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slavejali -> RE: What isthe making of a a Master? What is making of a sub/slave? (7/3/2006 8:47:01 PM)

Title

Main Entry: 1ti·tle [image]http://www.m-w.com/images/audio.gif[/image]
Pronunciation: 'tI-t&l
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin titulus inscription, title
1 a obsolete : INSCRIPTION b : written material introduced into a motion picture or television program to give credits, explain an action, or represent dialogue -- usually used in plural
2 a : all the elements constituting legal ownership b : a legally just cause of exclusive possession c : the instrument (as a deed) that is evidence of a right
3 a : something that justifies or substantiates a claim b : an alleged or recognized right
4 a : a descriptive or general heading (as of a chapter in a book) b : the heading which names an act or statute c : the heading of a legal action or proceeding
5 a : the distinguishing name of a written, printed, or filmed production b : a similar distinguishing name of a musical composition or a work of art
6 : a descriptive name : APPELLATION
7 : a division of an instrument, book, or bill; especially : one larger than a section or article
8 a : an appellation of dignity, honor, distinction, or preeminence attached to a person or family by virtue of rank, office, precedent, privilege, attainment, or lands b : a person holding a title especially of nobility
9 : a written work as distinguished from a particular copy <published 25 titles last year>
10 : CHAMPIONSHIP 1 <won the batting title>

Title has a few meanings. Dont worry, I'm probably in a pedantic mood [:)]



Padriag -> RE: What isthe making of a a Master? What is making of a sub/slave? (7/3/2006 9:06:12 PM)

And none of that Jali, describes an orientation, as in a sexual orientation which was the specific context I gave in my post to explain exactly what I meant by referring to "master" as an orientation rather than a title. 



LadyHugs -> RE: What isthe making of a a Master? What is making of a sub/slave? (7/3/2006 9:11:13 PM)

Dear TNstepsout, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In saying 'true Master' this and that often provokes a debate as to how to separate the people who toss it about as a red cape for a seizure of attention and those who are carrying the title of Master, as a recognition of another, such as a slave acknowledgment of a Master, or a peer group and or community, et. al.
 
In my mind's eye, to which might be considered; is that I am not carrying the title of Lady for the mere fact as a 'title' and or 'position' but, rather a statement of behavior.  Having ownership of slaves, those slaves have given me a title of their status with me however,
I do not shove my status as a Master, Mistress, Lady or such down other's throats or flaunt my status as to 'impress.'  This can also apply to those who identify as slave and or any title.
 
If I am to understand your 'spirit of intent,' I do read that a Master has no need to state they are one as, their behavior alone speaks of a Master without any support of self promotion and or much like an ad campaign to keep one in constant view to the point of distraction.  A Master's behavior alone with consistancy creates continuity by fact rather than statement alone.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 
 



LadyHugs -> RE: What isthe making of a a Master? What is making of a sub/slave? (7/3/2006 10:29:35 PM)

Dear CrappyDom,
 
Here in your own words.  Others can search independently.
 
You wrote;
 
Lady Hugs,

I at least recognize when I am being a pompous ass and admit it, you however put out a CD.

I offer my advice up as hard won PERSONAL experience; you wrap yourself in the various cloaks of "old days" bullshit.  I smelled it the first time you posted but you hadn't really laid yourself out where I could expose your game.

I am not attacking ANY group and you know it, I am attacking YOU and the game YOU play. 



quote:

 What personal experience, knowledge, information, skills that I earned first hand is mine.  It is mine to share, mine to keep and that is my right, regardless of any one and or many demand it.  (My words where what you quoted)...
 
 
The proof that you have indeed "attacked" me as a person is evident and you published it openly. 
 
You write; "...Hugs,

As usual, your grasp of things is shallow at best.  I did not attack the way gorians do things, nor their right to do them.  I just mocked their self-proclaimed ownership of things like being the only warriors/brave/noble/what have you. 

I poke fun at those who take themselves too seriously and I think you are their queen on CM.  I have pointed out where I believe you are wrong, pompous, even idiotic, but I have never attacked you as a person.  Your posts are chock full of “the one true way” crap and I point that out.  You constantly make claims of “how it was done” that are at best myopic and at worst brazen bs and I point that out.

In a thread where you spoke of your vast experience dealing with groups I asked you the size of those groups before which you lectured and it turns out you were talking about groups with 15 members of which only a handful (as if 15 isn’t a handful already) showed up to your lectures.  Upon this vast molehill of experience you create a CD with your wisdom.

If I laugh and poke fun at that claim it doesn’t mean I am attacking you.  If I said you were a doo doo head, that would be attacking you.  If I said the better part of you dribbled down your mother’s leg, that would be attacking you but I have not and would not stoop to that level.

Remember, it wasn’t I that in a thread about high protocol offered the tidbit of wisdom to reheat TV dinners and put them on real plates and serve them to unsuspecting guests as part of your formal dinner idea.

As for being unkind, you have no idea how kind to you I have been,

Most sincerely,
Michael

 
I shall not see your attempt to sway from the use of "poking fun, mockery and other words" to decrease the impact of the associated words of ridicule, disrespect, distain to which seems openly to be your intent, as it is directed to those on CM.
 
Justifying your behavior, through mockery of the amount of individuals in established support and education groups, would be similar in disrespecting minorities.  Conveniently,
you omitted the percentage of attending.  Justifying your behavior through mocking the fact that I save my written works to a CD-Rom, to which you have never seen, read and such--just shows so much.  I'm not the first person to save things to a disk and Vi Johnson was glad to take it.  And, for the placing a TV dinner onto a different plate, is not all that different from what chefs do behind the scenes at some of the high end hotels.  And, for someone who does not do well in cooking, it was a suggested option--not a command.
 
