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RE: Since we're doing FAT today. - 6/27/2006 1:30:31 PM

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I do not expect my Dom to help me with such things. I am self motivated to keep fit. He has told me as he increases his control over me that this may or may not come under his discretion. He has more often than not told me to indulge myself because I do not very often, until he gave me permission to have a Pepsi a few weeks ago. I had not had one in two years for example. My Dom is pretty good to me, but yes I am expected to exercise (but I am a fitness nut anyhow), I know he prefers me not to gain weight, and I am compliant on these things. He has also told me I am to ask his permission before I eat his chocolate chips from now on (damn they are soooo tasty!).

I think that a dominant should not destroy a sub's sense of self on a quest to remake her in the image he has in his head of what he wants her to be. If she is happy with herself and her wieght and if a particular dom has different ideas of what she should look like I think that the dom shouldn't harm her sense of self by insisting on weight loss. I have seen a lot of subs that were collared and only then did their weight become an issue to be changed. I think this is cruel because if a dom cannot accept a sub the way she is perhaps they should find another? Just my thoughts..etc

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RE: Since we're doing FAT today. - 6/27/2006 1:47:05 PM

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Mmm, yes, control of when you eat, what you wear, when you urinate, when you orgasm, how you exercise... all at the heart of my submissive sexuality. In fact I think I've only been out with men who've controlled that to some extent or at some point - they have to want to; I'd never want someone to control something simply because I wanted them to or that defeats the whole purpose and of course like any submission I ever give anyone it doesn't start, doesn't even get to first base unless they're better than me, more knowledgeable (and that would include about diet and exercise) and cleverer. I was a bikram yoga yesterday and it felt so submissive, being told how and when to move, breathe, bend; like when I sing in choirs when even your breathing is controlled, how you pronounce a word, speak.... Submissive hobbies..

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RE: Since we're doing FAT today. - 6/27/2006 5:02:46 PM

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I would expect one submitting to me to eat somewhat healthily (but we can't completely do away with snacks ), and exercise moderately. I expect the same from myself. I don't do this to try to make someone look like a fitness model; as long as they're making a reasonable effort, I don't see that there would be a problem.

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RE: Since we're doing FAT today. - 6/27/2006 8:07:17 PM

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Master has never put me down because of my weight of which I am possibly around 50 lbs over my optimal for my height. However, he does insist now that He owns me that I eat a much more healthy diet of lean meats vegetables and more water. I am glad because personally... I love all those horrible little carbs like fresh baked bread... pasta... candy.. etc etc etc..

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RE: Since we're doing FAT today. - 6/27/2006 8:16:50 PM

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LOL todays just not a good day to be fat huh!!!

And honestly its great if a Dom wants to help his sub get fit but over all it has to be if the sub wants too... if your getting into a relationship with an over waight sub then dont do so with the thought that you will change them you have to go into loveing the person for who they are... if they can change and want to change thats great but you have to be able to exept them as is when talking them on a sub you cant exept them with condition like "you can be my sub only if you lose waight" thats no good

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RE: Since we're doing FAT today. - 6/27/2006 8:47:49 PM

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I'm a big girl, I was bigger when I got together with my Partner.. From day one He told me I was the most beautiful thing he'd ever seen. If I gripe about how I look or how I feel he'll pour on the compliments but he'll also say something like "well lets go for a walk today then". The fact that I'm trying to lose weight is because I want to, my partner is there if I want assistance (he's a demon in the kitchen so if I show up with some new "healthy meal" idea he's on the ball to cook it) but he would never reprimand me for what size/shape I am and never ask me to change it. He says he saw me as beautiful from the get go and no matter what I always will be, why? because he's adult enough to look beyond what flesh is on the surface.

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RE: Since we're doing FAT today. - 6/28/2006 3:10:34 AM

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I would have to say that it would have to be a decision made between the Dom and the sub/slave. If he decided to be with her and she was fat...then he should want to be with her as is...not wanting to change her. Some women and men are comfortable with their size and don't feel they should have to change to please someone.

My boyfriend loves the way I look and would never ask me to lose/gain weight for him...if I chose to lose weight, he would support me and help anyway he can.

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RE: Since we're doing FAT today. - 6/28/2006 3:40:52 AM

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One thing that confirms my status as a stodgy grownup is my newfound affinity for Cottage Cheese as a snack. I must also confess to being a food label reader, and if read sugar, fat, or sky high calories leves for a particular food --- it now strikes me like a skull and bones warning. Overall, I've really changed the way I eat, and its been about a five year period of adjustement from one set of values at age 36 to a completely different set of values at age 41. Here's a small breakdown of how it went.

Conversion from whole milk to 2%.

Phasing out all fast food.

Cutting portions but not the frequency of my meals.

Dialing down on pasta and potatoes.

Cuttting way back on beer, soda, and fruit drinks. Converting to diet coke (with lots of squeezed lemon.)

Eating more eggs.

Cutting fequency and portion sizes of all sweets / desert items.

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None of the above represents a diet. No, each thing is an actual, permenant lifestyle change.

I'm lucky too, b/c I do the food shopping and cooking of the household, so no tempting contraband makes its way into the house.

Without the changes I made, I'd be overweight, regardless of how much exercise I might do. I had to make a conscious choices.

Everyone has their own challenge, for sure... but IMO the real starting point is food selection.

What undermines food selection? ---Eating out, not reading labels, not understanding how foods affect you, letting someone else grocery shop, and letting someone else cook for you.

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RE: Since we're doing FAT today. - 6/28/2006 3:49:23 AM

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Expect no, support yes.

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RE: Since we're doing FAT today. - 6/28/2006 5:54:44 AM

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Well, to be honest....my Master is overweight, and my Lord I'd think is about average for a man. Master is happy with herself at her size, and I must say she is quite a stunner and very sexy and the size she is. My Lord I'd say is somewhat happy with how he looks...he has a bit of a belly that he would like to get rid of...but other than that, he is happy. They both know of my food and weight issues....and Master is very supportive of me wanting to be healthy, as is Lord...however they both have a tendensy for junk food...so to please them, when shopping I must buy it, and it is mighty tempting...I'll admit, I've been drink too much soda, and not enough water. So I'm working on that...I make sure when I cook for them it is balenced and healthy....and if they choose to eat junk after those meals, I chalk it up to thinking at least they've also had a good amount of "good" food, so I'm happy with that.

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