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RE: Race Play - 6/29/2006 6:42:57 PM   
LokisBrat


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ORIGINAL: LiliesDoGrow

It's the German side of me LokisBrat. Just  can't play nice with others.


My mother and I are the only two on her side of the family that ever stepped foot out of the motherland (germany), so I understand not wanting to play nicely

LOKI


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RE: Race Play - 6/29/2006 6:43:13 PM   
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David,

All fantasies/desires are valid. As long as they are safe, sane and consentual. There is nothing wrong or shameful about what you wish to experience. My reparation comment was tongue in cheek. Your counterpart will out there somewhere. She will guide you along your path allowing you to experience your desires. You seem to be very open and honest and that goes a long way.

The best of luck to you.

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RE: Race Play - 6/29/2006 6:46:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DUmber

Thank You all for the replies, what a wonderful welcome to these boards.

I did not intend to make this a political or moral post about Reparations, although I do have strong feelings they are owed and would be happy to share my feelings privately

I also agree that any masochistic desires are somewhat abnormal according to the professionals. I do feel I fit the description of masochist for the most part. I enjoy pain, suffering and get pleasure from servitude but my enjoyment is not always sexual. I suffer from erectile dysfunction. But yes I do get satisfaction from my actions.

I was born submissive and masochistic and have tried to understand it my entire life. These types of open disscusions often help. But again when race enters the equation the dynamics seem to change.

I also agree that this type of play can cross some lines and open up the possibility for a more serious abuse.

The moniker is the first initial last name...David Umber

Thank You again for the replies.




Well that makes it a bit different...
I just didnt want you to get into BDSM for the wrong reason I ment nothing by my post other then consern.. you should have clerafied all the from the begining because you dont make it sound like a kink. I wish you luck

-enigma-

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RE: Race Play - 6/29/2006 6:49:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Driver1961

Hypothesise, then stir, stir, stir, stir, stir, stir, stir, mix well and look at the result.

Did you count off the stirring!

I like how we are all in the One Mixing Bowl.

Laughs to all.
So people are so touchy about clinging to their hypothesises.  I like your immediate concern for safety issues enigmabrat. You approach speaks volumes.

DUmber, thanks for the clarification of where your headspace is. 


speaks volumes about what... was there something wrong with my approach?? :(

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RE: Race Play - 6/29/2006 6:50:02 PM   
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Ich mag sie irgendwie, LokisBrat.

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RE: Race Play - 6/29/2006 7:08:00 PM   
LokisBrat


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LiliesDoGrow

Ich mag sie irgendwie, LokisBrat.


Thanks..................I'm thinking I like you anyway too!

LOKI


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RE: Race Play - 6/29/2006 7:13:10 PM   
NeedToUseYou


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Just send my,---- I mean  me  your money, I'll make sure it gets to appropriate dommes.

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RE: Race Play - 6/29/2006 7:52:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: zenofeller

sending kinky people to the psychs is really disgusting in my eyes. i'm sure they think they could make each and every one of us better. a lot better. shudder.


Hey zeno... and all!

Amen to that!
There are a lot of fine therapists in the world,
and wholehelluvalotmore who are incompetent, useless or worse.

Back 20 years ago in the stone ages
when I was a therapist, I had the illusion I could "fix" people.

I've only been on this forum a week,
and already I think it's one of the healthiest corners of the 'net.

The guy thinks he wants to submit to a black woman,
... and then he gives us his "logical mind" reason.
None of us here are kinky because of our "logical mind" reasons...
..... but it's my opinion it all comes from the dark matter hidden in our souls.

I don't know the guy,
but I suspect he'll do better chatting here
... AND finding some nice black woman to whup him real good
than take the long-shot-chance of finding a decent therapist to "fix" him.

.... just one frisky Old Goat's opinion....

DD

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RE: Race Play - 6/29/2006 8:02:16 PM   
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Finishes buttoning up the grey jacket......tightens the chinstrap on the steel pot helmet with the ss badge emblazoned on the sides----dusts off his jackboots and admires the shine-just before he starts kicking the hell out of some poor minority creature....mwhahahahahaaaa

Sure,race play is just fine and dandy-so long as it's a white you do it to!

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RE: Race Play - 6/29/2006 8:06:17 PM   
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now that's a good point dubious. the op's chances of finding a decent dom of any color desired are significantly better than his chances of finding a therapist that won't do damage.

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RE: Race Play - 6/30/2006 2:07:13 AM   
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dumber
 
I am a black woman also a domme. I understand what you going through many of
the white submissive who come to me are in fact feeling the same thing as you it is not strange at all. but remember if you just want a balc domme just go for one explain to her after you know her what you feeling are and hopefully she will understand, many of the white males are asking me for the samething they wish to be my white slave, i think this is to help for what they think is still they fault which it si not at all. Your feeling so many different things now take time to know what you want and do it slow you do not have to pay anyone money but just give this you gift of submissiion, and you heart. I wish you luck and you will find that domme you wish for
 
take care
mons

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RE: Race Play - 6/30/2006 2:20:12 AM   
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I am sure there is genuine "race play" happening "out there", but it also occurred (to me) that for some folk who might be either less experienced or feel a little "dirty" (initially) exploring bdsm - that "race play" in the context you describe it might just "legitimize" doing bdsm activities more than not having that scenario to play out. I actually am just tossing that out, and it sounds a little too "Fruedian" even to me - it is not that serious a comment because - I have no idea if you are a relative "newbie" or not.

Personally, I am white and have fantasized about being black and having a white "Master" - I just think race play could be construed as very, very "hot" (and have an active imagination) - and also realize some probably find it offensive (hopefully, those people won't write in an _itch about the topic) - nobody who hates the idea would ever have to do it, right?

I also realize that because I am white I haven't probably had to put up with even 20%, of the _rap that some black people have had to deal with (so, no offense - to anyone intended). Good luck finding what you're looking for.

-Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 6/30/2006 2:22:31 AM >


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RE: Race Play - 6/30/2006 6:18:43 AM   
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