5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM!

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farglebargle -> 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 7:05:38 AM)
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-307_g2bh.pdf

tazzygirl -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 7:18:06 AM)
Thats very good news for the lady who owed 300K in estate taxes.

RacerJim -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 7:18:12 AM)
States Rights Prevail.... YEAH FREEDOM INDEED!... FREEDOM from big government!

farglebargle -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 7:19:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Thats very good news for the lady who owed 300K in estate taxes. She already got her refund. That's what pissed off Scalia so much. That they were 'deciding' a case which didn't have any extant controversy, and therefore there wasn't any reason to even take it up at that point.

tazzygirl -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 7:22:03 AM)
lol... that was merely an acknowledgement of what that win represents.

farglebargle -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 7:25:23 AM)
Well, thing is, now that Scalia is on record as "We didn't have jurisdiction!", he's going to have a hard time with the Prop 8 decision...

Lucylastic -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 7:26:50 AM)
Fantastic news!!!!!! "The federal statute is invalid, for no legitimate purpose overcomes the purpose and effect to disparage and to injure those whom the State, by its marriage laws, sought to protect in personhood and dignity,” Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in the majority opinion. “By seeking to displace this protection and treating those persons as living in marriages less respected than others, the federal statute is in violation of the Fifth Amendment.” YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

tazzygirl -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 7:30:03 AM)
Prop 8 is gone too

mnottertail -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 7:39:56 AM)
I will hand it to Kennedy, he is pretty consistent on equal protections clause.

Lucylastic -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 7:40:27 AM)
sweet heavens, this week is a good one!!!!!!!!!

tazzygirl -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 7:49:23 AM)
Guess the military, federal and state rule writers will be earning their money now.

shiftyw -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 8:56:44 AM)
YAY!!!!!! Down with DOMA!

Hillwilliam -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 9:03:04 AM)
Excellent decision.

kdsub -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 9:25:39 AM)
It is the proper ruling but I must admit farglebargle I was looking forward to your big government and corrupted Supreme Court ramble if they had upheld it... But my entertainment can wait...There are other rulings coming down soon. Butch

farglebargle -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 10:22:54 AM)
Scalia's corrupt supreme court rant cannot be surpassed, so why bother trying?

joether -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 10:36:46 AM)
I recall back in 1996 when this was first pushed into law by the Republican Congress. I knew the law was unconstitutional back then. And the amount of money used to push it not only into law, but defending it from those who made good arguments that it be removed. As years went by, more and more court challenges took place, and conservatives/Republicans and even the newly formed Tea Party threw dollar after dollar into 'shoring up the defenses'. Not once did any of these groups care about the divorce rate for straight couples. So when I hear conservatives bitch about 'wasting money' by liberals and Democrats, I had to laugh knowing how ironic their 'viewpoint' was. How much money was poured into defending this lame law since it was approved? I have no idea. But today, it is now considered 'wasted money'. Now where are all those 'fiscal conservatives' who are so quick to bitch about money wasted? Do not hear a peep in the population nor on this board! This is a very good day to be gay for many gay people!

DomKen -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 10:46:50 AM)
The great thing is while this ruling only strikes section 3 which means the federal government must recognize all legal marriages it also laid the ground work for a challenge of section 2 which lets states without same sex marriage not recognize those marriages performed elsewhere. The prop 8 standings stuff was the weaseling I've come to expect from Roberts I'm just disappointed that 3 of the liberal justices joined him. Kennedy wrote the DOMA opinion and I cannot see how he could find DOMA to be a 5th and 14th violation but not find all same sex marriages bans to be the same.

Real0ne -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 10:54:30 AM)
good luck with that articles of confederation forward Art4 Full faith and credit shall be given in each of these States to the records, acts, and judicial proceedings of the courts and magistrates of every other State.

DaddySatyr -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 10:58:16 AM)
It looks like SCOTUS has had a pretty good week when it comes to getting things right.

BitaTruble -> RE: 5-4 DOMA is unconstitutional... YEAH FREEDOM! (6/26/2013 1:02:26 PM)
[sm=yahoo.gif] <-- about all I have to say .. er.. emote on the subject!

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