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RE: Forbidden or Just Hidden? - 12/24/2004 10:18:19 AM

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Just another 2 cents worth. Years back i was fascinated by this subject. I found out that while it is by no means common, it is not all that rare either. As a previous message stated, it is not illegal, bu there are not many actual physicians willing to do the surgery on an as requested basis. One is/was Dr. Felix Spector (see http://felixspector.com). I understand he no longer personally does surgery, but supervises a younger colleague. Most of the instances I found involved lesbians, or mostly bi women who were only interested in domestic/house slaves. I was able to correspond with several, both mistress and slave, and found out a few things. For them, it was not a punishment or anything like that. It was a situation in which the male slave was never going to be allowed sex for himself in the relationship. Given that, and his desire to still serve, being neutered just made it easier for both of them. There were other situations too, but much more uncommon. In two of them, the mistress required the operation and then controlled the slave's sex life by the administration or withholding of androgen replacement. THis was commonly by the andro-derm patch or the androgel cream. Someone wrote that castration does not (always) result in loss of erectile ability. THat is true, but it usually does, especially as time goes by. As testosterone is eliminated from the body, the libido also goes. Sex becomes less and less important. These couples wrote that within 3 or 4 days of continuing androgen replacement, the male could again erect and have sex. Within the same period following withholding of the hormone, he again became impotent. One side effect was that if hormone replacement is withheld for an extended period, penis atrophy takes place. A man depends on multiple nighttime erections to maintain penis size. The old saying "use it or lose it" is true. Even when hormone replacement was again started, they never got back to their former size. But, almost all these couples agreed that an erect penis on a male was not in any was necessary for a woman to be satisfied sexually, and most preferred other means in any case. It's easy to see that this course of action is not for everybody, and could only be considered after a careful evaluation of hers and his motives, desires, and future aspirations. You can't undo it; you can replace the hormones, and you can even have replacment silicone testicles. But you will always be sterile and at the whim of hormone replacement or withholding.

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RE: Forbidden or Just Hidden? - 12/24/2004 10:37:41 AM

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Just to comment on this thread as a whole. . .

*I* for one do *not* have sexual relations with my slaves. (I prefer more "alpha" type males for intimate companionship. . .a vanilla guy who just happens to be assertive.) With that being said, I'd have *no* problems with a slave with no naughty bits. If we agreed that he would go through with the procedure during his service to me. . .I'd like to keep the sac to use as maybe a coin purse or something

I've had MANY MANY MANY boys approach me with this whole castration fantasy. . .and yes, for many I think it is just that. . .a fantasy. The reason I believe this to be the case is: 1) Why are they so preoccupied by me wanting to have them castrated when they have known me all of 5 minutes? 2) They haven't done ONE thing for me to make them even *desireable* as a slave (haven't washed a single article of clothing, haven't cleaned my house one time, have never ran an errand or done a chore for me.) 3) And they don't make *any* mention about servitude. . .it's just me me me me me castrate castrate castrate.

I keep all my boys (and their boys) on lock down, so it would be much easier on me to not have to go through the monthly ritual of counting down backwards from 45 to ensure that they "release" (I make it clear to my boys that they get a release. . .and for them NOT to think of it as an orgasm.)

Just my two pence.

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RE: Forbidden or Just Hidden? - 12/24/2004 1:08:56 PM

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If you are REALLY driven to find information and/or those interested in this fetish of penectomy and eunuchism (and it's more common than you'd think)

Here are links that I have collected over the years (my biggest fetish is to know and understand as best as I can about ALL fetishes - whether I am interested in them on a personal level or not - so I've accrued a LOT, lol):

Information:
http://sexchangeasia.com/pages/penectomy.html
http://www.geocities.com/sherrylanina/Castration.html

Forums:
http://www.eunuch.org/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/penectomy/

That will give you something to read and research.

Good luck!

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RE: Forbidden or Just Hidden? - 12/24/2004 11:31:38 PM

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Your grasp of feminist theory and philosophy is saddly narrow minded. Intercourse can be viewed in many ways... is the woman a penetrated object, or a being that engulfs anothers body for her pleasure? To view a potentially pleasurable activity, such as vaginal stimulation, as a violation by nature is to really turn it all on its head and only look at such an act from the male-power position. This need not be so. A little more creativity, please...a little less socially sponsored BS. As for some women enjoying at least some light restraint in the sack... take a look around! We live in a society that has eroticized male on female sexualized violence outragiously! Sleeping Beauty is unconsentually kissed, and just loves it. So many movies have sex scenes that begin with a slap and end with a f*. Don't we all know the classic "no!no!no!...yes!" type of 'love' scenes? Is it any surprise that light minicry of these situations is arrousing to many women, considering all of this? Why, isn't this how a woman knows a man wants her..because he 'needs' her so much he can't afford to give her a choice? Nature or nurture, darling...look at both.

As for the surgical aspect of castration - you're also saddly misinformed here. Testosterone does a whole lot of things, but it doesn't change ones entire life habits. An ass is always an ass, and a good man remains a good man. Sleeping patterns, body hair, muscle content, snoring, voice, sexual drive, memory, a certain amount of agressiveness, bodily aging, and many other things go along with testosterone. There are quite a few negative side effects to removing the testicles, and testosterone isn't the only hormone affected, either! If a man needs to be surgically altered to be good, docile, caring, committed, and subserviant then he has not truly committed himself. I have been served by many men and women who have such wonderful personalities that they are happy to dedicate themselves beautifully - no surgery, no bad sleeping patterns, no speedy aging, no loud snoring, no sudden flab, no loss of memory, and no odd voice changes required. Removing testicles from the body can't make someone a better slave, only use of the brain can do that.
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