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RE: names and capital letters?? - 4/8/2004 12:44:33 AM   
ShadeDiva


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ORIGINAL: sub4hire
We conduct ourselves in the same way in chat rooms. I don't frequent them. I think I did the collar me one twice. Idiots and more idiots. It just isn't worth the frustration if you ask me. Why should I waste my time on people not willing to learn or listen? Close minded people.

Well they aren;t all like that, for one thing. And I'd iggy anyone before they got to the point to affect me enough to annoy or bother me. lol.

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ORIGINAL: sub4hire
I would'nt go into the whole scenerio you did.


Nor would I now. That was a long time ago, some 6-7 years ago, lol, and I was brand new to the main online world. I've done a TON of growing over the course of those years, *chortle*

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ORIGINAL: sub4hire
I would be banned.

I was. *chuckle*


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ORIGINAL: sub4hire
To me people who ban are not Dominants in the first place.

Then you would not consider me dominant *smile*. I've banned folks and I'll do it again, if they are being malicious and negative and only trying to cause trouble, I have *no* issue banning them from my presence, in one form or another. In fact I guess I believe the exact opposite as you do - I feel a dominant should have enough self control to choose what they allow into their world, or what energy they surrounds them. Actually I really believe that is true of any mature adult.

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ORIGINAL: sub4hire
How are my questions making them so uncomfortable? Are they not willing to listen or teach people?

Well being dominant doesn't make someone *perfect* by default, *grin*. There are indeed close minded dominants, and even submissives out there - it doesn't change their power identification, or what power dynamic they prefer to be in. Nor does it automatically nominate them to be a "teacher" to every single person that comes into their vision and demands it. It is their choice to teach or not, and their right to make that choice. Just as it is their right and choice to conform to what I find are ridiculous rules. hehe

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ORIGINAL: sub4hire
If not, then they are not Dominant.


Guess it's obvious I'd disagree with that concept by the above reply. For me it simply means I don't agree with them and find their all important rule to be superfluous and downright silly - i.e. that I am not compatible with their mind set.

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ORIGINAL: sub4hire
If they cannot control their anger, how are they ever going to control it in real life? If they are so weak they have to block me. Well that is showing they don't have the courage to Dominate someone like me anyway. They never could.


I see that same comment made all the time by the type of folks that walk into chat rooms *just* to cause strife and drama and be malicious. Blocking or ignoring someone doesn't automatically equate anger or loss of control over one's emotions, you know.

Personally I deem it as culling my chat experience so that ALL negative inflow is cut off and allowing only the positive things to surround me. If someone is being negative and rude, ~zap! they are gone from my view. <shrug> No anger or emotion in it really - it is done quickly and without a pause. As far as I am concerned, I am not online to fight battles really, but to have a pleasant experience - and if that means blocking people *trying* actively to be a nuisiance, so be it. Folks like that are only seeking attention, ANY kind of attention, and I refuse to feed those beasties. Starve the beasties and they go looking somewhere else for someone else to feed them.

I think those that HAVE to respond to insults, jibs, and taunts are the ones that lost control. They are being manipulated by someone that is coming into that space to say inflammatory things, JUST to spark someone off and feed them which attention, all they are looking for is a reaction - ANY reaction. The first thing they say once someone says they've iggied them is that they are a coward, for only cowards have to iggy them, a *real* dominant wouldn't iggy them, on no, a *real* dominant woudl fight with them, yeah! And I guess I simply disagree. I am not threatened by someone being insulting, after all it's just online, lol, but why have negative crap in my view at all, when I have the ability to control my environment as I wish and create the kind of space I'd prefer to be in by gagging the rude beasties?

Seems to me if I have a way to control what I surround myself with and I don't take that path, but instead let someone goad me into reacting, and helping them create the icky atmosphere they are trying for, and then adding myself into the very problem by engaging with such beasties - well who is dominating who there? I certainly don't see those that choose to sling insults back as being in control, lol. Not at all.

I guess I just view deciding they have no real vested interest in engaging their energy, effort and time in a pointless battle, and choosing a peaceful serene route as being a strength, a clam, quiet strength, and not as a weakness.

And I don't see why them wishing to block someone even would imply they would be or ever were at any point even remotely insterested in controlling or dominating the person they are blocking. Seems to me they are being pretty clear they are sending the message they simply aren't interested at that point - so I am unclear why the thought of them being unable to dominate you or ever being capable even enters the picture there. They are pretty much in essence saying they don't find you compatible, and since they'd need to be interested in dominating someone in order for them to have a shot at doing so since it is a two way street - your view of them not having the courage or ability to dominate you seems well, kinda moot. They've already kinda drawn that line in the sand by blocking you before you were able to deem them to be too cowardly/weak to be worth your submission in that sense, didn't they? Or am I missing something there?

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ORIGINAL: sub4hire
The fact is I respect several people here on the message boards already. Do they know it yet? Probably not, some do. We have'nt even met in person. Would they get my respect, yes they would.


That's cool. Some awfully nice folks here it seems like, I'd have to agree.

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ORIGINAL: sub4hire
The bottom line here is this is a topic that will be debated long after we are dead and gone. Thus is life.


Eh not really a debate to me, lol. If one can't tell when someone is doing it in real life or not, then it seems pretty ridiculous to me and merely an online convention that holds no real value to me. When I find myself in a space that prefers that - I willingly make myself scarce as it simply isn't a compatible space for me to be in. It's their right to have a space they do things a certain way in, and if I don't like it, well I don't have to choose to enter it once I know that's the accepted way things are done in that space. That's just basic courtesy to me - I don't need to impose my views on them, I can find a space where folks of like minds gather, and just focus on that instead.

