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ORIGINAL: BamaD

There was no question regarding my claim. In fact The only "claim" I made was that marines could have stopped it cold, to which you agreed. Have you gone to arguing with yourself now?

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Ah, no. Its only in left wing fantasies where they pretend

a). That Valeria Plame wasn't outed long before. I knew of it at least 2 years before the supposed 'outing'. Why do you think Joe wilson was suggested to go on that yellow cake mission - because his wife put him up for it.
b). That the rule for outing 'agents' applies to analysts based in DC.

you know - you don't out agents so they don't die in enemy lands. I don't think valerie plame was under any danger working in DC, do you?

Never mind the fact that the special prosecutor convicted Cheney's chief of staff for obstructing the investigation and eventually the administration tried to dump the blame on Armitage.

We all know it came straight from Cheney. And we still have no idea how many agents careers were ended because they had Brewster Jennings on their resumes and how many foreign assets were killed due to contacts with Plame and other Brewster Jennings agents.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

There was no question regarding my claim. In fact The only "claim" I made was that marines could have stopped it cold, to which you agreed. Have you gone to arguing with yourself now?

Saying the Marines "May have stopped it" isnt the same as agreeing with you. At least, not in the real world.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Saying the Marines "May have stopped it" isnt the same as agreeing with you. At least, not in the real world.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Sorry, gave you too much credit.

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JeffBC post 334: I've got way larger issues with him and it's certain that the republicans are pushing [Benghazi], rightly or wrongly, for their own nefarious motives.

That, of course, is one of the huge issues with American politics. Even if it was warranted and we could pull it off, what good would impeaching Obama do? Who's gonna replace him? Some other treasonous bastard with either a red or blue shirt. We have deep and systemic problems in our whole system. Changing the guard won't help.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Ah, no. Its only in left wing fantasies where they pretend

a). That Valeria Plame wasn't outed long before. I knew of it at least 2 years before the supposed 'outing'. Why do you think Joe wilson was suggested to go on that yellow cake mission - because his wife put him up for it.
b). That the rule for outing 'agents' applies to analysts based in DC.

you know - you don't out agents so they don't die in enemy lands. I don't think valerie plame was under any danger working in DC, do you?

Never mind the fact that the special prosecutor convicted Cheney's chief of staff for obstructing the investigation and eventually the administration tried to dump the blame on Armitage.

We all know it came straight from Cheney. And we still have no idea how many agents careers were ended because they had Brewster Jennings on their resumes and how many foreign assets were killed due to contacts with Plame and other Brewster Jennings agents.

Which is exactly the opposite of what the investigation determined.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Ah, no. Its only in left wing fantasies where they pretend

a). That Valeria Plame wasn't outed long before. I knew of it at least 2 years before the supposed 'outing'. Why do you think Joe wilson was suggested to go on that yellow cake mission - because his wife put him up for it.
b). That the rule for outing 'agents' applies to analysts based in DC.

you know - you don't out agents so they don't die in enemy lands. I don't think valerie plame was under any danger working in DC, do you?

Never mind the fact that the special prosecutor convicted Cheney's chief of staff for obstructing the investigation and eventually the administration tried to dump the blame on Armitage.

We all know it came straight from Cheney. And we still have no idea how many agents careers were ended because they had Brewster Jennings on their resumes and how many foreign assets were killed due to contacts with Plame and other Brewster Jennings agents.

Which is exactly the opposite of what the investigation determined.

Then who was Scooter protecting?

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Saying the Marines "May have stopped it" isnt the same as agreeing with you. At least, not in the real world.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Sorry, gave you too much credit.

No, you just had an English lesson on the meaning of agree.

May does not mean would. Never has, never will.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Saying the Marines "May have stopped it" isnt the same as agreeing with you. At least, not in the real world.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Sorry, gave you too much credit.

No, you just had an English lesson on the meaning of agree.

May does not mean would. Never has, never will.

Edited to fix quotes.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Ah, no. Its only in left wing fantasies where they pretend

a). That Valeria Plame wasn't outed long before. I knew of it at least 2 years before the supposed 'outing'. Why do you think Joe wilson was suggested to go on that yellow cake mission - because his wife put him up for it.
b). That the rule for outing 'agents' applies to analysts based in DC.

you know - you don't out agents so they don't die in enemy lands. I don't think valerie plame was under any danger working in DC, do you?

