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Subs and asthma - 6/24/2013 1:35:33 PM   
Subgirl1010


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Status: offline 		My Master and I have been discussing the issue of my asthma and the best way to handle it if I were to have an attack during a session, especially if I were gagged. Does anyone have experience with this? What worked for you? Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated.
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RE: Subs and asthma - 6/24/2013 1:38:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't have asthma, but I would say that it's important that he know how to use your medications and also use quick release restraints.

As for being gagged, I would suggest that you stick to gags that you can breathe through (wiffle balls, O-Rings) and that be easily removed or cut off.

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RE: Subs and asthma - 6/24/2013 1:56:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Also make sure the gags arent made of fabric. Last thing you want to do is inhale something, even minuscule. Depending on what triggers your asthma, like dust, you may want to bypass the gags completely, even the ones that Oside suggested. It would leave you very susceptible to an attack. If its allergy related, it could block nasal passages. With a gag in place, you would be in even more trouble.

IF you are wanting to do this anyways, my only suggestion would be using the inhaler before hand to open the passages up completely. Make sure your dominant knows how to use the inhaler on you. You dont want to waste time getting out of restraints (if you use them in combination with your gag) to grab the inhaler yourself.

Medically speaking, I would suggest you dont do this. But we all take risks. Without knowing just how severe your attacks are, its best you be cautious and use your own judgement, make sure he is trained, and stop all play at the first sign of an attack.

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RE: Subs and asthma - 6/24/2013 3:01:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		What the others have said really, keep scissors handy to release a gag if needed, take care if you're doing extreme bondage positions not to restrict your breathing too much and avoid things that trigger you off. I'd suggest some kind of other signal as well to show you're in distress. Teaching him how to give you the inhaler as well is good (that almost sounds dirty)
Keep up with the preventative inhalers and if it's a weird patch avoid impersonal bondage (i.e. he holds you down instead of ties you down/up).

Cats set off my asthma, usually only mildly but it is something I've thought about on the few occasions. Keeping the play area clean (ideally restricting the cat from even entering the area), both partners washing hands before play (that cat spit gets everywhere lol), don't let the cat sleep on your rope pile etc... I don't have a pet cat btw, though would love to have one.

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RE: Subs and asthma - 6/26/2013 10:05:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		If I might suggest. Talk to your doctor about advair. I had a "daughter" awhile back with asthma, got her onto the correct dosage of advair and it was a night and day difference.

In the meantime, keeping the play area cool, with a handy glass of ice water will help. Caffeine also helps reduce symptoms, So coffee or soda. If you are an allergy induced asthmatic I can't stress enough removing allergens from your life. Hepa filters and air ionizers do help.

As an interesting side. It is my understanding that the nerves in your back flair up during an acute attack and a good scratch can help. Putting that in a bdsm context, being flogged while having an attack can be interesting. Again I can't report this from the asthmatic side, but she liked it.

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RE: Subs and asthma - 6/26/2013 2:17:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ummm.... the back can starth to itch with an asthma attack... flogging can help with the itch... but not with the asthma.

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RE: Subs and asthma - 6/26/2013 4:51:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I do have asthma and have played with a gag before. My Ex-Dom had me use a specific hand signal if I needed my inhalator which was kept nearby throughout the scene. It was my responsibility to make sure that I had it with me and it was in the play room and beyond that He watched for the hand signal. We did have to stop a couple of times for me to use my inhalator, but mostly it was not an issue. Hope that helps.

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RE: Subs and asthma - 6/26/2013 5:43:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		My advice for him is to educate himself about asthma. Have him go to a doctor's appointment with you where he can talk and ask questions of the doctor. I think all couples should do this if they really wish to understand the health of their partner, not just bdsm people but all couples.

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RE: Subs and asthma - 6/26/2013 11:31:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		proper medication and prevention are the best way but during play some other things to think about in asthma it is no being able to expel the air that is the problem so pursed lip exhalation helps to blow off the co2 so in stead of a solid gag try one that has a hole in it or perforated, and have the head in a position to drool so the saliva does not get inhaled triggering the attack.

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RE: Subs and asthma - 9/19/2013 3:57:33 AM   
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Okay, without meaning to accidentally condescend, you know about daily seretide inhaler therapy, right? because that basically "beef up" the lung function to the point where emergengy use/need of salbutamol/"Ventolin" is unnecessary.

