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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 11:31:49 AM   
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lol.

I have been hit by a car twice.

how does a collision between 2 physical stationary objects occur?

In my case painfully.

As for the physics: supposedly they are vibrations repelling each other.


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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 12:23:17 PM   
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lol.

I have been hit by a car twice.


how does a collision between 2 physical stationary objects occur?







Happens frequently. Only today I dropped my pen onto my notepad.

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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 12:42:30 PM   
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I believe in God because I....feel Him, in a sense. I see Him in so many things because my eyes are open to Him. I have faith that things are planned. There are so many things in life that I see or that happen to me, that have to be bc of Him. One or two things may be coincidence. But the amount of blessings, protection, love, grace etc I have witnessed is not by chance. I have a relationship with God. I talk and there are times, in His way, He answers back.

We as humans don't know as much as we think. In saying that, there are far too many wonders in life to have a close mind to the possibility. Therefore, I have faith. I do believe in science. I believe He gave us the power and knowledge to explore, and experiment. But ultimately, I believe He is first and last.



I'm with TN. I believe in God. I am blessed that I was raised in a family that believes. I am most thankful for my faith in God. My faith helps me get through really difficult moments. My faith helps me to persevere. And when I step outside and take in the beauty of the world I feel God all around me.

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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:04:16 PM   
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lol.

I have been hit by a car twice.


how does a collision between 2 physical stationary objects occur?



Happens frequently. Only today I dropped my pen onto my notepad.

very clever

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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:04:42 PM   
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lol.

I have been hit by a car twice.

how does a collision between 2 physical stationary objects occur?

In my case painfully.

As for the physics: supposedly they are vibrations repelling each other.




and the doc told you the pain was an illusion too?

a vibration is physical.

So if several people get hit by several cars in rhythm we could have a new wave hit sound? Make millions?

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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:05:26 PM   
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There is no such thing as a "christian" atheist.
By definition, an atheist shuns the idea that there is a god or deity of any sort.

They may follow the idea of being a good and honest person but that doesn't make them a 'christian'.



Meh, I think you'll find that there are quite a few christian antheists.

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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:08:26 PM   
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There is no such thing as a "christian" atheist.
By definition, an atheist shuns the idea that there is a god or deity of any sort.

They may follow the idea of being a good and honest person but that doesn't make them a 'christian'.



Meh, I think you'll find that there are quite a few christian antheists.



sounds like the "some-thing...no-thing" to me

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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:08:39 PM   
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You didn't make it clear that it's a non-dissipating system so now you seek to say that it's not actually a drum you're applying your laws of physics to, but a magickal imaginary drum.

The fact escaped you because you were not paying attention. Toys and I were discussing the unmoving mover and I had asserted that all movement is an illusion.



I'm confident that I am paying at least as much attention to this thread, as you are to the laws of physics, if not considerably more.

;-)


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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:12:25 PM   
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There is no such thing as a "christian" atheist.
By definition, an atheist shuns the idea that there is a god or deity of any sort.

They may follow the idea of being a good and honest person but that doesn't make them a 'christian'.



Meh, I think you'll find that there are quite a few christian antheists.

Christian in deeds and motives maybe.
But by definition, if they are atheists, then they are not 'christian' because they do not believe in christ.
That's one of the main things that define a 'christian' - a belief in the almighty, son of god etc.
If you believe in those things, then you aren't an atheist.
The two are mutually exclusive terminologies.

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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:15:56 PM   
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There is no such thing as a "christian" atheist.
By definition, an atheist shuns the idea that there is a god or deity of any sort.

They may follow the idea of being a good and honest person but that doesn't make them a 'christian'.



Meh, I think you'll find that there are quite a few christian antheists.

Christian in deeds and motives maybe.
But by definition, if they are atheists, then they are not 'christian' because they do not believe in christ.
That's one of the main things that define a 'christian' - a belief in the almighty, son of god etc.
If you believe in those things, then you aren't an atheist.
The two are mutually exclusive terminologies.



