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thezeppo -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 3:31:26 AM)
As things stand only about 10% of the gibberish Cameron spouts actually gets close to becoming a law. I'm not too stressed about this one, everyone with the inclination and know-how already knows I'm a perv lol. I'm sure I read recently that Cameron had become more popular with young adults than his competition. This should keep his momentum going (sarcasm!)

Politesub53 -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 3:33:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: Most households in the UK will have pornography blocked by their internet provider unless they choose to receive it, David Cameron has announced. In addition, the prime minister said possessing online pornography depicting rape would become illegal in England and Wales - in line with Scotland. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076 Given some of the stuff that pops up in the profiles here, will this be the end of UK participation here on Collarme, and in the forums? On a broader scale, I'm curious how the Subjects of the Crown will feel about having to specifically request access to pictures of nekkid women, and if there is concern about how that information might be used in the future. A filter isnt the same as having to "specifically request access" But why let that stop a nice bit of scaremongering. We have been here before with BDSM web sites and nothing much happened. What you will end up with is a watered down version of Daves newest idea. What Dave will end up with is a few hundred more votes come next election...Go figure.

Apocalypso -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 4:05:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 A filter isnt the same as having to "specifically request access" But why let that stop a nice bit of scaremongering. There is talk of there being an "opt-in" with I.S.Ps though, which is more than a filter. quote: We have been here before with BDSM web sites and nothing much happened. What you will end up with is a watered down version of Daves newest idea. We got the extreme porn legislation. Whether anything comes of this remains to be seen however. Apart from anything else, they haven't managed to come up with a workable technical solution to the issue of single households with multiple devices, which is kinda crucial in the modern age. Filters are even less workable. Because they'd need to be simple enough that technically illiterate adults could install and maintain them, yet somehow magically able to keep out a technically literate teenager on a mission.

PeonForHer -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 6:41:30 AM)
quote: What Dave will end up with is a few hundred more votes come next election...Go figure. . . . Mostly from little old ladies who barely know what the internet is nor how it works. Dave is banking on their believing that he really does have the control over the net that he says he does. Yep, very little will happen as a result of this latest brouhaha and even that will be ineffective, is my bet.

JeffBC -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 6:47:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr You're right it doesn't sound like a bad idea (although, I think even special browsers might not get the job done) for a start. What makes it a bad idea is that it is utterly unworkable. The old adage is "the internet was designed to route around damage". The corollary to that is that the internet sees anything opposing the free flow of data as "damage". It doesn't matter what they do with their laws. People who want porn will still get it. Kids will know how to "fix" the internet... just as they always have. So the UK govt. is going to spend lots of time and effort trying to legislate morality and all they are going to do is annoy some people and waste some money.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 6:50:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JeffBC quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr You're right it doesn't sound like a bad idea (although, I think even special browsers might not get the job done) for a start. What makes it a bad idea is that it is utterly unworkable. The old adage is "the internet was designed to route around damage". The corollary to that is that the internet sees anything opposing the free flow of data as "damage". It doesn't matter what they do with their laws. People who want porn will still get it. Kids will know how to "fix" the internet... just as they always have. So the UK govt. is going to spend lots of time and effort trying to legislate morality and all they are going to do is annoy some people and waste some money. That's kind of what I meant by special browsers not doing the job. I was addressing the freedom issue. Nothing more. Quite frankly, it's none of my business what the Brits do to themselves so, I really don't particularly care about it. I do know that there's an obsessive need for them to try to influence what goes on here so, I do have to take some notice (on the freedom issue). Victory! Winston Churchill

