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Fightdirecto -> We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/7/2013 4:02:17 PM)
Deport The Statue Of Liberty! quote: In this time of crisis, there is no room for negotiation when it comes to the legal status of our nations residents and culture. As Congress debates immigration reform, it is imperative that we do our best to preserve American culture. For this reason, we, the Legals for the Preservation of American Culture (LPAC), have launched a campaign to deport the Statue of Liberty back to France. We call on US citizens, like you, to join us in insisting that our government remove the statue for the sake of our nation's heritage and its future. We need to #takelibertyback and #deportthestatue NOW! www.DeportTheStatue.us

Fightdirecto -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/7/2013 4:04:05 PM)
Deport The Statue quote: Deport the Statue of Liberty? Crazy, right? Well, yes. But you know what’s really crazy? Deporting millions of human beings who have lived and worked in the U.S. for years and call this country their home. That is what’s been happening for years under U.S. immigration policy. Today, we have the chance -- and the power -- to change that. Public opinion today strongly favors fair, common-sense immigration reform. What’s more, the Obama administration and Congress finally appear committed to making it happen. At the end of June, the Senate passed an immigration reform bill that could help millions of immigrants -- more than half of them women -- live up to their full potential, and help our country do the same. Although the path to citizenship included in the current bill comes at a huge cost -- increased enforcement that could have devastating effects for many-- this is our chance to push for immigration reform that protects human rights and due process for all. That's why we had to get extra-creative. We created the red herring "LegalsPAC," the Legals for the Preservation of American Culture, a group focused on deporting the statue of liberty due to her immigration status. Led by fictional CEO Harvey Knowles Brier, our humorous and fictional universe stretched from spoof twitter accounts to websites to email threads. The fictional world was created solely to help build a larger and louder groundswell than ever around immigration in the U.S. And so far, it's been working. We've been featured in the Huffington Post, and had a spot on Wolf Blitzer's Situation Room on CNN that was rebroadcast across the country by over 40 news channels. Today, we have the opportunity to #TakeLibertyBack -- to build an America that values the freedom, dignity, and humanity of all the women, men, and children who live here.

Termyn8or -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/7/2013 9:58:45 PM)
Deport them all if they do not go through the process. My ancestors did, learned the language and got jobs. Never took a dime from the government. If they can do that and stay under THE QUOTA then they can come. There are quotas because we have too many people. And there is no such thing as an illegal imigrant, they are illegal aliens until they have the legal right to be here. In fact don't deport them to their home countries, deport them somewhere else, like the West Bank or Nigeria or something. If you don't do something about this shit you'll be sorry. A bunch of European countries are EXTREMELY sorry the laxed their immigration policies, which still tougher than ours. What's more they do not put up with illegal aliens. Try that shit in Australia. Try that shit on the way to Israel, they will blow you ourt of the water before you ever get there. They have secure borders you see. Why not us ? T

fucktoyprincess -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/8/2013 1:31:42 PM)
Deport the statue - this is pretty funny - regardless of what side of the debate one is on. I esp liked the second piece where she gets a call from the Gandhi statue in Union Square. [:D]

vincentML -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/8/2013 3:43:07 PM)
quote: Deport them all if they do not go through the process. My ancestors did, learned the language and got jobs. Never took a dime from the government. If they can do that and stay under THE QUOTA then they can come. There are quotas because we have too many people. By what metric do you arrive at "too many people?" Seems like there is plenty of open, unused land and there are many small praire towns that have been dying or have disappeared from loss of jobs and population.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/8/2013 5:04:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Deport them all if they do not go through the process. My ancestors did, learned the language and got jobs. Never took a dime from the government. If they can do that and stay under THE QUOTA then they can come. There are quotas because we have too many people. And there is no such thing as an illegal imigrant, they are illegal aliens until they have the legal right to be here. In fact don't deport them to their home countries, deport them somewhere else, like the West Bank or Nigeria or something. If you don't do something about this shit you'll be sorry. A bunch of European countries are EXTREMELY sorry the laxed their immigration policies, which still tougher than ours. What's more they do not put up with illegal aliens. Try that shit in Australia. Try that shit on the way to Israel, they will blow you ourt of the water before you ever get there. They have secure borders you see. Why not us ? T Your ancestors may have but the ones that preceded your great grandparents....didn't. We're beyond the point where we can welcome any ship that comes in to our harbors, but we have also long forgotten where we came from. Everywhere.

mstrj69 -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/8/2013 5:21:27 PM)
I am not against the idea of people from another country wanting to come here and work to better themselves. I am against those that think once here the government owes them a good life just because they made it here. Actually, I am even against citizens who feel they are owed something. There are plenty of jobs, and just because you don't want to do it doesn't mean you should get paid not to do anything.

