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UllrsIshtar -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 2:31:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

and Never used a safeword? Never broken a limit? How many Long term relationships have you had that have lasted more then a year? Long term Play partners?



Are you trying to imply that those who don't use safewords can't be in long term relationships?

I don't use safewords outside of casual play. I never use safewords with long term partners, my limits have never been broken, and I engage in more extreme edge play than what hrxxx has so far mentioned.
As far as the number of longterm relationships I've had under those conditions: 3.

While I think hrxxx is an absolute wannabe idiot for criticizing other people's choice to build in safety precautions during play, I'm equally rather annoyed at your implication that making the conscious and active choice to not build in those safety precautions means you would be unable to maintain a long time and healthy relationship.

I've frequently played with bondage, cages and chains that I am unable to get out of on my own, and leave me at risk of death by dehydration if the top would suffer a heart attack or something like that. Hell, I did it last night. It's a risk I'm aware of taking when I do it, and I don't diminish it, but it's a risk I'm nevertheless willing to take under certain circumstances.

Who are you to judge my capacity for long term relationships over that?



Actually I'm trying to imply that if he hasnt had long term relationships, or hasnt had a long term play partner, even though he has "never broken a limit" and 'Never uses a safeword" that there might be a reason he doesnt get anyone to stay with him long term and or anyone who wants to play with him again.

Not that... not having a safeword, implies the inability to have a healthy relationship..

IF you had read a little bit further before you jumped in head first with your comments , youd have seen the example I used that implies what i said above.


That's absolute nonsense.

If he's never broken a limit -and you've got no reason whatsofuckingever to doubt his word on that at this point- then there is no reason to assume that IF he has not had long term relationships (another thing you've got no reason to assume) it is due to him playing without safe words.




hrxxx -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 2:39:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

Im Not mentally unstable, Ive seen shit go wrong very very quickly, I understand the risks of the play I do. Hell I bloody teach classes in my community on how to negotiate and one on the various risks of play..

I understand what the fuck i do has serious fucking consequences... And Seeing as people can easily die from what it is we do...

and Never used a safeword? Never broken a limit? How many Long term relationships have you had that have lasted more then a year? Long term Play partners?

I know a guy in our local scene whos like you, he gets a one time play session then everyone says no thanks from then on



Do use a phone in bondag? or can your dom not die, when you are tiede up?




LadyPact -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 2:43:02 PM)

I've got a number of pics of the way the play space used to look on the other site. When I'm able to leave it up again, some of the things will be different. I mostly kept the old ones up because it's just plain easier for the toy collection.

One of the best pieces that I have mentioned here for years is the flogger stand. It's basically a tri-pod with a lazy Susan attached to the top, with coffee mug hooks screwed into the bottom so a few dozen things can hang from it. That thing is great for any time there is limited space or for when going to play parties. Ever notice at some community events there isn't table space for toys? The stand eliminates the need to bend over and dig toys out of the bag in the dark while playing.


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ORIGINAL: Rawni
ROFLMAO! This is true. Been there done that. That is why I must have a back up plan in case something happens to me when I do play... though that isn't so often these days. I have never played where there wasn't a way that my partner couldn't save himself or had assistance that would be there before any harm could be done. We might be a tad bit embarrassed, but we can live through that. I just tell them to blame me. Hehe

No cage here, but my bedroom is perfect for that captivity thing. [;)] All I now need is the captive.

I don't have to deal with the same issues that you do but I've always felt that this is one of the advantages to being a part of a D/D couple. You've got an automatic spotter living under the same roof. Same thing goes for co-topping. If one top would trip, fall, or have another problem, the other top is right there. [:)]


ETA - I've actually started taking My cell phone downstairs for doing certain scenes. Particularly the longer wax play shots. There are definite advantages and reasons that it can come in handy.




SpiritedRadiance -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 2:50:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: hrxxx


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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

Im Not mentally unstable, Ive seen shit go wrong very very quickly, I understand the risks of the play I do. Hell I bloody teach classes in my community on how to negotiate and one on the various risks of play..