Do you have chemists that can sell you seretide with a scrip?

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RE: Subs and asthma - 9/19/2013 7:45:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not sure what your asthma triggers are, but I know people who can have an asthma attack from things like anxiety. I also know people who once they have an attack it is made much worse by fear/anxiety. I only mention it because if anxiety is a trigger in any way, you will need to think through play carefully. I think Osidegirl's comments about using gags that won't restrict breathing is quite useful and practical. I don't think your asthma restricts what type of play you can do - you just need to think through it carefully, but be mindful of the range of possible triggers and aggravators.

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RE: Subs and asthma - 9/19/2013 8:23:42 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: NoBimbosAllowed

to the Asker of the Question:

Okay, without meaning to accidentally condescend, you know about daily seretide inhaler therapy, right? because that basically "beef up" the lung function to the point where emergengy use/need of salbutamol/"Ventolin" is unnecessary.

Do you have chemists that can sell you seretide with a scrip?


Considering that the OP hasn't been here in nearly three months.....I'd say it's a moot point.


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RE: Subs and asthma - 9/19/2013 9:58:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Considering that the OP hasn't been here in nearly three months.....I'd say it's a moot point.




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RE: Subs and asthma - 9/21/2013 12:33:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: NoBimbosAllowed

to the Asker of the Question:

Okay, without meaning to accidentally condescend, you know about daily seretide inhaler therapy, right? because that basically "beef up" the lung function to the point where emergengy use/need of salbutamol/"Ventolin" is unnecessary.

Do you have chemists that can sell you seretide with a scrip?


Considering that the OP hasn't been here in nearly three months.....I'd say it's a moot point.



I'd never consider seretide to be a moot point, considering the millions of lives it's saved, and also the millions of intellects it's saved (from lowered IQ due to limitation of oxygen) and if anyone else with asthma lurks on this thread, then finds out about seretide if they've never heard of it, it's the opposite of a moot point


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RE: Subs and asthma - 9/21/2013 5:24:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		NBA, OsideGirl meant that the OP is not likely to revisit a thread in which she has not posted for three months.

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RE: Subs and asthma - 9/21/2013 10:29:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I tried seretide and won't use it again. I got headaches, constant sore throat, palpitations and oral thrush that just refused to go away. It may have improved my asthma somewhat, but the side effects were just too unpleasant and long-term that it made me miserable.

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RE: Subs and asthma - 9/23/2013 6:40:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dark Steven: I got that. I wasn't that worried about the OP returning but sometimes, people close their accounts then peruse the boards, as folks do on nilla sites as well.

myotherself: sorry to hear that, and I also know that different people react to the same meds differently. I'm one of the unlucky 10% whom cannot process codeine, so any codeine based meds mean jack-crap to me or any of my blood family. However, just in case it is helpful, I also know from experience that doctors can often precribe the wrong dosage (and seretide is VERY dosage-specific to get proper results) and pharmacies often f-ck up scripts. the good results from a 250 mg dosage will become the horrors you mentioned if someone accidentally or incompetently schluffs off a 500 mg dosage on you.

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RE: Subs and asthma - 9/23/2013 10:18:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		dosage wasn't the issue. There was something in the meds that my body just couldn't cope with. I have the same with other meds (aspirin, for example). Every drug has side-effects - it's just a lottery as to whether your personal body chemistry is going to produce those side-effects or not.

But fortunately there are other drugs that can be tried that can give results that are just as good as seretide, which I have found out.

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RE: Subs and asthma - 9/23/2013 11:29:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Then hey, MAGIC! maybe you could list the medications, in case anyone else is also in your same boat?

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RE: Subs and asthma - 9/24/2013 10:54:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not a doctor. I won't say that someone should use a particular drug online because it's not something I feel comfortable doing. What I will say is that anyone with asthma should work with their doctor to find the best solution for them. It took me a year or two to find the preventer and reliever drugs that work best in combination for me. But what works for me will not work for everyone - the type of asthma you have, the seriousness of the asthma, any other medical issues you might have - they all affect the kind of medication you should be using. In my case, I tried seretide and had horrible side effects and it didn't make much difference to my asthma. For someone else it might be a miracle drug.



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