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pahunkboy -> RE: Is the use of Drones by the FBI on U.S. soil and taping into our phone calls Constitutional? (6/20/2013 5:18:34 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Consider the following:
On drone use by the FBI
1) The drones in question are not predator drones, for the most part they are less than five feet by five feet, with a basic hi res camera and thermo imaging.
2) While predator drones are used on the Mexican border, and on occasion been made available to local law enforcement for dealing with hostage situations and fugitive location, you must remember these are the exception to the rule.
3) If you had read the article, you would have noticed that these are used when the safety of a human observation team is in doubt.
On NSA monitoring of cell phones and internet use
1) This program started under Bush, and was continued under Obama.
2) My personal opinion is that the NSA is not really looking for terrorists, although they claim to have foiled some terrorist plots, they are bored and are gleaning emails, text messages and cell phone calls of a more personal and explicate nature. Considering how boring it is sitting at a computer all day long, the odd terrorist plot would be a bonus, the continued flow of amateur porn would probably be the norm.
That is not to say that the Official Reason is a lie, it is just saying that the techs working on the program are for the most part bored out of their fucking minds.
Use of CCTV systems to monitor citizens
According to a few sources, the UK is the most surveilled country in the west.
However it seems that everyone has forgotten this little tidbit:
In early 2006, USA Today reported that several major telephone companies were cooperating illegally with the National Security Agency to monitor the phone records of U.S. citizens, and storing them in a large database known as the NSA call database. This report came on the heels of allegations that the U.S. government had been conducting electronic surveillance of domestic telephone calls without warrants.
Lets face it, if you dont want to be on camera, have calls and email monitored, you need to eliminate all kinds of electronic communication, move to the most remote area you can find, and live in a cave or a cold war era missile installation of bunker.
Or you can contact one of a number of firms that provide encryption equipment for private use.
ok so then using government definitions, the government is "terrorizing" americans.
That is EXACTLY what it is.
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