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KYsissy -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 3:19:06 PM)

Ok, some of you had to mention bacon. If you want to treat yourself or friends and family over the holidays coming soon. Look up Fathers Hams and order some hickory smoked bacon. OMFG is it good. Old timey hand rubbed smokehouse bacon. It isnt cheap, but it is definitely worth it. I think this is the type of bacon that caused the 2 strip rule to come into play.

PS. I have no association with Fathers Hams. I Just know a good product.
It ruined grocery store bacon for me.




SweetAmber32 -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 3:22:46 PM)

Actually, in some cases it can literally happen over night. I went to bed one night a size 16. Woke up the next day and was getting dressed for work. Couldn't zip my pants, couldn't button the last few bottoms on my blouse on the bottom. Luckily, my job required an apron and was able to cover my safety pinned pants and blouse. After work I went shopping for new clothes, I was fitting a size 18. And had about 20lbs extra. Doctors did tests and found no tumors. I was a medical mystery. Then I moved to Oregon. I was a caregiver in an Alzheimer's/Dementia facility, and believe you me, I was too busy keeping up with residents and too tired too eat overly much, but yet in one month, gained 40 lbs. Again a mystery. But the last seven years, even with healthy eating and exercise, weight kept coming on. But now I finally found out why, PCOS, Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome. I've been put on meds prescribed for this and now my weight is finally dropping. And this is something that I started showing symptoms of when I was a kid, with a little weight gain then. Momma took me to the Doc. All he said is, "it's a little baby fat she'll loose eventually. Don't worry about it." Idiot Doctor. :-/




ResidentSadist -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 3:24:23 PM)

I think all trolls should be fed to the pigs so we can have better bacon don't you? However, according to your definitions, I break the rules of being fat. What' sup with that?

1. I am very attractive.
2. I exercise great disciplined.
3. I am healthy as a horse.
4. My life isn't difficult and my weight has nothing to do with the fact I lead an easy and rewarding life.
5. I am in my 50s and my hormone levels have everything to do with my age not my weight. I am energetic and happy.
6. <in the voice of the Dos Equis guy> I don't always like to work, but when I do, I make over $200/an hour.




kalikshama -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 3:29:20 PM)

Thanks for the link! I wonder how many people who think of themselves as "overweight" are actually "obese," and therefore not in the "overweight people live the longest" category.

http://healthland.time.com/2013/01/02/being-overweight-is-linked-to-lower-risk-of-mortality/

...underweight defined as BMI less than 18.5, normal weight being BMI between 18.5 and 25, overweight being BMI between 25 and 30, and obese as BMI of over 30. Men or women who are 5’4″ would have “normal” BMI if they weighed between 108 and 145 pounds, for example, and overweight if they weighed 146 to 174 pounds, and obese if weighed more than that.

...interpreting the results may be confusing, since the names of the WHO “normal” and “overweight” categories don’t necessarily correspond to commonly held perceptions. Today, roughly 33% of U.S. adults are clinically overweight, according to WHO standards, and an additional 36% are obese. By those standards, the average American is not clinically normal weight at all, but considered overweight. So in fact, the overweight people in the study who tend to live longest may not be fatter than most people at all. Among Americans, at least, they may actually be of average weight.




searching4mysir -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 3:30:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SweetAmber32

Hmmm. I think Karma is going to be making a date with someone. She loves mean people.
Makes me wonder too, with showing such disdain, if the only women available to him are us fatties? Which means, that the women he desires are kicking him to the curb, maybe? Hmmmm, maybe your attitude is turning women off?




My guess is even the fat chicks turn him down and it pisses him off. It has to be them, not him.




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 3:36:02 PM)

Fast reply

I think he just wanted attention. He got it.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 3:36:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

[image]http://www.lovelesscafe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/BaconApplePieFinal-300x300.jpg[/image]

Only the the chefs at the Loveless Cafe would think to replace a traditional pie dough lattice with crispy bacon. The result is an absolute sweet and salty miracle that is sure to have your tastebuds singing the “Hallelujah” chorus. Want to recreate this dish at home? Here’s how to do it.

http://www.lovelesscafe.com/recipes/bacon-apple-pie/


I had dinner at the loveless cafe a few months ago. The line was - an hour wait? But my friend had flown in from Philly, and I had flown in from Asia, and we were not budging. We ended up getting our dinner "to go" and went outside and ate it at a picnic table they have there on the grounds. It was a heart-warming experience. Reminded me of my childhood. Lightning bugs, laughter, and blueberry cobbler! One of my fondest memories of Tennessee!

Thank you for the walk down memory lane.




CatBBW -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 3:42:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Thanks for the link! I wonder how many people who think of themselves as "overweight" are actually "obese," and therefore not in the "overweight people live the longest" category.

http://healthland.time.com/2013/01/02/being-overweight-is-linked-to-lower-risk-of-mortality/

...underweight defined as BMI less than 18.5, normal weight being BMI between 18.5 and 25, overweight being BMI between 25 and 30, and obese as BMI of over 30. Men or women who are 5’4″ would have “normal” BMI if they weighed between 108 and 145 pounds, for example, and overweight if they weighed 146 to 174 pounds, and obese if weighed more than that.