I understand what the fuck i do has serious fucking consequences... And Seeing as people can easily die from what it is we do...

and Never used a safeword? Never broken a limit? How many Long term relationships have you had that have lasted more then a year? Long term Play partners?

I know a guy in our local scene whos like you, he gets a one time play session then everyone says no thanks from then on





Do use a phone in bondag? or can your dom not die, when you are tiede up?


As ive said Multiple Times.. No I do not use a phone in bondage, I have Scissors close by that i can access to cut my restraints if something where to go wrong




UllrsIshtar -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 2:54:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: hrxxx

Do use a phone in bondag? or can your dom not die, when you are tiede up?


Dude if you want to defend your argument that's not ever the valid question to ask.

Do you ever ride in the backseat of a car with another person driving? And if so, what do you do to negotiate the risks when they have a stroke or a heart attack on the road? Or even more so, to negotiate the risk of the driver in the opposite lane having a stroke or a heart attack?

We all take risks every day in which we would be royally fucked if something unexpected where to happen to the person in whose hand's we're placing our lives. It's just that some risks (like being a passenger in a car in order to get somewhere they desire to go) are acceptable to more people than other risks (like allowing yourself to be chained or caged up in a manner you can't escape for mutual gratification).

The idea of criticizing others because the level and type of risks they're willing to engage in is different than your own (be it higher or lower) is idiotic, precisely because it denies human diversity.




SpiritedRadiance -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 2:54:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

and Never used a safeword? Never broken a limit? How many Long term relationships have you had that have lasted more then a year? Long term Play partners?



Are you trying to imply that those who don't use safewords can't be in long term relationships?

I don't use safewords outside of casual play. I never use safewords with long term partners, my limits have never been broken, and I engage in more extreme edge play than what hrxxx has so far mentioned.
As far as the number of longterm relationships I've had under those conditions: 3.

While I think hrxxx is an absolute wannabe idiot for criticizing other people's choice to build in safety precautions during play, I'm equally rather annoyed at your implication that making the conscious and active choice to not build in those safety precautions means you would be unable to maintain a long time and healthy relationship.

I've frequently played with bondage, cages and chains that I am unable to get out of on my own, and leave me at risk of death by dehydration if the top would suffer a heart attack or something like that. Hell, I did it last night. It's a risk I'm aware of taking when I do it, and I don't diminish it, but it's a risk I'm nevertheless willing to take under certain circumstances.

Who are you to judge my capacity for long term relationships over that?



Actually I'm trying to imply that if he hasnt had long term relationships, or hasnt had a long term play partner, even though he has "never broken a limit" and 'Never uses a safeword" that there might be a reason he doesnt get anyone to stay with him long term and or anyone who wants to play with him again.

Not that... not having a safeword, implies the inability to have a healthy relationship..

IF you had read a little bit further before you jumped in head first with your comments , youd have seen the example I used that implies what i said above.


That's absolute nonsense.

If he's never broken a limit -and you've got no reason whatsofuckingever to doubt his word on that at this point- then there is no reason to assume that IF he has not had long term relationships (another thing you've got no reason to assume) it is due to him playing without safe words.


Actually After reading his multiple posts I do have a reason to doubt his word...

There also is a reason to assume that if he has not had long term relationships... Or has not had a long term relationship.. there might be a reason why.... Not having a safe word or a way to stop a scene when its gone past what is okay, could be that reason....

Theres also the assumption if all your relationships end quickly, the problem might not be everyone else... its probably you or something your doing.






Missokyst -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 2:57:07 PM)

I am reminded of a local man here who was in excellent health.. 35, built VERY well, and I am not sure which but he was either a cop or a firefighter, so he had a fair share of health exams. He went out one morning for a short run and died before he got to the end of his yard, of a heart attack.

Better to have a way out, imo, regardless of erotic intent. WHICH is to me an assinine way to share kink with a partner you may care for.

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ORIGINAL: hrxxx
if so afraid of your Dom. dies during session then find one with good health and a good heart.






UllrsIshtar -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 3:01:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

Actually After reading his multiple posts I do have a reason to doubt his word...

