RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union.

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mnottertail -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/17/2013 10:25:30 AM)
I understand what I said, I said that your asswipe about individual rights is asswipe. quote: Apparently you fail to grasp that government has both a fiduciary and trust covenant to protect individual rights.... You said that stupid shit there, and said it as if it was a valid premise. It ain't. Therefore, since it is one of the candidates for the stupidest fuckin bit of trash ever said, all that follows is proof of that concept. Done.

Real0ne -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/17/2013 10:34:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail I understand what I said, I said that your asswipe about individual rights is asswipe. quote: Apparently you fail to grasp that government has both a fiduciary and trust covenant to protect individual rights.... You said that stupid shit there, and said it as if it was a valid premise. It ain't. Therefore, since it is one of the candidates for the stupidest fuckin bit of trash ever said, all that follows is proof of that concept. Done. hey fair enough, have it YOUR WAY! Ok so the constitution was created to protect SOMETHING ALRIGHTEE but NOT INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS! I agree! So what does it protect? Last time I checked I as well as every"ONE" reading this is an INDIVIDUAL, if it does not protect any"ONE" why the fuck would any"ONE" want it in the first place? and worse where the hell are your FACTS AND EVIDENCE that EVERY ONE is in fact subject to it?

mnottertail -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/17/2013 10:36:12 AM)
I refer you to the world outside your basement. It is the Nation called The United States of America.

Real0ne -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/17/2013 10:38:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail I refer you to the world outside your basement. It is the Nation called The United States of America. I did not ask for your belches and beer farts, I asked for FACTS AND EVIDENCE.

mnottertail -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/17/2013 10:43:04 AM)
They are foreign concepts to you. I refer you to the dictionary meanings of the words: Facts and Evidence. Which I have amply provided you, outside your basement.

Phydeaux -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/17/2013 10:44:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail I do not see anywhere in the constitution or its addendums that there is an obligation to protect individual rights. What?

mnottertail -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/17/2013 10:46:43 AM)
It is third grade level for comprehension, it is English. You do the math.

vincentML -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/17/2013 12:30:41 PM)
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Real0ne -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/17/2013 4:06:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail I understand what I said, I said that your asswipe about individual rights is asswipe. but I agreed with you. so how does that work out? quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail They are foreign concepts to you. I refer you to the dictionary meanings of the words: Facts and Evidence. Which I have amply provided you, outside your basement. Again: I could give a rats ass about your insistence putting up beer farts and belches as your defense. simply put you have no facts and evidence to back your shit up. Hell you couldnt even give Phydeaux an answer much less a straight answer LMAO youre still smarting and bleeding over the fact that the law in this country is based on english law as the supreme court has shown numerous times. You did nothing of the sort, last time ended up with me giving you a detailed grammar lesson that as we can see was a waste of time. Just think if you can prove that the government is anything more than a house of cards that a big bad flea can blow down with a sneeze I will have to actually concede the point. so come on just one little teenee weenee incontrovertible fact .....just one!

Real0ne -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/17/2013 4:07:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML FR [sm=popcorn.gif] the least you can do is help him.

mnottertail -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/17/2013 4:08:55 PM)
Yeah, your facts are missing again and still, just slobbering hallucinogenic jingos as usual, you couldnt give grammar lessons to a fuckin pig, it is the waste of a pigs time they aren't that dense.

Real0ne -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/17/2013 4:15:51 PM)
this however is a fact: quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail I do not see anywhere in the constitution or its addendums *that there is an obligation to protect individual* rights.** you said it man so now you want to back out is that it?

mnottertail -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/17/2013 4:17:43 PM)
No, where did your blown head pipe go to? You lost it somewhere, its like a flashback. I said that. I made no extraordinary claim, you did that the government is charged with protecting an individuals rights. No, they say you have a right to redress your grievances, that is all.