Termyn8or -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/8/2013 5:47:54 PM)
Plenty of jobs where ? North Dakota ? T

thishereboi -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/8/2013 6:42:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: Deport them all if they do not go through the process. My ancestors did, learned the language and got jobs. Never took a dime from the government. If they can do that and stay under THE QUOTA then they can come. There are quotas because we have too many people. By what metric do you arrive at "too many people?" Seems like there is plenty of open, unused land and there are many small praire towns that have been dying or have disappeared from loss of jobs and population. And who do you suppose is going to pay to introduce new industries to the areas in order to provide jobs and promote growth. I am pretty sure if the immigrants had the cash they wouldn't have to resort to sneaking in here and picking fruit for shitty wages. If the areas in question had the money they would have already done it. So where is the cash coming from?

tazzygirl -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/8/2013 6:44:48 PM)
There are more in the service industry than in the "lettuce picking" industry.

DaddySatyr -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/8/2013 7:14:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Plenty of jobs where ? North Dakota ? T Indeed! Unemployment has been 7.5% or higher for 54 straight months (and that doesn't count the people that just stopped trying). I saw a stat, the other day that said that only 47% or Americans were employed, full time. That means that more than half are either unemployed, underemployed or have just thrown in the towel. So, fewer people are left to pay for the programs that help the poor and working poor. Once the mandate for employers on Obummercare kicks in, you're going to see less full time employment, also. It's a HUGE shit sandwich. Open up and take a bite, people! Peace and comfort, Michael

tazzygirl -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/8/2013 7:36:45 PM)
~FR ~sighs In the United States, the civilian noninstitutional population refers to people 16 years of age and older residing in the 50 States and the District of Columbia who are not inmates of institutions (penal, mental facilities, homes for the aged), and who are not on active duty in the Armed Forces. According to Breitbart (which is where this all came from, by way of the Examiner's link) On Friday, the Labor Department announced that we added 195,000 jobs in June. That is good news. The bad news is that many of them are parttime jobs. Only 47% of Americans are working full time. http://www.examiner.com/article/only-47-of-americans-are-working-full-time Of the 144 million Americans employed last month, only 116 million were working full-time. Friday's report showed that 58.7% of the civilian adult population of 245 million was working last month. Only 47% of Americans, however, had a full-time job. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/05/only-47-americans-have-full-time-job Yes, they are counted differently... for example... from the BLS site... The civilian noninstitutional population consists of persons 16 years of age and older residing in the 50 States and the District of Columbia who are not inmates of institutions (for example, penal and mental facilities and homes for the aged) and who are not on active duty in the Armed Forces. California is the most populous State, with about 29.3 million persons in this category in 2012; Wyoming is the least populous State, with approximately 445,000 persons. However.... The civilian labor force consists of all persons classified as employed or unemployed as described above. California (18.5 million) and Wyoming (306,000) had the largest and smallest labor force levels, respectively, in 2012. http://www.bls.gov/lau/rdscnp16.htm So, somewhere along the link California has a difference between 29.3 and 18.5... Wyoming went from 445K to 306K. Question is... where did the almost 10 million difference in California go and why arent they counted in the labor force, and what effect would that have on breitbart's numbers? Maybe I can find some candy for the one who comes up with that reason... [;)]

thishereboi -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/8/2013 8:12:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl There are more in the service industry than in the "lettuce picking" industry. Either way they don't have the cash needed to start up businesses in the areas he is talking about.

BamaD -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/8/2013 10:44:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Plenty of jobs where ? North Dakota ? T Would be if they'd build the pipeline.