As to being kind to me-- I appreciate the effort and will look forward to more improvements and broader reach towards one and all.  Intended or not, no person deserves to feel like 'road kill' after reading your words, thus I petition the compassionate side of your nature, to consider those of a kind and gentle nature.
 
Respectfully submitted,
Lady Hugs
 
 
 
 



MistressDREAD -> RE: What isthe making of a a Master? What is making of a sub/slave? (7/4/2006 6:41:27 AM)

Enters the Masters area with permission. * kirtsies * ThankYou for letting Me say My ARROGANT opinion.
quote:

Old Guard was around a bit before the mid-60's I'm sure.... though I don't know why
Goreans wouldn't be welcome. Old Guard was a very highly structured and protocol
oriented enviroment, from what I've heard..

Actually Old Guards been around way longer then the 60's however this is the lenth  its
been in the USA. Old Guard and Perverse Lifestyls have been around in other countrys
for thousands of years befor, and history of such is written fact that can be researched.
It is also the history of such civilizations that John Norman based the Gorean books off
of along with His Sci Fi twirl of things.You can read His side notes in His creating of
The books in the library of his college he worked.
quote:

My money is still on the drag queen though, especially if a gorian says she looks fat
in that dress
. Way to funny Crappy. Id be the Gorean who said such to a drag queen too
if it were true. Course Im bluntly truthful when I speak.

quote:

but I do laugh when they thump their chests about being warriors.
Goreans come in many shapes and forms. But then Id take on any
drag queen. Course Im a evil and sneekie fighter and  um er   EX warrior.
quote:

Our behavior, attitude and "intent" is mastered through time and recognized by peers and
or the community.
And each of Us present such differently based off of the community We are a part of.
quote:

What is most important of all lass, is that you found your joy.  It matters little to me
how you achieved it and or my personal beliefs. The fact that you have discovered and found your happiness is all that matters to me as  a member of the human race.

If this were true Hugs You would not be villifying those you do not agree with your ways
and tempt to have their own ways to acheive happiness removed from this forum.
quote:

Let us stop now referring to 'true' doms/subs or 'true' masters/mistresses as to use those
terms is merely semantic vanity...isn't it ?
Actually the Alternate Lifestyle has many doors and ways and whats concidered the norm on
the one side is concidered an achevement on the other. in M/s a Master gains such a position
and title however in Gor a Person who is FREE and Dominant in nature is concidered a Master. Its not
the training in skills that this position is given but the very nature of the person themselfs.
Thats what makes the worlds of alternate living so rich and wonderful is the understanding of
such differances and tolerance towards such differances and at times both sides to one world like
to thump their chests and say their way is the only and right way. If you dont follow this way
you are nothing. Course We know that this is not the fact and each way is right for the person
who chooses what ever way they follow.
quote:

Wankers the lot.
Oh My Preist Kings Crappy, dont tell Me You have now become the socially normal person ? Gags.
And I so enjoyed looking at your facial hair! I actually agree to disagree with You at times.
But You too like hugs tend to see down one side of the road and miss the other cars passin.
quote:

As far as the Old Guard and Gorean lifetsyles and rules go, I dont have enough knowledge/desire
to know more  about them to make an opinion, but do however, as a Dominant, feel as though they
are lifestyles that should not be taken lightly for they as just as worthy as any other type of
lifestyle.
You are a good sample of a lifestyler in the know Spanks. ThankYou for Your opinion.
quote:

I am not attacking ANY group and you know it, I am attacking YOU and the game YOU play.
Hehehehehe I love games..........  

quote:

What isthe making of a a Master? What is making of a sub/slave?
My answer to this celticfirelite is it depends on what information you want to learn and know.
Is it the part of the alternate lifestyle where M/s is used? or is it alone the lines of Gor ?
Or do you seek this information for purley a vanillla application that has nothing to do with
alternate lifestyles? Why would you want to know what makes these words and the application of them?
To open up this can of worms in the Masters Forum without explaining yourself better is well
an attention getter. Are you in need of attention or do you honestly desire to learn ? If so
better define your questions in ways that do not make the board turn into a flame of differing
cultures with in Our alternate lifestyles, then you might learn more. Goes down the line of pissers
and shitters and spitters and slaps all Their hands with a ruler.
ThankYou Masters for letting Me make comment into Your side of the Boards, turns and takes My leave.......



TNstepsout -> RE: What isthe making of a a Master? What is making of a sub/slave? (7/4/2006 7:18:43 AM)

OK, even though it said I was responding to you, I really meant to respond to the OP. I was referring specifically to the term "Master" being used as described by the OP. Using the term "Master" within a relationship or household is different. Perhaps my opinion spawns from my days of chasing spirituality along the New Age path and running into so many "self-realized Masters". I generally found them to have "realized" very little, and can't say I've found the "Masters" I've encountered here to be much different.




CrappyDom -> RE: What isthe making of a a Master? What is making of a sub/slave? (7/4/2006 7:25:29 AM)

quote:

I offer my advice up as hard won PERSONAL experience; you wrap yourself in the various cloaks of "old days" bullshit.  I smelled it the first time you posted but you hadn't really laid yourself out where I could expose your game.


Well, seems like my above statement is still true.



ModeratorEleven -> RE: What isthe making of a a Master? What is making of a sub/slave? (7/4/2006 8:44:10 AM)

That's about enough.  Take the personal nonsense to email or drop it.

XI



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