There also is a reason to assume that if he has not had long term relationships... Or has not had a long term relationship.. there might be a reason why.... Not having a safe word or a way to stop a scene when its gone past what is okay, could be that reason....

Theres also the assumption if all your relationships end quickly, the problem might not be everyone else... its probably you or something your doing.



Show me which posts of his have given you reason to doubt his word that he's never broken a limit.

And if all his relationships end in short terms that may be because he's a drug addict, or a narcissist, or and unemployed looser, or codependent, or a slob, or is a liar, or is a cheater, or a million other reasons.

The ONLY cause you have to assume it would be because he plays without safe words is if you assume that playing without safe words makes having long terms relationships impossible.

If you acknowledge that playing without safe words in no way, shape, or form impedes a person's ability to have long term relationships than there is NO reason whatsoever for you to start of with the assumption that his potential inability to have long term partners is due to him not playing with safe worse.

So which one is i? Do you believe that people who don't use safe words are capable of long term relationships or don't you?
And if you believe that they can be capable of such relationship, then why on Earth are you insisting on jumping to the conclusion that hrxxx's refusal to play with safe words is the cause of his supposed inability to be in such relationships?




SpiritedRadiance -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 3:10:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

Actually After reading his multiple posts I do have a reason to doubt his word...

There also is a reason to assume that if he has not had long term relationships... Or has not had a long term relationship.. there might be a reason why.... Not having a safe word or a way to stop a scene when its gone past what is okay, could be that reason....

Theres also the assumption if all your relationships end quickly, the problem might not be everyone else... its probably you or something your doing.



Show me which posts of his have given you reason to doubt his word that he's never broken a limit.

And if all his relationships end in short terms that may be because he's a drug addict, or a narcissist, or and unemployed looser, or codependent, or a slob, or is a liar, or is a cheater, or a million other reasons.

The ONLY cause you have to assume it would be because he plays without safe words is if you assume that playing without safe words makes having long terms relationships impossible.

If you acknowledge that playing without safe words in no way, shape, or form impedes a person's ability to have long term relationships than there is NO reason whatsoever for you to start of with the assumption that his potential inability to have long term partners is due to him not playing with safe worse.

So which one is i? Do you believe that people who don't use safe words are capable of long term relationships or don't you?
And if you believe that they can be capable of such relationship, then why on Earth are you insisting on jumping to the conclusion that hrxxx's refusal to play with safe words is the cause of his supposed inability to be in such relationships?


I believe you can play with out a safeword and still have a healthy relationship... I never once Jumped to the conclusion that his refusal to play with a safeword is the reason why he has an issue being in relationships. I Bolded the important words you over looked....

YOU did

I asked how many long term relationships he had, Not why they ended... Just how many...

I also asked how many long term play partners not why they ended Just how many

You jumped in with the assumptions, you jumped in with the conclusions Not me.

Why i believe X or Y OR Z about someone doesnt matter its my right to assume or come to any conclusion i want... Could i be really wrong sure can

Doesnt stop the fact im still able to come to any assumption i want for any reason...

Do i believe his not using a safeword, might be why he cant get a partner,... Yes i do believe thats a factor, I also believe its his inability to see past what he believes, and his black and white version of how bdsm works...

And guess fucking what sunshine? I can and still will believe what it want..

Just like i Still hold firm my assumptions about you...What funny is they still hold true after all these years of reading your posts...




hrxxx -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 3:15:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar


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ORIGINAL: hrxxx

Do use a phone in bondag? or can your dom not die, when you are tiede up?


Dude if you want to defend your argument that's not ever the valid question to ask.

Do you ever ride in the backseat of a car with another person driving? And if so, what do you do to negotiate the risks when they have a stroke or a heart attack on the road? Or even more so, to negotiate the risk of the driver in the opposite lane having a stroke or a heart attack?

We all take risks every day in which we would be royally fucked if something unexpected where to happen to the person in whose hand's we're placing our lives. It's just that some risks (like being a passenger in a car in order to get somewhere they desire to go) are acceptable to more people than other risks (like allowing yourself to be chained or caged up in a manner you can't escape for mutual gratification).

