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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 4:09:49 PM   
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In a land of minimal government both the muslim and the brit had their own set of rights, obviously nondisclosed to each other. In this case neither muslim nor uk law would apply to both.


If you want to take up the issue of jurisdiction fine, as we DO KNOW unlike the sheeple it is NOT determined by lines on a map. However the fact still remains that the girl was not Muslim and therefore even with wishywashy jurisdiction she was in no way under Sharia or any other jurisdiction than that of the UK.

If judges keep this shit up over there they will have their own modern version of the KKK. Alot of peole there, and all across Europe are sick of immigrants committing crimes. Even Sweden, the rape rate QUINTUPLED and 80 % of the rapes are committed by Muslim inmmigrants. That's probably what another poster meant by (sarcastically) "multicultturalism is working for...........".

http://beforeitsnews.com/libertarian/2013/06/numbers-released-now-85-of-all-rapes-in-sweden-committed-by-immigrants-likely-muslims-and-n-africans-2510588.html

People are getting fucking sick of it and political correctness goes out the fucking window when you are talking people's children and yound Womenfolk. Mark my words. All the bleeding hearts may protest, but they are likely to get themselves killed as well, possibly first if they choose to get in the way.

The whole world is getting pissed off. People come and think they are going to change the place to suit them. To make it like the place they fled ? Not logical. Not hardly, not even softly.

Close the fucking borders, unless someone has some special skills. And then just give them a visa. Fuck this shit. You want to give someone a country ? Don't give them mine.

On that, I obviously agree with the Palestinians.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 4:15:45 PM   
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 4:22:27 PM   
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DomKen, no it doesn't mean yielding but that's what happens to wit President Pantload's special treatment of and disregard for the law regarding illegal aliens.
The textbook may say one thing but *reality* can be and is often quite differant!
If anyone thinks that a young Norwegian woman should be jailed for 16 months because she was raped then that's just Dubai's culture, right?

Your paranoia is showing. the President has not turned us over to Islamic terrorists or what ever other crazy shit you've heard on the radio.

As to the young woman in question, She was in Dubai and was judged by the Dubai justice system. We may not agree with it, I don't, but you'd certainly raise hell if some foreign nation demanded we let their citizen out of prison if convicted of a crime here.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 4:22:34 PM   
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.....but an example of how good it is "To respect others laws, when you are in their house" so to speak.


How is this relevant to the person in the story, who awoke to find a co-worker raping her?


Not knowing the laws, and the second class treatment given to women, where in civilized countries you have a good chance of receiving justice, this girl had no idea she was about to be charged for some crazy laws they hold, that pretty much make it impossible to prove rape. Instead, she is criminal. Messed up system if you ask me, and that's what I mean by that remark. Know the rules. I wouldn't be caught dead there. Women don't stand at chance.


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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 4:25:47 PM   
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Peon.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html

While that story is troubling it is far removed from termy's claim, as is usual for him.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 4:36:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ken. I dont agree with the Juge but he was lenient because the guy pleaded guilty (saving the girl the oredeal od giving evidence) and also didnt understand UK law.

That said, he wasnt let off scot free as he got a suspended sentence, he has also been put on the sex offenders register.



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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 5:18:59 PM   
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Peon.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html


Ta PS.

But you know what I'm going to say, don't you? "Wish the link hadn't been to an article in the Daily Mail".

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Some splendidly balanced and informed American views of the case here. :-)

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 6:45:15 PM   
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Ken. I dont agree with the Juge but he was lenient because the guy pleaded guilty (saving the girl the oredeal od giving evidence) and also didnt understand UK law.

That said, he wasnt let off scot free as he got a suspended sentence, he has also been put on the sex offenders register.

I'm still not comfortable with the suspended sentence. At least in the US the phrase "Ignorance of the law is not an excuse" is a truism.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 7:17:06 PM   
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.....but an example of how good it is "To respect others laws, when you are in their house" so to speak.


How is this relevant to the person in the story, who awoke to find a co-worker raping her?


Not knowing the laws, and the second class treatment given to women, where in civilized countries you have a good chance of receiving justice, this girl had no idea she was about to be charged for some crazy laws they hold, that pretty much make it impossible to prove rape. Instead, she is criminal. Messed up system if you ask me, and that's what I mean by that remark. Know the rules. I wouldn't be caught dead there. Women don't stand at chance.




aint that just a bitch?

Go to someone elses house and demand "civilized" rules apply! lmao

they have their own we have ours.




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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 7:19:14 PM   
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Ken. I dont agree with the Juge but he was lenient because the guy pleaded guilty (saving the girl the oredeal od giving evidence) and also didnt understand UK law.

That said, he wasnt let off scot free as he got a suspended sentence, he has also been put on the sex offenders register.

I'm still not comfortable with the suspended sentence. At least in the US the phrase "Ignorance of the law is not an excuse" is a truism.




yeh too bad it does not apply to judges, we would get to see a nice hanging every so often

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 7:21:00 PM   
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In a land of minimal government both the muslim and the brit had their own set of rights, obviously nondisclosed to each other. In this case neither muslim nor uk law would apply to both.