I take your point, the terminology does feel a little odd.

But there's an identifiable group of people, holding a set of shared beliefs that describe themselves as christian atheists.

I think that their argument is that you do not have to believe in god to believe in the teachings of the chap everyone refers to as Christ.

They are essentially non god believing followers of the teachings of Jeaus.


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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:24:59 PM   
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There is no such thing as a "christian" atheist.
By definition, an atheist shuns the idea that there is a god or deity of any sort.

They may follow the idea of being a good and honest person but that doesn't make them a 'christian'.



Meh, I think you'll find that there are quite a few christian antheists.

Christian in deeds and motives maybe.
But by definition, if they are atheists, then they are not 'christian' because they do not believe in christ.
That's one of the main things that define a 'christian' - a belief in the almighty, son of god etc.
If you believe in those things, then you aren't an atheist.
The two are mutually exclusive terminologies.



I take your point, the terminology does feel a little odd.

But there's an identifiable group of people, holding a set of shared beliefs that describe themselves as christian atheists.

I think that their argument is that you do not have to believe in god to believe in the teachings of the chap everyone refers to as Christ.

They are essentially non god believing followers of the teachings of Jeaus.




but JC is the personification and embodiment of God, so now what?

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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:30:31 PM   
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on what "moral" grounds does an atheist stand?


That'll be the "moral" grounds that don't rely on threats of eternal damnation to do what is right.




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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:33:24 PM   
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but JC is the personification and embodiment of God, so now what?


I'm sure those squirrely godless fuckers will have a good explanation.

For me, I kind of understanding what the term "Christian Atheist" means, but since I'm not signed up I can't possibly say what sort of lawyer's trick those tricksters might pull to get around the Son of God hoo-haa.


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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:43:22 PM   
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on what "moral" grounds does an atheist stand?

Humanist morality.

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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:44:35 PM   
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and the doc told you the pain was an illusion too?

Everything is an illusion. The basic structure of the universe does not move.

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a vibration is physical.

So is the basic structure of the universe, so that concurs.

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So if several people get hit by several cars in rhythm we could have a new wave hit sound?

I have no idea what would happen.



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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:47:20 PM   
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but JC is the personification and embodiment of God, so now what?


I'm sure those squirrely godless fuckers will have a good explanation.

For me, I kind of understanding what the term "Christian Atheist" means, but since I'm not signed up I can't possibly say what sort of lawyer's trick those tricksters might pull to get around the Son of God hoo-haa.




yeh well its a classic case of orwellian double think because so many people now days dont know their asses from a hole in the ground.

They have no real or truly grounded structured base to expand from thanks to our wonderful government school,,,,,erg sorry....indoctrination centers that are teaching them the state sanctioned religion, secular humanist atheism.



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on what "moral" grounds does an atheist stand?


That'll be the "moral" grounds that don't rely on threats of eternal damnation to do what is right.




dood frankly I expected a whole lot more than beer fart on that one, I am surprised thats the best you could muster.


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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:48:29 PM   
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but JC is the personification and embodiment of God, so now what?


I'm sure those squirrely godless fuckers will have a good explanation.

For me, I kind of understanding what the term "Christian Atheist" means, but since I'm not signed up I can't possibly say what sort of lawyer's trick those tricksters might pull to get around the Son of God hoo-haa.



So.... which bit of "christian" don't you understand??
That's where the term 'christian' came from! 

So you can't be a christian atheist.
You either subscribe to the christian ethos, or you deny it.
It really is as black and white as that.

If you follow the teachings of christ, then you cannot be an atheist - at least by definition of what an atheist is.
But that doesn't necessarily preclude that you also shun the idea of being a good and kind person etc.


ETA: The term 'christian atheist' is an oxymoron.

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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:48:51 PM   
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Everything is an illusion. The basic structure of the universe does not move.

Please. At least get your astrophysics right. There is good evidence the universe is in rapidly accelerating expansion.

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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:51:20 PM   
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RE: Why do you believe? - 6/23/2013 1:53:22 PM   
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