Real0ne -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 7:21:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: Most households in the UK will have pornography blocked by their internet provider unless they choose to receive it, David Cameron has announced. In addition, the prime minister said possessing online pornography depicting rape would become illegal in England and Wales - in line with Scotland. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076 Given some of the stuff that pops up in the profiles here, will this be the end of UK participation here on Collarme, and in the forums? On a broader scale, I'm curious how the Subjects of the Crown will feel about having to specifically request access to pictures of nekkid women, and if there is concern about how that information might be used in the future. its not even so much that, as it is that foot is getting stuck further in the door toward complete internet supervision and control by none other than big brother through its corporations giving them what they would call a justifiable reason to tap what goes through the net and monitor your moral behavior. the government never does anything unless they have 3 reasons in addition to the one they sell the public

mnottertail -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 7:23:14 AM)
They can opt in rather than opt out. I wish we had that way of doing our business. Cuz I don't need livejasmine skanks in the popup, or californiacocksucker (lives only 4.3 miles from me and wants to chat) when I am looking for my porn.

Apocalypso -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 9:19:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr I do know that there's an obsessive need for them to try to influence what goes on here so, I do have to take some notice (on the freedom issue). That's because your foreign and economic policy affect us way more than vice versa.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 9:32:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Apocalypso quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr I do know that there's an obsessive need for them to try to influence what goes on here so, I do have to take some notice (on the freedom issue). That's because your foreign and economic policy affect us way more than vice versa. I disagree with the last 5 words but that's a minor quibble. I'm, basically, an isolationist and I'd be extremely happy if we all stayed out of each others' business and stop going down the road to the New World Order/One World Government. Fuck the UN, Nikita Kruschev

RottenJohnny -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 12:22:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JeffBC What makes it a bad idea is that it is utterly unworkable. The old adage is "the internet was designed to route around damage". The corollary to that is that the internet sees anything opposing the free flow of data as "damage". It doesn't matter what they do with their laws. People who want porn will still get it. Kids will know how to "fix" the internet... just as they always have. As far as preventing people who are hellbent on finding porn, you're absolutely right. No system is going to be foolproof. But for the little old lady who just wants to shop for a new pearl necklace without getting bombed with pictures of girls with jizz all over their face, domain filtering isn't a bad idea. In affect, all you're doing is creating an electronic red light district and giving people the ability to easily avoid it if they want to. That's probably as good as it will ever get on the internet.

mnottertail -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 12:29:10 PM)
IXP sends --- OPTIN? ISP sends Yah! done.

Yachtie -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 12:34:38 PM)
They want to keep it away from kids. "Hello, parents?"[8\|]

mnottertail -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 12:36:02 PM)
And so? How you gonna put parental controls on the kids cellphone without them having the password to take it off? Hello yourself.

Yachtie -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 12:39:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail And so? How you gonna put parental controls on the kids cellphone without them having the password to take it off? Hello yourself. Do kids need cell phones with internet access or even texting? What happened to just plain old voice communication phones for kids? The problem isn't the phones, it's the parents.

mnottertail -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 12:43:18 PM)
I dont think so. I think it is the shitbreathers that are after a buck and have no moral turpitude. And then there is the 78 year old church of england lady whos parents are dead that cant quite be slotted into the nutsucker rhetoric, who by default has to see that, when looking for scone recipes.

Yachtie -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 12:55:38 PM)
This - Mr Cameron warned in a speech that access to online pornography was "corroding childhood". - I thought to be the crux of it. The old lady and the scones, well, don't many internet programs allow for filtering of adult content? I don't disagree with you as I think it's a no-brainer.

Politesub53 -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 12:57:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie Do kids need cell phones with internet access or even texting? What happened to just plain old voice communication phones for kids? The problem isn't the phones, it's the parents. Agreed, whats wrong with Morse Code. [8\|]

mnottertail -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 12:59:19 PM)
The internet programs that allow for filtering are not all that cute or obvious. a new site opens every millesecond, the place to blanket them is at the source at the IXP-ISP. Nothing like good old capitalistic private enterprise efficiency.

Yachtie -> RE: Internet porn to be blocked by default in the UK (7/23/2013 1:02:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail The internet programs that allow for filtering are not all that cute or obvious. a new site opens every millesecond, the place to blanket them is at the source at the IXP-ISP. Nothing like good old capitalistic private enterprise efficiency. Keeps people employed[:D]

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