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RE: Can seroquil , an anti pychotic actually make peopl... - 12/11/2013 5:05:05 PM

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If you are truly feeling suicidal then give in and go get straightened up and get meds adjusted and changed in a controlled atmosphere so that you can have an idea as to the likely hood of them working or not and such.

ive been there done that sooooooooooooooooooooo many times its not even funny. Get in somewhere that can manage the meds. use crisis to help find a place to go and tell the crisis counselor which hospital didnt really help you so that they might find a more suitable facility that can help you.

i have been to 3 different facilities and any of the three i would go to again (including the one that kept me for almost a month). My girl felinefae was through it with me and so was Chaosforge.

Also surround your self with helpful positive people and let them get to know you when your normal and when your meds are F***in up so that they can tell you when you might need added support before you see it yourself.

Its best to stop it when first recognised than to let it go for too long.

wish you the best.

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RE: Can seroquil , an anti pychotic actually make peopl... - 12/11/2013 6:03:30 PM

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Not suicidal just out of control, confused not safe scared and mad and then i just cry and rage. and i function really well for a large part of the day then a trigger hits and i have no coping skills. So I can't calm down and it seems in escapable and insurmountable. Once i calmed down if i had been admited it would have been a mistake to get admited.

Nicolena, my therapist supports me trying to hang on and not go in and learn coping skills, as long as i am able to calm down.

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ORIGINAL: PheonixRose

If you are truly feeling suicidal then give in and go get straightened up and get meds adjusted and changed in a controlled atmosphere so that you can have an idea as to the likely hood of them working or not and such.

ive been there done that sooooooooooooooooooooo many times its not even funny. Get in somewhere that can manage the meds. use crisis to help find a place to go and tell the crisis counselor which hospital didnt really help you so that they might find a more suitable facility that can help you.

i have been to 3 different facilities and any of the three i would go to again (including the one that kept me for almost a month). My girl felinefae was through it with me and so was Chaosforge.

Also surround your self with helpful positive people and let them get to know you when your normal and when your meds are F***in up so that they can tell you when you might need added support before you see it yourself.

Its best to stop it when first recognised than to let it go for too long.

wish you the best.

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RE: Can seroquil , an anti pychotic actually make peopl... - 12/11/2013 6:10:48 PM

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I was put on it in September. late September. I didn't have bad side effects other than it making me to sleepy to function. which at first i needed to be knocked loopy, now that i am largely back to functioning, being to sleepy to do jack shit is not helpful and it messes with my head and makes me cycle and feel negativly, because my feeling bad triggers me. then this week bad shit started going down and i believe seroquil is magnifying it.

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t him, spark rage, or give him panic/anxiety attacks don't affect him nearly as bad. He is a lot more happy and upbeat than I've seen him in several years now also. Goofy, funny, and loving.

I'm curious as to how long you've been on Seroquel so far? It took a few months before the side effects started easing up for him, but dealing with them until they did, pushing through it, we are seeing the rewards of continuing it. He was basically knocked loopy and then out cold for the night within an hour tops of taking his dose and it took him awhile to wake up fully in the mornings and be alert and thinking clearly. It's way better now. He hated the side effects too, but given the choice between dealing with them or going to jail motivated him greatly to keep taking it.

I'll keep you in my thoughts and hopefully soon you will be on the meds you need and seeing an improvement.

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The dr won't see me for a month but he did based on som... - 12/11/2013 6:12:09 PM

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i told his nurse everything that was wrong she relayed it, then called me back. set the appointment for december 30th. and then said i will call in Geodon pick it up and call me in a week to check in.

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RE: The dr won't see me for a month but he did based on... - 12/11/2013 7:31:36 PM

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glad to hear that you may be on the same route as me.

the geodon is the best thing i have ever came across and used ive only had to have it raised once and other than that its been doing me wonderfully.

im taking 120mg a day and the only slight side effect i have is that after i take it about a few hours im ready to wind down and go to bed. it helps me sleep along with my prazosin and visteral for nightmares and anxiety. its a wonderful trio that helps me manage my bi polar so well.

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RE: The dr won't see me for a month but he did based on... - 12/11/2013 8:05:49 PM

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They wouldnt explain y or nothing. Just said geodon. Can you maybe explain what it does n all that.

