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"Would you like there to be a section like that?&q... - 6/9/2013 2:19:45 AM   
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This message board has sections for political & religious discussions, sharing recipes, for the off topic & the random... But no dedicated area for sociology, psychology or philosophy.

I think an area dedicated to those kinds of topics would serve as a handy "go to" section for people interested in those kinds of discussions rather than having them spread out all over, or being dumped into the gorean forum.

Question Two: "Do you think it would be handy or not particularly handy, to have a section like that?/why?"

Question Three: "If there were a section dealing in things like that, what topics specifically would you want to see in it? (Sociology etc, were just my examples.)

Question Four: "If there was a section like that, what would you like it to be called?"

I thought a poll would be handy to gauge the general sentiment on this idea for people not wanting to read the whole thread so the poll question is just:

"Would you like there to be a section like that?" Yes/No.

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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/9/2013 7:23:05 AM   
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quote:

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I think an area dedicated to those kinds of topics would serve as a handy "go to" section for people interested in those kinds of discussions rather than having them spread out all over, or being dumped into the gorean forum.

These topics are not "dumped into the gorean forum". Rather, it is the goreans are have any interest in discussing things like D/s at the species level. So the discussions happen where the interested parties are. The BDSM side is, apparently, much more interested in defining "abuse" and ranting about fin-dommes.

Question Two: "Do you think it would be handy or not particularly handy, to have a section like that?/why?"
see above.

Question Three: "If there were a section dealing in things like that, what topics specifically would you want to see in it? (Sociology etc, were just my examples.)
The topics that interested and at least semi-knowledgeable people wanted to discuss? I'm kind of an avid fan of humans so anything along these lines would almost certainly be interesting to me.

Question Four: "If there was a section like that, what would you like it to be called?"
A barren wasteland? :)

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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/9/2013 4:45:37 PM   
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that's what politics and religion is for.


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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/11/2013 4:07:56 PM   
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Jeff,
I have dumped a lot of my topics in there for lack of a better area.

LW, Re: P&R...
Are you talking about the philosophy found in the bible, or other religious doctrines?
I've found... "You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into."

I can see where Politics may address Sociology somewhat. But Psychology? "Please explaaiiin."

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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/11/2013 4:14:59 PM   
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Ooops**

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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/12/2013 8:39:26 PM   
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My personal experience has been that devoting any topic or area solely to sociology, philosophy or psychology soon derails itself. These are all tools that expand and refine other ideas, applications that enhance situational or conceptual moments.

That comes not only from attempting all three in mundane environments and practicing them (at a non-professional level), but studying all three in-depth during my brief stint in University. (Psych/Bio double major, philosophy minor, and I took the sociology for giggles. Strangely, I did best at the soc, although the psych was more interesting to me. It was a fun year.)

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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/12/2013 9:19:42 PM   
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I love psychology, philosophy, and sociology. Actually, I had no desire in taking any sociology courses but since it was required, I did. It turned out to be my favorite of the three - mostly because the professor I had was a wonderful one.

Honestly, if there were a section dedicated to these areas of interest, I probably wouldn't visit it much. Pretty much for the same reason I don't visit P&R a whole lot. Something I love can quickly turn into something I hate just by watching a few people go at each other. I'm all for a civilized discussion, but some people become too passionate for me.

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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/12/2013 9:19:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ARIES83

Jeff,
I have dumped a lot of my topics in there for lack of a better area.

LW, Re: P&R...
Are you talking about the philosophy found in the bible, or other religious doctrines?
I've found... "You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into."

I can see where Politics may address Sociology somewhat. But Psychology? "Please explaaiiin."


Politics and Religion is the catchall that includes psychology since many people like to lump that in with religion.


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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/13/2013 7:27:53 PM   
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Remote,
I don't think it would derail if the whole idea was to explore topics from a psychological standpoint.
Or the other "ologies"... It's really just looking at the nuts and bolts of things.
Motivations, predilections... Why it is we do what it is that we do.
I think there are some interesting discussions to be had.

TheShyType,
I think a lot of people share a similar distaste for P&R and the type of discussions it generates... I'm one of them, I don't think a Psychology & Sociology type of section would have the same type of problems... Only one way to find out though.

LW,
Thats cringe inducing... I hope many people also don't lump all those things in with religion...
There is much more to psychology, philosophy or sociology than what it says in the bible...


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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/13/2013 7:29:56 PM   
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Don't all replies to most threads come from a psychological point of view?

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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/14/2013 7:53:37 PM   
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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/14/2013 11:02:19 PM   
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quote:

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Remote,
I don't think it would derail if the whole idea was to explore topics from a psychological standpoint.
Or the other "ologies"... It's really just looking at the nuts and bolts of things.
Motivations, predilections... Why it is we do what it is that we do.
I think there are some interesting discussions to be had.


This is probably best demonstrated actively. I'll start with philosophy, also known as the great "why".

Why do you think people need to revisit classification arguments on the forums such as "sub vs slave" or "fake vs real"?

(I can give my answer first, if you prefer, but as I'm starting the example I defer to you to have the first go at it.)



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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/15/2013 7:44:26 AM   
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Aries, I think it's a splendid idea.

