journal with all kinds of stuff such as news stuff, life stuff, quotes I liked, etc....

When Master contacted me he wrote to me about something I wrote in my journal I think. It was the only reason I responded to him and continued to respond to him.



SeekingTrinity -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (5/31/2013 5:48:26 PM)

~FRing it~

I honestly haven't bothered to count the words before replying to a message sent to me. You can say a lot without having to say a lot in my honest opinion. For me, it's quality over quantity. The man I'm currently with is a man of fewer written words, but what he does say speaks volumes for me.

If a person sends a one-word message (like "hi"), offers me money to do ridiculous shit (Virginia guy and his $500 offer), or messages me begging to allow me to serve them even though my profile clearly states I'm not looking usually end up going unanswered.



sexyred1 -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (5/31/2013 6:17:52 PM)

For me length is not an issue, what is said, is.

In my profile I state that if you write to me, tell me why and 99% of the time no one listens to that.

If you say Hi, How are you? I love redheads, or you are pretty/hot/sexy, then there is not much to respond to other than say thanks for the compliment.

Just once I would love to be surprised at what someone writes; especially if it was amusing.

Oh, and I also would not respond to someone saying read my profile. Alot of guys do that and it is not only lazy, but if you write me, I always check your profile anyway. I don't need you to tell me to.



tazzygirl -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (5/31/2013 8:15:21 PM)

I send a lot of "thank you" messages. beyond that I got nothing to work with.



NuevaVida -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (5/31/2013 8:15:56 PM)

~ Fast Reply ~

I just went back and checked the Mister's first email (I saved it). 5 sentences. He noticed I had looked at his profile and wondered if any of it resonated with me, as there were things he liked about my profile. So he wanted to introduce himself. It was a nice and unassuming hello and intro, and nothing more. Just very polite. I felt it warranted a reply, so I replied, and it went from there.



kalikshama -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/1/2013 9:19:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

My profile is so detailed that IF I decide to send a lady a message, it will be nothing more than:

"I really liked your profile and I think we have quite a few things in common. Please take a look at my profile and see if you agree?"

Peace and comfort,

Michael


I'd want you to mention what you saw in my profile that we had in common. When I was looking, I didn't respond to generic messages that could have been sent to any woman on the interwebs.



OsideGirl -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/1/2013 9:24:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aedonix

Thanks for the reply. but we arent so concerned with the content more than the length.


I'm with a lot of the other women, 3-10 sentences is usually enough for me to figure out if I want to continue talking to you.

But, I'm also going to add that there things within the content that a lot of guys consider "innocent" that caused me to click the little red X in the corner regardless of what else was in the message.



garyFLR -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/1/2013 12:22:29 PM)

Three paragraphs.

Introduction
Interesting titbits in middle
A polite end paragraph.
Word counts are pointless, you're not under exam conditions, just make sure you get your salient points in. If you think your coming across as tedious, you probably are.

But, I haven't been very successful so far, so don't listen to me [:)].



TheLilSquaw -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/1/2013 1:16:18 PM)

gary,

3 paragraphs?
That seems long to me for an introduction email.

I admit I wouldn't read that.



garyFLR -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/1/2013 1:34:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw

gary,

3 paragraphs?
That seems long to me for an introduction email.

I admit I wouldn't read that.


That's probably why I haven't been very successful.
Thanks for your input. I suppose, if you get loads of messages a day, if the first line doesn't grab you, it gets binned, I see your point of view.



phoenixasubbie -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/1/2013 1:45:57 PM)

Number one- if you message me, I am going to immediately click over to your profile BEFORE I respond. That's just me.


Typically I have to find a profile with some substance for me to respond. My Daddy read my profile and wrote such a genuine, and polite message that I wanted to talk to him despite the fact that he had a nearly blank profile....

All about the content. Forget the fact that before I am a babygirl, submissive, slave..... I am a human being and a woman..... and you go right to the trash bin. Talk nasty to me and you get a message back about manners and class ( depending on my mood ) blocked and deleted.




njlauren -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/1/2013 1:46:40 PM)

I tend to agree with others, 4 or 5 sentences in not bad. I think personally what someone else wrote wouldn't work for me, if someone wrote to me and said "read my profile and see if you are interested" I wouldn't bother to respond (and that is just me, not criticizing the answer, just saying it wouldn't work for me)...To me saying look at my profile reduces a person down to a laundry list of do's and dont's, usually sexual, and even a well written profile is generic.

So what would I want to see?Okay, couple of things make a message stand out 1)They explain briefly why they are interested in me. Someone who says "you have lips that would look great on my cock" isn't what I mean, but someone who says "I saw your post on x, and while I didn't totally agree with it, I loved the way you expressed it" would. It showed they saw something deeper in me, other than an image on a website. 2)They said something that told more about them than was on the profile, like showing a sense of humor (one guy cracked me up once, he asked me "If we ended up together, would I get hit in the face by your wet pantyhose taking a shower", to which I replied "No, I buy only silk stockings, and you never hang them up in the shower" *lol*). One dominant guy who sent me a message after reading something I posted said he enjoyed having subs who were intelligent and could express themselves well...and later cracked me up telling me it was because he enjoyed subs who spent a long time arguing about something like politics, and then having the joy of punishing them for improper thoughts (and it was said totally tongue in cheek, it was written very well). In a nutshell, it shows there is a human being on the other side interested in me as a human being, not someone too lazy in a short message to tell me who they were and what made them send something to me....Hi, Hi Gorgeous, I love T gals, horny?, and so forth, may be short but have no point......



garyFLR -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/1/2013 2:31:14 PM)

At the end of the day, people have different responses to messages, so there's no right answers, only pointers.
I only wish I could summon up the courage to send more messages than I do.



kiwisub12 -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/1/2013 2:43:11 PM)

I received a message on another site that was articulate, indicated that he had looked at my profile and comprehended it - and completely ignored the fact that i was in a committed relationship with someone that i'm going to marry. Weird.[8|]



SimplyMichael -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/1/2013 5:57:18 PM)

On fet, I might write a long reply but since CM encorages fake profiles, its hard to bother writing much. I mean the only surprise is what sort of scam is being run



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