Real0ne -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/17/2013 4:46:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail No, where did your blown head pipe go to? You lost it somewhere, its like a flashback. I said that. I made no extraordinary claim, you did that the government is charged with protecting an individuals rights. No, they say you have a right to redress your grievances, that is all. grieve all you want, the 7th circuit determined that the state has no obligation to protect you. So they are no different than any other other group of assholes like al capone standing on their soap box telling us this is the fucking way its a gonna be, and if you dont like it come see your good pal al and we will happily listen to your pissing and moaning before telling you to go fuck yourself. Just remember pally dis territory belongs to big al and if you fuck wit big al I will send my boys over to have a little talk wit you. capice? says so right in the statutes, their obligation is to protect the fucking state not you. Oh hell I certainly would not want to overlook addressing your grieviating claim. Many people had greiviations before in this state and they like big Al listened and then told everyone to GO FUCK YOURSELVES UNTIL WE FIGGER IT OUT! Well they never figgered it out. In this state as well as yours the CONSTITUTION states that all lands are allodial. art. I, s. 14 of the Wisconsin Constitution. Feudal tenures; leases; alienation. All lands within the state are declared to be allodial, and feudal tenures are prohibited. Leases and grants of agricultural land for a longer term than fifteen years in which rent or service of any kind shall be reserved, and all fines and like restraints upon alienation reserved in any grant of land, hereafter made, are declared to be void. Yep and of course that means no taxes can be levied and that means eminent domain absolutely cannot exist. Allodial land has ever had only one meaning throughout history, but all that greviation only served to get peoples asses kicked to the curb for their redress. Well guess what, ole Al said that he is going to tax everyone ANYWAY and damn straight eminent domain is alive and well in the state. So once again how then are you or I a party to the constitution? Last time I checked I am not the State.

mnottertail -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/18/2013 7:30:08 AM)
grieve all you want, the 7th circuit determined that the state has no obligation to protect you. I aint grieving. I stated that is the case at the fucking outset of your continual incoherent and untutored tinfoiling. The notion is fucking ridiculous, and it is not legal or constitutional that the government protects your individual rights. We, the People.....redress of grievances.....nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Real0ne -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/18/2013 10:05:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail grieve all you want, the 7th circuit determined that the state has no obligation to protect you. I aint grieving. I stated that is the case at the fucking outset of your continual incoherent and untutored tinfoiling. The notion is fucking ridiculous, and it is not legal or constitutional that the government protects your individual rights. We, the People.....redress of grievances.....nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Nice! So that said the government has NO, ZERO, NADA, fucking *"legitimate"* jurisdiction over the individual. Thanks for clarifying that, again I agree.

JeffBC -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/18/2013 11:13:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne So that said the government has NO, ZERO, NADA, fucking *"legitimate"* jurisdiction over the individual. OK, maybe I'm just a simpleton but it seems to me a government has exactly ONE obligation and that is to itself. It must obtain and retain power. That's it. This "legitimate" word you speak of? I don't see where that enters into the game of thrones. For all you (and I) don't want the US government to own our asses, it does. You don't like that? Tough because the entire fucking world is carved up by a handful of powermongers. If you want something different then you too must play the game.

OttersSwim -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/18/2013 11:38:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne Nice! So that said the government has NO, ZERO, NADA, fucking "legitimate" jurisdiction over the individual. Thanks for clarifying that, again I agree. Just to clarify. If you are over age 18 and living in this country, and are enjoying the rights of citizenship, then you are bound by the Constitution by your own tacit consent. If you have voted in any election, driven on any public road, paid taxes, obtained a drivers license, you are giving your consent to living here and tacitly abiding by the social compact of the land - State and Federal and that social compact begins with the Constitution of each.

mnottertail -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/18/2013 11:42:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail grieve all you want, the 7th circuit determined that the state has no obligation to protect you. I aint grieving. I stated that is the case at the fucking outset of your continual incoherent and untutored tinfoiling. The notion is fucking ridiculous, and it is not legal or constitutional that the government protects your individual rights. We, the People.....redress of grievances.....nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Nice! So that said the government has NO, ZERO, NADA, fucking *"legitimate"* jurisdiction over the individual. Thanks for clarifying that, again I agree. NO. It said nothing like that. In fact, it said the opposite, it said you have the right to address your grievances, and they have legitimate and comprehensive jurisdiction over the individual citizen or no. Your horseshit colored glasses fogging up on you notwithstanding.

Real0ne -> RE: "FBI" Terrorist Expert Mike German, and the state of the union. (7/20/2013 1:40:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail grieve all you want, the 7th circuit determined that the state has no obligation to protect you. I aint grieving. I stated that is the case at the fucking outset of your continual incoherent and untutored tinfoiling. The notion is fucking ridiculous, and it is not legal or constitutional that the government protects your individual rights. We, the People.....redress of grievances.....nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Nice! So that said the government has NO, ZERO, NADA, fucking *"legitimate"* jurisdiction over the individual. Thanks for clarifying that, again I agree. NO. It said nothing like that. In fact, it said the opposite, it said you have the right to address your grievances, and they have legitimate and comprehensive jurisdiction over the individual citizen or no. Your horseshit colored glasses fogging up on you notwithstanding. the courts necessity to prove its jurisdiction not withstanding in your world LMAO So fucking prove it. Lets see if you can. Prove they have and comply with all the elements of this claimed jurisdiction by any legitimate course. I have demanded this of you before and you failed. I am not getting any younger here so if you think you got a new twist you can make some hay with get on with it.

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