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glad to hear that you may be on the same route as me.

the geodon is the best thing i have ever came across and used ive only had to have it raised once and other than that its been doing me wonderfully.

im taking 120mg a day and the only slight side effect i have is that after i take it about a few hours im ready to wind down and go to bed. it helps me sleep along with my prazosin and visteral for nightmares and anxiety. its a wonderful trio that helps me manage my bi polar so well.

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RE: The dr won't see me for a month but he did based on... - 12/12/2013 9:37:40 AM

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Geodon is a Mood stabilizer. It helps to reduce the fluxuation of your moods to minimal. Anti depressents only work on half of the whole picture which is the depression and sadness moods. Geodon works to manage mania and depression at the same time.

It took alot of trial and error but after i had moved to kansas for a bit and got new doctors we talked and figured out that i was bipolar not just depressed .

I hope i explained it good enough for you.

Feel free to Cmail me at any time.

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RE: The dr won't see me for a month but he did based on... - 12/12/2013 1:07:39 PM

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Geodon is another atypical antipsychotic, in the same class as Seroquel and Risperdal. Many people do better on one than another. My daughter does better on Seroquel than on Risperdal. With that said, the sleepiness never went away so she is now on Seroquel Extended Release which eliminated that side effect.

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RE: The dr won't see me for a month but he did based on... - 12/12/2013 8:01:14 PM

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I took geodon for several years. The max dose...which I forget what it was b/c it's been many years since I've been off it. It didn't make me sleepy at all like seroquel did.

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RE: The dr won't see me for a month but he did based on... - 12/12/2013 8:34:32 PM

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i need it to make me sleepy. at least at first. i just don't want to be sleepy at 8. thats way to early to go to bed every single night when i do not need to. I used to not get up till 9. now i wake up at 8. and to go to bed at 8 an wake up at 8 is 12 hours of sleep,. that's to much sleep for me. i dont need that much. but I, at this point can not get up any earlier than 8 and not be wasted falling down pass out cranbby as shit tired , go to beed need 3 hour nap by 2/ 3 o clock . And my living situation does not allow me to get up any earlier than 8 and not negatively affect JAmes, who HAS TO sleep. not only because he works and can not be falling asleep at work. but he CAN'T hardly sleep as it is. he barely gets enough sleep waking up at 8, Me being awake at 6 or something would seriously make him unable to sleep because I can't go anywhere we're stuck in this one room. i have no other room to go to. I can NOT be awake with nothing to do but sit quietly. or try to be quiet for 2/3 hours.

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I took geodon for several years. The max dose...which I forget what it was b/c it's been many years since I've been off it. It didn't make me sleepy at all like seroquel did.

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RE: The dr won't see me for a month but he did based on... - 12/12/2013 9:15:48 PM

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get up and go for a walk? Take the dog out? Work around outside, get a hobby that gets you out of the house, take a book to the nearby park or coffeeshop. There's lots of things you could do that early.

Then again, I"m awake at 5 am every morning so sleeping till 8 would be heaven to me.

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RE: The dr won't see me for a month but he did based on... - 12/12/2013 9:38:37 PM

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you do realize that i have to live out of one room right? When i say we have no room it's not like we have a iving room and i can go out there to get ready or what ever right? Think one room. That;s it that;s all you get. There's no living room or kitchen or spare bedroom or nothing you can be in to go get ready and not bothering someone. our bedroom is our entire " house" you have to come in and out of the room someone is tryin to sleep in repeatedly to go in an out in an out. turn light on turn light off. and if it is dark enough you do need a ligght etc etc.

getting up and getting ready to go out would wake him up. I can probably try and perfect my technique of getting out of here quietly and we can fix the issues that makes our room to loud that;s our o our control by fixing doors that stick or doors you have to slam to shut. or a crappy old piece of furnature that makes a loud chuffing noise when you open it . but when he's not sleeping waking him up even briefly by quietly getting out of here isn't fair.

And I am a pussy it's to cold to go out at 6 am for a walk. even if you bundle up lol. I am actually gonna go out of the house more though. I am just going to do it at reasonable hours when someone who is desperate for sleep can sleep while i am getting ready for my outting.

Plus i will be completely honest and not make any excuses, after my moods get stable and i am back to normal at this point, i will get no time with him being up so early i wanna be in bed at 8. there's no reason to be in bed so early i get no time with him because he's home at 8. if we had a reason yeah it'd suck an id do it but there's no reason to

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get up and go for a walk? Take the dog out? Work around outside, get a hobby that gets you out of the house, take a book to the nearby park or coffeeshop. There's lots of things you could do that early.

