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Kirata -> RE: Why does Pope Francis hate Republican Jesus? (11/28/2013 4:25:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: njlauren to reduce Christianity to the creeds is like the reader's digest version of it... The creeds are maybe a page, the canonical Bible dwarfs it, and most of it is full of what Christ taught people to do, both through words and through the way he lived. Nobody is "reducing" Christianity to the creeds. The issue that arose was in regard to the tenets of the faith, and that reduces to the creeds. The things you are going on about are moral teachings, not tenets of the faith. K.

tweakabelle -> RE: Why does Pope Francis hate Republican Jesus? (12/9/2013 2:18:24 AM)
It seems that Pope Francis' statements are not going down well at FOX, the home of "fair and balanced" news coverage. In fact the folks at FOX are so disappointed and upset they have resorted to the ultimate insult to describe the Pope and their unhappiness that the Pope has chosen to act like (Shock! Horror! Gasp!) a real Christian. Yes FOX has now decreed that Francis is the "Catholic Obama", and at FOX, the insults don't come any lower than that! http://www.forwardprogressives.com/fox-news-editor-declares-war-on-pope-francis-calls-him-the-catholic-churchs-obama/

PeonForHer -> RE: Why does Pope Francis hate Republican Jesus? (12/9/2013 3:21:56 AM)
The 'Catholic Obama' . . . Oh superb. That's just priceless! [:D]

crazyml -> RE: Why does Pope Francis hate Republican Jesus? (12/9/2013 3:49:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata Still want to go with the Sermon on the Mount? Yes. Now go ask your minister or priest about it. You know, you read about these things happening. But they still take my breath away when one happens to me. Well you heard it here first, Christians. If you foolishly thought that the tenets of your faith were set forth in the Nicene and Apostolic creeds, you now have it straight from some guy on an Internet message board that you're wrong. K. Honestly, I think it would be pretty foolish to believe that the tenets of your faith were set forth in the Nicene and Apostolic creeds. They both represent the fundamental expression of belief in Christ, but neither does more than that. [ED to add...] Having seen the subsequent discussion, I'll have to admit to a teensy bit of foolishness - a not uncommon occurrence. Sure.. according to the proper definition, the creeds reflect the fundamental tenets of the Christian faith. But, in making the point, it still feels rather as if quite a lot is missing. I had understood "tenets" to act more broadly than it actually does. When talking of "tenets" I would have assumed that the ten commandments would form part of the tenets, but it seems that in a precise and literal sense they don't. To the original point that prompted the raising of the creeds... let's assume "tenets" was an imprecise choice of word, and substitute "principles". If we're talking about the basic principles of Christianity, I'd plump for the Sermon on the Mount over the creeds - as it tells us much more about what Christians should actually "do" as opposed to what they should believe.

HunterCA -> RE: Why does Pope Francis hate Republican Jesus? (12/9/2013 9:04:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: njlauren quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen The OP meant, as you clearly know, that the pope has issues with the twisted version of Christianity practiced by many on the right in this country. Well then how do you define "Right" because Christian Evangelicals from Andrew Jackson to William Jennings Bryant and into the mid 1970s (many even today) were always populists and small d democrats. In fact, were it not for the complete and total embrace of Abortion on Demand and Homosexual Marriage, many Evangelicals would still be in lock step the Big D Democrats. Not true, the reason that the evangelicals of Williams Jenning Bryan and populism went over to the republican party happened when the democrats passed the civil rights law. It wasn't abortion and homosexuality that moved evangelicals to the GOP, it was over civil rights. The Willims Jenning Bryan evangelicals were part of what HL Mencken called the "KKK branch" of the Democrats, they were based in the farm belt and down south where the KKK was strongest, and along with the anti wall street and bank mantra they also were racists as well. The civil rights movement happened before ROE and certainly long before gay rights was even a blip on the roadmap.. What happened was that the GOP, after using the southern Strategy, looked around and realized that the evangelicals represented a potent block who were seething about issues like abortion and later on gays, and the GOP at that point started with using social issues as 'wedge issues". The GOP before Reagan didn't give a crap about social issues, neither abortion nor gays were in the GOP platform until the Reagan era, but the evangelicals were already in the GOP fold long before that because of the end of Jim Crow. I love it when liberals ascribe motivation to conservatives and then string together long nonsensical arguments therefrom. With a close family member who was a senator at the time from a very southern state I'll tell you that the democrats did not pass civil rights legislation. They were brought to the table kicking and screaming. While the rest of your arguments sound good, reasonable, and certainly passionate...which makes them true to a liberal...it's all just more of the same revisionist history.

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