If you want to take up the issue of jurisdiction fine, as we DO KNOW unlike the sheeple it is NOT determined by lines on a map. However the fact still remains that the girl was not Muslim and therefore even with wishywashy jurisdiction she was in no way under Sharia or any other jurisdiction than that of the UK.

If judges keep this shit up over there they will have their own modern version of the KKK. Alot of peole there, and all across Europe are sick of immigrants committing crimes. Even Sweden, the rape rate QUINTUPLED and 80 % of the rapes are committed by Muslim inmmigrants. That's probably what another poster meant by (sarcastically) "multicultturalism is working for...........".

http://beforeitsnews.com/libertarian/2013/06/numbers-released-now-85-of-all-rapes-in-sweden-committed-by-immigrants-likely-muslims-and-n-africans-2510588.html

People are getting fucking sick of it and political correctness goes out the fucking window when you are talking people's children and yound Womenfolk. Mark my words. All the bleeding hearts may protest, but they are likely to get themselves killed as well, possibly first if they choose to get in the way.

The whole world is getting pissed off. People come and think they are going to change the place to suit them. To make it like the place they fled ? Not logical. Not hardly, not even softly.

Close the fucking borders, unless someone has some special skills. And then just give them a visa. Fuck this shit. You want to give someone a country ? Don't give them mine.

On that, I obviously agree with the Palestinians.

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multiculturalism cannot happen in a statist one shoe fits all society, no way around it that I can imagine much less see.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 7:24:12 PM   
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Laughable that you cant seem to grasp America is probably the largest multicultural project of the last 220-ish years.




and it failed, we have a one shoe fits all destroy all culture but the statist democracy LMAO

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 10:39:24 PM   
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Ken. I dont agree with the Juge but he was lenient because the guy pleaded guilty (saving the girl the oredeal od giving evidence) and also didnt understand UK law.

That said, he wasnt let off scot free as he got a suspended sentence, he has also been put on the sex offenders register.

I'm still not comfortable with the suspended sentence. At least in the US the phrase "Ignorance of the law is not an excuse" is a truism.



I'm not comfortable with the suspended sentence too, but what I understand is the judge considered him as mentally empired (probably for other reasons than being islamic) so even if 18 not to be considered the stronger part in the relationship, and considered him as minor as well.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 10:53:13 PM   
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I'm still not comfortable with the suspended sentence. At least in the US the phrase "Ignorance of the law is not an excuse" is a truism.


I agree. Either it is or it is not. If it is not, then what of the Woman in Dubai ?

What's wrong with staying the fuck home ? Norway is a wonderful place and I would actually like to go there. Even though it is technically a theocracy, from what I hear they are not too anal about it.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 11:01:44 PM   
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They want The West to be "multi-cultural" but *THEY* don't want to be "multi-cultural."

Would you happen to have any validation for this moronic tripe?


There are several instances of Muslims trying to use their "culture" to mitigate things like beatings and such. One recent incident involved one of their own who imbibed in alcohol. They beat his ass and their "culture" was used as a defense against the assault and battery charges.

If they locked up that Norwegian broad in Dubai, well then I guess people will have to familiarize themselves with the customs and laws of countries to which they emigrate, or even go for a visit.

Isn't that a peculiar notion ? That is so outdated, like the GOOD immigrants who innovated and built this country many many years ago. No welfare, no signs in their language, nothing of the sort. How the fuck did they EVER make it ?

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 11:39:00 PM   
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It's not working very well in Holland, Denmark and Sweden is it?
Oh, nor for English soldiers stationed in London.
"Multiculturalism works?"
Polite, that's laughable, just laughable!


Laughable that you cant seem to grasp America is probably the largest multicultural project of the last 220-ish years.

Are you seriously suggesting the murder of one soldier, by one radical, is indicative of Muslim society as a whole ?





But it isn't hardly one murder is it.
You've got areas in britain where sharia law is enforced - and where the queen's constables dasn't go.
I think there are plenty of indications about the nature of Muslim society as a whole. How many does it take?

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/21/2013 1:15:50 AM   
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Stay the fuck out of those countries...


I have to agree. Sadly, the only thing "unbelievable" about this story is the victim's naivety.




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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/21/2013 2:26:10 AM   
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As to the young woman in question, She was in Dubai and was judged by the Dubai justice system. We may not agree with it, I don't, but you'd certainly raise hell if some foreign nation demanded we let their citizen out of prison if convicted of a crime here.


You mean like Pollard ? Or is that different ?

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/21/2013 2:28:30 AM   
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I have to agree. Sadly, the only thing "unbelievable" about this story is the victim's naivety.


That's the "We're all the same under the skin" mantra. Makes me puke. Them people are different and they got different laws. Stay the fuck away.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/21/2013 2:31:57 AM   
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