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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 5/31/2013 9:22:03 PM

Marini

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I thought he made a valid point, but I didn't expect it to be illustrated so promptly.

lol, seriously?
You would expect ANY less around here?
I believe in free speech, so let them ENJOY raging and ranting.
Bless their hearts.

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 5/31/2013 9:40:44 PM

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I'm a little confused... expressing disdain for a religion is an attack upon that religion?

I would have to quibble about "a little".

K.

It's sort of amazing, not really because the truth is so obvious, how you who have repeatedly denied being religious get so annoyed when Christianity is not respected in the way you think it should be.

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 5/31/2013 11:06:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

I suggest returning your Ouija board, it's not actually working.

I thought he made a valid point, but I didn't expect it to be illustrated so promptly.

K.

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 5/31/2013 11:26:42 PM

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So this is an "attack" on religion is it?

An "attack"?

Seriously?

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 5/31/2013 11:28:46 PM

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Could you link to a couple of these atheists attacking religion?

Expressions of belief in any kind of non-material reality can be counted upon to draw attack, ridicule, and dismissal from any of a number of people on this board, yourself featuring prominently among them. For you to ask for examples as if the observation was questionable is ludicrous. But on the bright side, it does afford an opportunity to demonstrate the difference between a sincere question and, well, you get the idea. See if you can guess who just recently flipped this bit of smartass at a poster. No peeking first!

Did I offend your delicate sensibility by not referring to your prefered sky guy with proper deference?

Wasn't that fun? Thanks for playing.

K.

Errr... do you really feel that that was an attack on religion? The sky-god reference (as an example) was seemingly used by the theist first?

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 5/31/2013 11:29:59 PM

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I've seen a few folks say that aetheists have no problems with discrimination and it's the poor Christians who are discriminated against.

Tell me folks. Could an aetheist get away with this? http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/it-happened-to-me-my-optometrist-locked-me-in-an-exam-room-and-forced-me-to-pray-to-jesus

Sorry, but she doesn't seem like the type to be unaware of her rights, and the door wasn't locked with a key. Get up and walk out.

And I would have said the same thing had she been Jewish and they tried to convert her to Christianity, or if they locked the door and the optometrist started unzipping his pants.

She foolishly agreed, she wasn't forced. Shit, I'm a born again, and I would have had a few select words for them, even when I was that age. So I don't by the whole, "they had the power" line of crap.

Trying to promote the idea that atheists are "abused" in an equivalent manner to blacks, homosexuals, hell, even Jews is really not promoting your agenda. It is simply making it worse since, after all, we have people like Steel who needs to try to point out his superiority by calling Christians stupid, even when he attempts to do it in an underhanded way.

A couple of things to consider: The Christians on this board have NEVER tried to convert you, or begun the name calling, yet they have been subjected to it every time the subject of religion comes up.

You see, even if we might question our denomination, we are comfortable in our faith. It is part of who we are, and it is a stable situation. We need neither to boast, nor defend what we believe. Not because of some imagined discrimination, but because faith will do that to you.

So I have to wonder if all these belligerent atheists (whether you consider yourself one of them is up to you) need to speak out because they for some reason have this bizarre need to justify their beliefs?

Oh, and I have found that the people who need to try to always prove they are more intelligent (or worse announce their IQs) on a semi regular basis also tend to be fibbing a bit. When you truly have an IQ, just like having faith in God, you just don't need to try to prove over and over.

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 5/31/2013 11:40:26 PM

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I've seen a few folks say that aetheists have no problems with discrimination and it's the poor Christians who are discriminated against.

Hill you do understand that a simple search on Google will also find many examples of Religion being attacked by atheists don't you?

Is it your position that a simple search on Google will not find many examples of atheism being attacked by people of Religion?

Just checking for clarity.

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Tell me... do you see any threads started where people of religion are attacking atheists on these boards? All we see are threads like yours that are a direct attack on religion by trying to claim an extreme element represents the entirety of the religious. In trying to make your point you are just reinforcing mine.

Interestingly, a call for examples produced no threads started that are a direct attack on religion - a few comments from inside threads. Now, I'm not saying that they don't exist (but I would like to see a couple of examples to be sure that you're not just basing your view on faith) but I can't help thinking that you're exaggerating a little.

Interestingly, given the fucking low bar that has been set on this thread for "Attack" I'm going to be the first to post an example - Of a religious person attacking atheism.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2787162/mpage_1/key_atheist/tm.htm#2787162

This grievous and arrogant mockery of my disbelief is offensive and an attack. I am surprised the thread wasn't removed to be honest.

I win!

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I have been reading your posts for a long time and I know you are a fair minded person...I can only figure you and others on these boards just do not realize what your are doing.

Or maybe it is me and I'm too damn sensitive.

Butch

Yep I think you're too damn sensitive.

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 5/31/2013 11:50:26 PM

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If you'd like real life examples of religious people attacking atheists please feel free to pm me. Or come live in Northern Ireland.

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 6/1/2013 3:52:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: Marini

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Hill you do understand that a simple search on Google will also find many examples of Religion being attacked by atheists don't you?

Tell me... do you see any threads started where people of religion are attacking atheists on these boards?

All we see are threads like yours that are a direct attack on religion by trying to claim an extreme element represents the entirety of the religious. In trying to make your point you are just reinforcing mine.

I have been reading your posts for a long time and I know you are a fair minded person...I can only figure you and others on these boards just do not realize what your are doing.

Or maybe it is me and I'm too damn sensitive.