...interpreting the results may be confusing, since the names of the WHO “normal” and “overweight” categories don’t necessarily correspond to commonly held perceptions. Today, roughly 33% of U.S. adults are clinically overweight, according to WHO standards, and an additional 36% are obese. By those standards, the average American is not clinically normal weight at all, but considered overweight. So in fact, the overweight people in the study who tend to live longest may not be fatter than most people at all. Among Americans, at least, they may actually be of average weight.



And this goes back to the point I made earlier - BMI was invented by an insurance company who could then put up the insurance premiums for the fatter people because "risk of early death was higher"!





KYsissy -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 3:45:34 PM)

The BMI never applied to me. Im a big guy and could stand to lose 40lbs. That would bring me to my fighting wieght of 270. I am 6'4" and The last time I weighed 270 was in my mid 20s. I lived in Chicago, i played on a softball team, a bicycle was my primary transportation and I logged 60-70 miles a week just going where i wanted to go. I was a lean mean cycling machine. But plug those numbers in a BMI calculator and i was obese. Anyone who heard i weighed 270 could not believe it.

6'4" 270 lbs is also very common in college athletes who are in primo shape. So the BMI has some flaws.




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 3:57:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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That would only be true of those over-eating a bad diet.
That doesn't necessarily mean fast food.


"Fast food" should be clearly understood as not referring to celery sticks or McDonald's salads.

And not *all* fast food is drastically fattening either!

Not overly healthy if eaten in vast quantities, definitely not.
But to make a sweeping statement that "fast food" is fattening and unhealthy is just.... well, idiotic and very blinkered.




hlen5 -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 4:00:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: everhope

oh boy!
this thread is going to get hot enough to fry bacon.




Mmmmmm.. bacon.....




hlen5 -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 4:01:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AdorkableAiley

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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2


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ORIGINAL: AdorkableAiley


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ORIGINAL: everhope

oh boy!
this thread is going to get hot enough to fry bacon.



I love how she puts a smiley face at the end as if that made it any less offensive that she suggested people who have weight issues should be put in jail.

Ailey

OP is a man.


My bad, the picture threw me... thread makes more sense now [&:]

Ailey


It doesn't, really.




hlen5 -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 4:03:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CatBBW


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ORIGINAL: everhope

oh boy!
this thread is going to get hot enough to fry bacon.




Mmmmm. Bacon.....


Get Out of my head!! I should have read a few more posts before posting (post # 50, or so).




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 4:05:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KYsissy
6'4" 270 lbs is also very common in college athletes who are in primo shape. So the BMI has some flaws.

I also read somewhere that the BMI doesn't take into account muscle tissue and assumes a total weight and that the excess is fat!
Muscle tissue is heavier than fat, so anyone with any muscle anywhere is going to throw out those BMI figures completely because they won't always make sense.

Can't find the link at the mo but I know the general BMI calculations are debunked for the average sized person. So I'd take those calculator readings with a huge pinch of salt.




hlen5 -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 4:08:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AdorkableAiley


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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

Yep - as I said, google it and be amazed.

The way I read it, it has something to do with better nutritional status if you get sick. Makes you better able to resist illness and death. Not what most people would have thought.


It's not what the doctors say.


Ailey


Doctors on average die earlier. Have you ever heard of the book, "I'm Alive and my Doctor's Dead'"? Dr Robert Lustig has plenty to say about weight and health.

ETA: To clear any confusion, Dr. Lustig didn't write the book I mentioned.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 4:38:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AaNiMaLl

Why do people get so overweight? 1. It is unattractive. 2. It makes you seem ill disciplined. 3. It is unhealthy. 4. It makes life practically difficult. 5. It is bad for hormones, energy and happiness. 6. Fat people earn less and can get into far less jobs. However, people still continue to eat, eat, eat. So I was wondering what the opinion on this is, in this online bdsm community is? Is it an obsession with physical pleasure like a drug addiction? If so should they be treated like drug addicts and put in prison :).


It's funny that you ask because, until I signed on to CM, I was skinny as hell.

I (and this is just me) got fat because I hated people like you and wanted desperately to piss people like you off.




stef -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 4:51:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

OP is a man.

Opinions vary.




kalikshama -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 5:00:59 PM)

FR,

Time for a few words from Plato:

"And we have made of ourselves living cesspools, and driven doctors to invent names for our diseases."




MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 5:16:30 PM)

There is a saying that is almost as old as the internet itself.

Don't feed the trolls.




AdorkableAiley -> RE: Fat (10/11/2013 5:19:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MalcolmNathaniel

There is a saying that is almost as old as the internet itself.

Don't feed the trolls.


That's never stopped us before!


Ailey the troll feeder




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