Never mind the fact that the special prosecutor convicted Cheney's chief of staff for obstructing the investigation and eventually the administration tried to dump the blame on Armitage.

We all know it came straight from Cheney. And we still have no idea how many agents careers were ended because they had Brewster Jennings on their resumes and how many foreign assets were killed due to contacts with Plame and other Brewster Jennings agents.

Which is exactly the opposite of what the investigation determined.

Then who was Scooter protecting?

Sorry again what they got him for was not directly related to Plame being outed by her husband.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Ah, no. Its only in left wing fantasies where they pretend

a). That Valeria Plame wasn't outed long before. I knew of it at least 2 years before the supposed 'outing'. Why do you think Joe wilson was suggested to go on that yellow cake mission - because his wife put him up for it.
b). That the rule for outing 'agents' applies to analysts based in DC.

you know - you don't out agents so they don't die in enemy lands. I don't think valerie plame was under any danger working in DC, do you?

Never mind the fact that the special prosecutor convicted Cheney's chief of staff for obstructing the investigation and eventually the administration tried to dump the blame on Armitage.

We all know it came straight from Cheney. And we still have no idea how many agents careers were ended because they had Brewster Jennings on their resumes and how many foreign assets were killed due to contacts with Plame and other Brewster Jennings agents.

Which is exactly the opposite of what the investigation determined.

Then who was Scooter protecting?

Sorry again what they got him for was not directly related to Plame being outed by her husband.

They got him for obstructing the investigation. IOW he lied to the investigators to protect someone. Now who would that be?

Just to rub in the obvious Exhibit A of the prosecution case against Scooter is a hand written note by Cheney above the NYT op ed by Wilson.
http://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/cheney15.pdf

There is also the email from Cooper to his editors at Time where he confirms that Rove also outed Plame.
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/What_Karl_Rove_and_Cheneys_chief_of_staff_told__0717.html

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Her husband had outed her long before in his book.
When you get your info from liars you are bound to be wrong.
You are aware, are you not, that she was an analyst, not an operative?

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Her husband had outed her long before in his book.
When you get your info from liars you are bound to be wrong.
You are aware, are you not, that she was an analyst, not an operative?

And what was the name of this book and on what date was it published?

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Her husband had outed her long before in his book.
When you get your info from liars you are bound to be wrong.
You are aware, are you not, that she was an analyst, not an operative?

And what was the name of this book and on what date was it published?

A politics of Truth 2004
It was no secret that she worked at Langley, and that she was an analyst, not an operative.
I did the same thing in the Air Force at NSA, so trust me, I know the difference.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Her husband had outed her long before in his book.
When you get your info from liars you are bound to be wrong.
You are aware, are you not, that she was an analyst, not an operative?

And what was the name of this book and on what date was it published?

A politics of Truth 2004
It was no secret that she worked at Langley, and that she was an analyst, not an operative.
I did the same thing in the Air Force at NSA, so trust me, I know the difference.

She was outed by Cheney and Rove in 2003 which is before 2004 so she was not outed by her husband.

She was an operative. She had a cover job and had traveled overseas extensively. At the time of her outing she claimed to work for Brewster Jennings and Associates which had an address not at Langley.

Just because she did not do sabotage does not mean she did not have a protected identity as evidenced by the cover job.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

May is much better than not trying which is what the administration did.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Took that to mean that they weren't there.
They would have been outnumber by no more than three to one, no if about it they would have kicked ass and taken names.
Before you display the depth of your knowledge think about this.
If 4 guys with handguns could hold them off for 8 hours what would 50 marines do.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

May is much better than not trying which is what the administration did.

Its still not me agreeing with you, which was your earlier claim. [8|]

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Took that to mean that they weren't there.
They would have been outnumber by no more than three to one, no if about it they would have kicked ass and taken names.
Before you display the depth of your knowledge think about this.
If 4 guys with handguns could hold them off for 8 hours what would 50 marines do.

What four guys where ?