I ignore or/don't post on 98% of any threads related to "religion" on here.
The animosity and hatred makes posting, futile at best.
Thanks for speaking truth, Butch.
Peace and Blessings

I think you may be confusing truth with truthiness. Something to keep in mind is that you don't actually have the magic power to know what other people are thinking, there's no aluminum hat or Ouji board that will allow you to telepathically know Hillwilliams motivations. So instead of making up the dumbest possible motivations for him and informing him that's his position (here's a novel concept) actually FUCKING ask him why he posted that.

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 6/1/2013 4:25:58 AM

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Hmmmm ... examples of atheists ridiculing religion/theists?

Zombie Jesus Day (Easter)

Some of the more "non insulting quotes":

The Beginning Premise (Nice, non-insensitive photo, here)

Another "Cute" little photo that's not insulting, at all

Another example of not ridiculing someone's beliefs

I'd go look for other threads but my eyes and sensibilities have been assaulted enough just to prove an easily provable point.

Peace and comfort,

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 6/1/2013 4:31:41 AM

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I have no problem with people of whatever personal belief flavour having their own beliefs.

The issue for me is when those people become, for want of a better word, fundamentalist, whether that is religious or non-religious/atheist about anything and then start shoving those beliefs down everyone else's throats.

It cuts both ways.

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 6/1/2013 4:57:47 AM

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ORIGINAL: crazyml
Interestingly, given the fucking low bar that has been set on this thread for "Attack" I'm going to be the first to post an example - Of a religious person attacking atheism.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2787162/mpage_1/key_atheist/tm.htm#2787162

This grievous and arrogant mockery of my disbelief is offensive and an attack. I am surprised the thread wasn't removed to be honest.

Just to show how utterly ridiculous some religious can get on this board in their attacks on atheists there is this delightful thread.
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4306358/mpage_1/tm.htm

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 6/1/2013 8:31:48 AM

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Could an aetheist do this?

they do this:

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 6/1/2013 8:40:59 AM

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So this is an "attack" on religion is it?

An "attack"?

Seriously?

I appear to be using "attack" in the same way you used it in Post 27 and DK used it in Post 32.

That accords with Merriam-Webster's second definition: "to assail with unfriendly or bitter words."

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 6/1/2013 9:21:21 AM

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So this is an "attack" on religion is it?

An "attack"?

Seriously?

I appear to be using "attack" in the same way you used it in Post 27 and DK used it in Post 32.

That accords with Merriam-Webster's second definition: "to assail with unfriendly or bitter words."

Actually I misread your initial post I thought your were claiming athiests physically attacked the religious or at least it was more than ridicule that you were talking about.

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 6/1/2013 9:56:18 AM

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Hill what I have been talking about is the treatment of those of faith here on the message boards. There are plenty of things wrong with religion and they deserve discussion.

Personally I am appalled at the stance of many people of religion when it comes to gays…prayer in schools…separation of church and state…abortion…birth control…the teaching of creationism in public schools…the denial of services such as medicines because of religious beliefs.

Discussions on the above is not what I am talking about. I am talking strictly on the insults and disrespect given to people of religion on these boards when discussing these important issues.

Take the issue you posted in this thread. Of all the important issues on religion you choose to post a link to nonsense and worded your lead in to show distain.

Then when I tried to point this out look at response I got… Even if the responders think I am wrong, their choice, there is no need for disrespect. If you had to impartially go back on the threads on religion over the last year and mark the snarky replies and disrespect posted what do you think the results would show as to who received the most?

I am not complaining… I give perhaps more than I receive…I am just trying to point out a perception many of belief have and I believe there is something to it.

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 6/1/2013 10:12:32 AM

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As far as the article in the OP is concerned....I think that dentist should lose his license, end of story. He is a dentist - his job is people's TEETH, not their immortal souls. If he wants to share his faith On HIS OWN TIME, more power to him, but not in his office, and not like a bully.

That being said, anyone with the capacity to be objective knows that yes, people ARE attacked both literally and virtually for their religious beliefs. And yes, I have seen people treated shamefully by religious persons for being an atheist in real life - it was words, but they were still pretty rude and obnoxious words.

Being a bigoted ass knows no religious/lack of religious boundaries IMO. It's an equal opportunity character flaw and display of a lack of social, emotional, and rational intelligence.

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 6/1/2013 10:15:35 AM

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Then when I tried to point this out look at response I got… Even if the responders think I am wrong, their choice, there is no need for disrespect. If you had to impartially go back on the threads on religion over the last year and mark the snarky replies and disrespect posted what do you think the results would show as to who received the most?

I am not complaining… I give perhaps more than I receive…I am just trying to point out a perception many of belief have and I believe there is something to it.

Thanks again for pointing this out.
I seriously doubt that the atmosphere/treatment/or level of disrespect towards us, {on this message board} will change.
It's just great to see it mentioned and pointed out.
Peace

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 6/1/2013 10:28:19 AM

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Being a bigoted ass knows no religious/lack of religious boundaries IMO. It's an equal opportunity character flaw and display of a lack of social, emotional, and rational intelligence

I absolutely agree with you here in shall we say real life. But when it comes to the message boards I do believe the insults are building on one side towards the other. Now this may just be the result of the limited sample of humanity here.

Butch

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RE: Could an aetheist do this? - 6/1/2013 10:33:03 AM

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Marini I was hesitant to even bring this up because I know it will not change anyone's mind and will just be more fuel to the fire. But I think it needed to be said.

What is more disturbing to me is some of the people displaying this attitude are people I very much respect on other subjects...even if I disagree with them.

I just don't understand the why.

Butch

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