MrRodgers -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/8/2013 10:56:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Plenty of jobs where ? North Dakota ? T Health care. But as far as deportation, why now ? The colonies didn't and I am damn glad of it. My ancestors came to Jamestown around 1610 to 1620....no papers required. This is what they faced. The first meeting of the 22-member assembly met on July 30 - Aug. 3, 1619 at a church in Jamestown. (imagine congress in session all of about 4 days) Still they did more than ours does now all year. Government in a church ? Most of the laws passed during that first session involved tobacco and taxes and measures against drunkenness, idleness and gambling. (we were Irish too...there goes the neighborhood) They even approved legislation regulating relations with the Powhatans and mandatory church attendance. Those damn regulations. On the last day of assembly, they approved the "greate Charter of 1618" that became the first Constitution of Virginia. Imagine if you will, a state constitution composed and approved in say about 1-4 days. Indulge me, I love looking back into our history. Gives me perspective. My family never thought of going back and Jamestown 'welcomed' them.

MrRodgers -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/9/2013 3:56:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl ~FR ~sighs In the United States, the civilian noninstitutional population refers to people 16 years of age and older residing in the 50 States and the District of Columbia who are not inmates of institutions (penal, mental facilities, homes for the aged), and who are not on active duty in the Armed Forces. According to Breitbart (which is where this all came from, by way of the Examiner's link) On Friday, the Labor Department announced that we added 195,000 jobs in June. That is good news. The bad news is that many of them are parttime jobs. Only 47% of Americans are working full time. http://www.examiner.com/article/only-47-of-americans-are-working-full-time Of the 144 million Americans employed last month, only 116 million were working full-time. Friday's report showed that 58.7% of the civilian adult population of 245 million was working last month. Only 47% of Americans, however, had a full-time job. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/05/only-47-americans-have-full-time-job Yes, they are counted differently... for example... from the BLS site... The civilian noninstitutional population consists of persons 16 years of age and older residing in the 50 States and the District of Columbia who are not inmates of institutions (for example, penal and mental facilities and homes for the aged) and who are not on active duty in the Armed Forces. California is the most populous State, with about 29.3 million persons in this category in 2012; Wyoming is the least populous State, with approximately 445,000 persons. However.... The civilian labor force consists of all persons classified as employed or unemployed as described above. California (18.5 million) and Wyoming (306,000) had the largest and smallest labor force levels, respectively, in 2012. http://www.bls.gov/lau/rdscnp16.htm So, somewhere along the link California has a difference between 29.3 and 18.5... Wyoming went from 445K to 306K. Question is... where did the almost 10 million difference in California go and why arent they counted in the labor force, and what effect would that have on breitbart's numbers? Maybe I can find some candy for the one who comes up with that reason... [;)] Did I miss something in your numbers ? For the US about 10,000/DAY have been retiring for sometime. 40% of all people in the US over 55 are retired. For a total as of 2012 of 60 million retired and another 3.65 million retiring every year. It isn't just that people are no longer looking and not working and not counted but they are also...retiring. Here

vincentML -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/9/2013 10:16:41 AM)
quote: And who do you suppose is going to pay to introduce new industries to the areas in order to provide jobs and promote growth. I am pretty sure if the immigrants had the cash they wouldn't have to resort to sneaking in here and picking fruit for shitty wages. If the areas in question had the money they would have already done it. So where is the cash coming from? Actually, the meat packers, hospitality, and construction industries have been primary employers of undocummented workers. The meat packers especially in the prairie towns. The areas in question were dying because they were losing their young people migrating to the cities. They are being reinvigorated by the influx of newcomers. Population depletion is an economic problem. Bring in new people and Walmart is sure to follow. An expanding economy follows an expanding population. NO? Ask the demographically challenged Japanese or Russians. Witness the decline of the baby boom consumers.

Hillwilliam -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/9/2013 11:12:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Plenty of jobs where ? North Dakota ? T Would be if they'd build the pipeline. Actually, N Dakota already has the lowest unemployment of any state at 3.2% http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

subrob1967 -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/9/2013 11:12:24 AM)
FR Can an inanimate object be called an illegal alien? I'd have to say no, but we all know ole Jazz Hands isn't the brightest bulb in the fixture.

stef -> RE: We must get rid of illegal immigrants! (7/9/2013 11:20:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 FR Can an inanimate object be called an illegal alien? I'd have to say no, but we all know ole Jazz Hands isn't the brightest bulb in the fixture. Again with the irony. You are a veritable comedy treasure.

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