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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/15/2013 4:59:20 PM   
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Thanks Dusky, Though judging from the lack of enthusiasm so far it will probably not get off the ground.
I'd want a two thirds majority vote and a few more positive posts before I tried pitching it...

Remote,
If you not digging it, your not digging it.
Without searching too much... These are the kinds of topics I'm talking about:

Leggo my ego*!
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4176503

Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving & receiving the white seed of life (aka sperm)
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4390874

The "Feminine" behaviour of powerless people?
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4436898

Easily accessible topics, exploring ideas with the theme of approaching things in a Philosophical/Psychological/Socio... Or whatever logical way.

If there isn't a big enough demand for that kind of thing atm then, C'est la vie.


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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/21/2013 8:23:43 PM   
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So the discussions happen where the interested parties are.


Bingo. That's why I started posting there in the first place: people with an interest in humans were discussing humans and human affairs. That, and it didn't have some of the more colorful characters from the P&R section, though I'll admit we've had plenty of colorful characters of our own (despite which we've gotten by with less moderation than the rest of the boards). Strictly speaking, religion is the field of humans and human affairs, but since there's this implicit assumption that it has to be bogged down in books (oh, the irony) and concerned with the nutjobs, calling it that invites the wrong sort of discourse, so I'm thinking P&R isn't the place for it.

A seperate forum for the intersection of ethics, culture, language, psychology, biology, sociology and so forth ("religion" for short) would be nice.

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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/22/2013 3:46:02 PM   
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The trouble with religion is, all those other guys are wrong. The cool thing about philosophy is, that much is taken for granted.

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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/23/2013 6:54:29 AM   
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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/23/2013 2:03:11 PM   
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Well, I can't really argue with this statement.

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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/23/2013 4:22:33 PM   
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I was getting the colour/font/size codes to make a new sig and hit post accidentally.

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RE: "Would you like there to be a section like tha... - 6/23/2013 4:51:18 PM   
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ARIES, I found your reference to that post/thread fascinating, and wish to speak to it. I'll have to go back and read the entire thread: http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4390874. For now, forgive me for derailing, and for Heaven's Sake, please get that Section created!:

All that follows are my mental ramblings. I do not imply my thoughts fit or belong to anyone else, and there will be generalizations. I write through the mind of an earlier time, within which one might see a reflection of eons long past.....way before laboratories, test tube babies, artificial insemination, surrogate wombs, in vitro fertilization, etc.

Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving & receiving the white seed of life (aka sperm)

“Therefore, I ponder what deepest most unshakable drive is it that makes ME very strongly always want to insert my sperm INSIDE a woman?

It's a complex enigma when you see how it has taken hold of my mind. I ask: Why does my primary mental focus always zoom straight to the imaginary split between the legs of a woman wearing a short skirt. Why do I enjoy my sperm always SWALLOWED (and not spit out!). Why is cumming INSIDE a woman so vastly more pleasurable than wasting it outside, yet, why, is it so enjoyable to see thick gobs of sperm in movies (where the actors invariably pull out so you can see them cum on the outside of the woman's body or face)?

For me, as a man, there is an extremely strong innate permanently-on driving force to inseminate a woman, any way I can, as often as I can, for as many times as I can. It's there - no doubt - but the question is WHY?”

To which I respond...

CONTROL

Life, and its creation, is sacred beyond measure and understanding, and therefore, those parts involved in creating it are sacred, as well. Perhaps it is the biggest, most important job humans have, because it is from there, all things come and all things are possible.

Might men subconsciously/cellularly/dna-wise have had a sense/experience of controlling life (determining when, where and how it potentially happens) by seminal implantation? Because of them, life sprung/sprang forth and renews...without them it would not have been possible. He was the initiator. It was his power and choice, alone, to create life. Might that have made them feel God-like...The Big Banana?

POWER

Men successful in procreation have literally replicated themselves...they never die and live forever. Huge ego boost, and what power! Power, as Kissenger said, is supposedly the greatest aphrodisiac of all. So might men have naturally feltl overwhelming desire and compulsion to spread their seed fast and furiously? If he had more children to cover the earth than anyone else, he potentially had more influence over the world and the people in it than anyone else. Power.

If humans thought/felt the human body was the end all, be all, once they dropped it they would lose all power and influence, but if they could procreate/recreate and perpetuate themselves selves in descendants, it's as though they never die. In a way, it's like conquering death. Power.

Then there is woman and her womb, which became the sacred vessel for his sacred mission (and emission). Once she was successfully impregnated, her life and body, for a period of time, was no longer hers. She was his tool, and in service to him and his creation/recreation, so he had conquered her, as well, for without him and his contribution, that couldn't ever happen. Power x 4.

Perhaps the desire to “wash” a woman's body with his semen and seed was a way he baptized her, or his territorial way of “marking” and imprinting himself upon her. Either way, both are very powerful...the former being of a spiritual nature, and the latter, physical. Perhaps it was his way of him displaying to himself and her, under no uncertain terms, she was owned (and not to EVER forget it), implying he was far above her. Perhaps it was a symbolic act, mimicking that of his annihilation of her, which goes back to having the power to conquer and destroy. Power.

PLEASURE

Krikey, who doesn't want to feel good...who doesn't want chemical/physical euphoria, again, and again and again?!

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