There's more than enough room for everyone and all their various POVs, and variety is a GOOD thing. hehe

~ShadeDiva

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RE: names and capital letters?? - 4/8/2004 8:02:06 AM   
MistressDREAD


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I enjoy practicing My Humiliation KINK in the chat rooms and am ALWAYS looking for in a kurt manner Those whom will feed this KINK with like exchange. Of course this ALWAYS flips the bellys of those * tender souls whom are a sumtimsie Lifestyler or one whom is a closet person and is shocked by seeing ANYTHING concerning the LIFESTYLE that is not what they are a part of and ummm well We are ALTERNATE in OUR practices and are suppose to be TOLERANT and UNDERSTANDING of ALL parts of the ALTERNATE LIFESTYLE and to either be a part of it in the chat and accept its practice alone with Our Own kinks or simply as Sis said click the iggie button so you personally if do not like to be a part of the KINK being presented ignore it completly. In many CHATS I see here in COLLARME many with in them are sugar coated giggly vanilla type style chat talks rooms that can be found in anyoone of the thousands of servers and being this is a site that spacifically addresses OUR LIFESTYLE KINKS I beleive should be DIFFERANT and ALTERNATE in its stance and stand as WE ALL WHOM PRACTICE ALTERNATE LIFESTYLE do and be OUTSIDE the bubble. ~smiles~ My Opinion ( NO ONE GETS BOOTED AND BANNED FROM CHAT ROOMS MORE THEN I DO LOL!)
We All get off by different Things!





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RE: names and capital letters?? - 4/8/2004 10:58:54 AM   
sub4hire


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ShadeDiva,

You misunderstood what I was saying. I’d quote it but it’s getting quite long. I don’t see any reason to take up so much bandwidth.

I usually tell new people I meet. I’m somewhat of a deep thinking. People could say its my job to solve others problems. I’m incredibly good at it. Because I think the way others don’t always.
In being a deep thinker sometimes I don’t explain myself fully when talking.
Especially on the net. Typing takes up so much time. You see threads here people not spell checking and such. I’m too lazy to even do that. So if you get a typo you get a typo.
I could easily write a 5000-word dissertation.

With that being said I clearly did not explain myself correctly in my response to you.

What I was trying to say…was. What about the people who go to chat rooms to chat?
Since chatting is in the name of the chat room. One would imagine you could go there to chat. Not to be ridiculed just because you aren’t in their little group. I wasn’t referring to the people who intentionally go just to start problems.
That is basically the whole essence of what I was saying. People who cannot even carry on a simple conversation with another without feeling they need to block a person.

Not the morons that inhabit chat rooms.


Also, Dread you don’t know how ecstatic you’ve made me to know I don’t live in your little world.

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RE: names and capital letters?? - 4/8/2004 12:19:40 PM   
MistressDREAD


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HA!
you never would sub for
I do not have subs in My world
nor would I ever hire such! LOL.
(hands gloria a red gag.) Why
talk about using up bandwidth,
action speaks louder then words.
It takes a moron to know one I say!
~smiles~





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RE: names and capital letters?? - 4/8/2004 12:32:56 PM   
EStrict


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quote:

ORIGINAL: knees2you
Estrict, i like You responses, it's what keeps me coming back~ but it was what i was taught~


::Laughing:: Hey, I haven't even responded to this string yet! I was gone a few days. I think you meant Estring. (Sorry Sir, the picture still isn't stopping them from confusing us!). My own thoughts on the matter are simple. I follow basic English guidelines Knees. If it is a person's *name* I capitalize it. It's not an issue of dominance or submission. If someone insists on every pronoun dealing with them be capitalized, I tend to wonder why they have so little self confidence that they need to made to feel special to reinforce their own lifestyle.

You asked Gloria if she would refuse her dominant if he told her to do that. I know that I would not have sought a relationship with my master if I was not sure of his own self confidence and know that we do have like thoughts in things. Even more importantly, I could have never sought a relationship with someone who didn't respect me as a person. If Master (capitalized because it is the *name* I am calling him) told me I *had* to cap every pronoun when speaking of a dominant, I would do so. *But*, I would as many ways as possible to just avoid using the rule. For example, I wouldn't reply directly to a dominant, I would make all posts general.

Why? Because the other thing Master has always reinforced in me is it is my place to do as he wishes, but not to be a *yes* girl. He enjoys my mind and the way I debate. And I would know if he did tell me to do something that is just poor English it would be just to prove a point (that he could), and he would not keep it up as he finds it as stupid as I do.

Sandy

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RE: names and capital letters?? - 4/8/2004 5:59:40 PM   
sub4hire


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressDREAD

HA!
you never would sub for
I do not have subs in My world
nor would I ever hire such! LOL.
(hands gloria a red gag.) Why
talk about using up bandwidth,
action speaks louder then words.
It takes a moron to know one I say!
~smiles~






Yet another quote from Dread,

American elitists are convinced that they are running their own lives quite well, whereas the idiots around are screwing up theirs

End quote

Boy is'nt that calling the kettle black?

I'm done lowering myself to your level. You've got it all to yourself again.

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RE: names and capital letters?? - 4/8/2004 11:46:03 PM   
MisPandora


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If you believe everything you read or you live solely online, perhaps.

However, how in the world are you going to capitalize or uncapitalize your living? Should you not know who you are from within, as a dominant or a submissive?


Pandora
Ms Philadelphia Leather 2004

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