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Joint Statement on Syria - 9/6/2013 8:18:41 AM   
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For Immediate Release September 06, 2013
Joint Statement on Syria

The Leaders and Representatives of Australia, Canada, France, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia, Spain, Turkey, the United Kingdom and the United States of America made the following statement on the margins of the Group of 20 Nations Leader’s Meeting in Saint Petersburg, Russia:

The international norm against the use of chemical weapons is longstanding and universal. The use of chemical weapons anywhere diminishes the security of people everywhere. Left unchallenged, it increases the risk of further use and proliferation of these weapons.

We condemn in the strongest terms the horrific chemical weapons attack in the suburbs of Damascus on August 21st that claimed the lives of so many men, women, and children. The evidence clearly points to the Syrian government being responsible for the attack, which is part of a pattern of chemical weapons use by the regime.

We call for a strong international response to this grave violation of the world’s rules and conscience that will send a clear message that this kind of atrocity can never be repeated. Those who perpetrated these crimes must be held accountable.

Signatories have consistently supported a strong UN Security Council Resolution, given the Security Council's responsibilities to lead the international response, but recognize that the Council remains paralyzed as it has been for two and a half years. The world cannot wait for endless failed processes that can only lead to increased suffering in Syria and regional instability. We support efforts undertaken by the United States and other countries to reinforce the prohibition on the use of chemical weapons.

We commit to supporting longer term international efforts, including through the United Nations, to address the enduring security challenge posed by Syria’s chemical weapons stockpiles. Signatories have also called for the UN fact finding mission to present its results as soon as possible, and for the Security Council to act accordingly.

We condemn in the strongest terms all human rights violations in Syria on all sides. More than 100,000 people have been killed in the conflict, more than 2 million people have become refugees, and approximately 5 million are internally displaced. Recognizing that Syria’s conflict has no military solution, we reaffirm our commitment to seek a peaceful political settlement through full implementation of the 2012 Geneva Communique. We are committed to a political solution which will result in a united, inclusive and democratic Syria.

We have contributed generously to the latest United Nations (UN) and ICRC appeals for humanitarian assistance and will continue to provide support to address the growing humanitarian needs in Syria and their impact on regional countries. We welcome the contributions announced at the meeting of donor countries on the margins of the G20. We call upon all parties to allow humanitarian actors safe and unhindered access to those in need.

European signatories will continue to engage in promoting a common European position.

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RE: Joint Statement on Syria - 9/6/2013 8:41:48 AM   
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FR,

This agreement still doesn't grant him the authority to intervene in a sovereign country, IMO.

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RE: Joint Statement on Syria - 9/6/2013 8:46:04 AM   
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What grants him the authority to intervene in a sovereign country, and it ain't nothing about congress, we can see the NSA, and our CIA and our DIA and many other bureaus of our government are intervening in sovereign countries, and have been since the 1880s or better, continuously.

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RE: Joint Statement on Syria - 9/6/2013 8:48:03 AM   
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What grants him the authority to intervene in a sovereign country, and it ain't nothing about congress, we can see the NSA, and our CIA and our DIA and many other bureaus of our government are intervening in sovereign countries, and have been since the 1880s or better, continuously.


And, that doesn't make further or continued intervention right.

A UN authorization would grant him that authority, though. Or, maybe an attack on the US. You know, the stuff spelled out in the US Constitution and the War Powers Act?


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RE: Joint Statement on Syria - 9/6/2013 8:50:10 AM   
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please cite the constitution and the war powers act with THAT language, cuz it don't exist.

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RE: Joint Statement on Syria - 9/6/2013 8:50:24 AM   
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he has taken it to congress, if they say no and I hope they do...... do you think he will go in just on his own arrogance?

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RE: Joint Statement on Syria - 9/6/2013 8:57:58 AM   
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he has taken it to congress, if they say no and I hope they do...... do you think he will go in just on his own arrogance?


I don't know, Lucy. I certainly join you in hoping Congress doesn't grant him the authority. I don't think he's as arrogant as rightwing pundits paint him, but I hope he's not so arrogant to ignore Congress.


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RE: Joint Statement on Syria - 9/6/2013 9:13:02 AM   
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he has taken it to congress, if they say no and I hope they do...... do you think he will go in just on his own arrogance?



i hope they say no for your sake ... (& your new avatar which is WOW where did you find those fine asses?)
but things here on the ground .. i mean the tension here is OK with me the shelling is going less & less & the booming is going less & less every day ... hopefully he will stop at some points but,

the existence of those ships in the Mediterranean even if they just stood there & did not fire & the tension is making him nervous & don't know what to do..
which is good news for me & others who are getting the crossfire .. you know ..

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RE: Joint Statement on Syria - 9/6/2013 9:46:20 AM   
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quote:

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he has taken it to congress, if they say no and I hope they do...... do you think he will go in just on his own arrogance?



i hope they say no for your sake ... (& your new avatar which is WOW where did you find those fine asses?)
but things here on the ground .. i mean the tension here is OK with me the shelling is going less & less & the booming is going less & less every day ... hopefully he will stop at some points but,

the existence of those ships in the Mediterranean even if they just stood there & did not fire & the tension is making him nervous & don't know what to do..
which is good news for me & others who are getting the crossfire .. you know ..


Honey...I cant even begin to understand the horror, the anger, the fear, the displacement, the the things that you are going thru , not just in Syria, but elsewhere in the ME.
We only had to deal with a small group of terrorists in the UK and they caused enough damage, for my peace of mind. I dont know the complexities involved, I dont have an answer, I wish I did. Idealism is worse than useless in the situation.
The humanitarian in me that wants the safety of the civillians fights the sadistic desire to castrate all the greedy power hungry murdering assholes in the world
. I hope you stay safe and well my friend:)
Ill send you a couple of links to some of my favourite picture places:)


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