The idea of criticizing others because the level and type of risks they're willing to engage in is different than your own (be it higher or lower) is idiotic, precisely because it denies human diversity.





No, I do not think of accident and death, when I sit in the back seat of a car, and I do not go with knife to cut seat belts over with.
And no I do not think of everything bad that can happen, but on the good things that are happened..
If you only want to think negatively in your life, and live in perpetual fear, then you will not be quite old.
If you are afraid all the time, then you nervous, and if you are nervous, then are you doing easy mistakes and when you make mistakes, and then accident happens.




hrxxx -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 3:27:23 PM)

you can believe what you want, you have a good imagination to it




UllrsIshtar -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 3:33:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

Show me which posts of his have given you reason to doubt his word that he's never broken a limit.



I never once Jumped to the conclusion that his refusal to play with a safeword is the reason why he has an issue being in relationships.



You said it COULD be the reason, and I asked you if you were trying to imply that not doing so means an incapacity at holding long term relationships.

Frankly, I'm baffled that you would suggest that his unwillingness to use them COULD BE the cause of his supposed inability to have long term relationships, when you're also stating that not using safe words has got nothing to do with one's ability to have long term relationships.

How on Earth could something that, by your own admission, has nothing to do with something else, be the cause of the later failing?

Your leap in logics is going far passed what's making any sense whatsoever.

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

Just like i Still hold firm my assumptions about you...What funny is they still hold true after all these years of reading your posts...



Interesting that you're attempting to make this personal by putting out underhanded implications of a personal judgement that's got not whatsoever to do with this argument.




SpiritedRadiance -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 3:35:28 PM)

I said Could Because I believe in HIS case it is a LIKELY factor...

Again, My assumptions about you are still Spot on..







DesFIP -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 5:39:52 PM)

No way would I go into hrxxx's play room. Looking at the walls, it's obvious there's water getting in there and mold growing. Extremely unhealthy. So if the girl in the cage has asthma and he falls asleep, she could die before he notices her on the cctv. She won't be able to call for help because asthma prevents getting enough air to yell.




TNDommeK -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 6:39:26 PM)

I was wondering if anyone else noticed that too.




SubvsSlave -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 7:33:34 PM)

I noticed that as well but he did mention that it was his cell and used for punishment. The room that his cage was in seems much nicer.




ARIES83 -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 8:12:06 PM)

Discussing things and drifting around a bit is all well and good, but if you really want to have an indepth debate about these things can you guys make a seperate thread.... There hasn't even been a single dungon or equipment photo in the last two pages.

Actually... Here you go...
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4483786

LP,
Put some photos up dam you...
You "CompPhotoilliterate" dommes have me doing this>[sm=ofcourse.gif]
Even if you don't know how to resize a pic, you do know how to tie someone up and flog them!
Why don't you tie someone to a computer chair, roll them over to the computer, and flog them until they get the photos up?!




DomMeinCT -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 8:44:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

No way would I go into hrxxx's play room. Looking at the walls, it's obvious there's water getting in there and mold growing. Extremely unhealthy. So if the girl in the cage has asthma and he falls asleep, she could die before he notices her on the cctv. She won't be able to call for help because asthma prevents getting enough air to yell.


Not to mention the bad case of athlete's foot that could result from standing in there.




KnightofMists -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 9:24:54 PM)

The other site has several pics of two of my former dungeons. Well moved again last summer out on to an acreage. By the end of the month my third play space should be completed. Calling my play house! It's a 20x12 building that I am insulating and finishing inside. When done... Will put pics of the new space on the other site.




ResidentSadist -> RE: Dungeon and Equipment Photos! (6/30/2013 9:30:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: myotherself
I'm most impressed by the bunny ears on the cross [:D]

"Run rabbit run" and the bunny ears to go with it are mandatory things in my life. Even Master wears them on special occasions like Easter.

[img]http://www.collarme.com/photos/408246p03.jpg[/img]





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