Then again, I"m awake at 5 am every morning so sleeping till 8 would be heaven to me.

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RE: The dr won't see me for a month but he did based on... - 12/13/2013 3:54:56 AM

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Medical students (doctors) receive roughly one course on medications. Then, drug company representatives (sales people) come to their offices to sell them the latest drug that their company is pushing. They offer free samples and frequently, the doctor receives some money for returning a survey, getting some pictures taken, etc... It's not a pure process in that the information given to doctors is biased. THAT is their education on drugs.

If you want to know about pharmaceuticals, ask a pharmacist. It is they whom are educated without regard to company profits.

To the OP, if you are feeling the beginnings of a suicidal downward spiral, act on getting help immediately.

To anyone taking psych meds... do your own research. Is there a medical test showing that you actually have a deficiency in brain chemicals? No, there isn't. It's a guessing game. Kind of like, there's cat hair on the carpet in the living room, so a cat must live here. What if, the cat was carried in and out and no cat lives there? What if it just looks like cat hair? That kind of logic is used in prescribing psych meds in conjunction with profit motives.

I am not totally against all psych meds. But, I think it is downright immoral to ingest drugs or to give drugs to kids, before taking all other natural steps in self-care. For example:

Sleep
Water
Sunlight
Exercise
Social contact
Hygiene
Laughter
Massage (touch)
Nutrition

If you aren't excellent with all of those things, then you do that first!

Once you've mastered those self-care steps, if you still suffer, then try:

Meditation
Yoga (physical movement plus meditation)
Individual counselling
Group therapy
Hypnosis
EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Re-Processing) for PTSD - Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder

Once you've exhausted all of these steps (which have zero side-effects), then have a few appointments with a psychiatrist to discuss psych meds and to fully understand the reasoning for a diagnosis, why a type of drug would be given and what the expected results should be. If the results aren't reached within a time frame, then what would be the plan?

Then AFTER you are educated and have a plan for the use of drug therapy, then you actually try drug therapy. Pills simply are not a cure-all. They are like fast food. Lots of calories and little to no, nutrition. Drugs cause diseases: epilepsy, heart disease, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, obesity... this list goes on. And, many make people suicidal. Many people suffer injuries in car accidents because their reflexes are tanked. The losses are formidable and in some cases, deadly.

So, if you have a mental illness, take responsibility and be active and educated in your own treatment. And, by all means, notice if drugs just aren't working!

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RE: The dr won't see me for a month but he did based on... - 12/13/2013 5:21:38 AM

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I take 160mg of Geodon at night to make me relax, along with Dalmane to make me sleep. I do get up at 5 in the morning, depending if I am in pain or not. If I am in pain, I take a couple of Tramadol and sit at the computer, hitting the forums. I also take 1500 mg of Depakote ER which is my mood stabilizer. I have been taking the Depakote and Geodon for over 4 years...before that my drugs were different and stopped doing their job.

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RE: Can seroquil , an anti pychotic actually make peopl... - 12/13/2013 4:39:22 PM

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i don't understand what's going on. i think it's the seroquil. it's 2:45 am i will be again calling the dr and my pych in the morning to ask them too. but i can't at 2:46.

Honey...I ain't a doctor (I only play one on AOL) but....that shit is FUCKED UP!!!!!

I asked my Doc once...."give me something that will make me sleep ALL NIGHT!!!"

I got Seroquil. Little red pills.

Slept like a baby....for 2 nights.

Second night I was fairly confident I'd killed a goat.

It got worse.

In 6 nights...I had killed the president and a few other people and was CERTAIN when I woke up....there were parts of my yard that should NEVER be dug up.

Call your doctor immediately.

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RE: The dr won't see me for a month but he did based on... - 12/14/2013 4:54:43 AM

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I was on Depakoat, but it was making my hair fall out in huge gobs everyday. That is a side affect of it possibly. And my liver functions began suffering. And they had no positive affect on me, i didn't feel any better. I often do not feel any better on meds, I am still lethargic and appathetic and dis interested and just an overall * shrug* why bother it's not important.

The dr is very reluctant to put me on anything that causes weight gain or loss of appitite or gain of appitite. or can drive my diabetes into the worse. Which is good i guess cuz those 3 things are very important.

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I take 160mg of Geodon at night to make me relax, along with Dalmane to make me sleep. I do get up at 5 in the morning, depending if I am in pain or not. If I am in pain, I take a couple of Tramadol and sit at the computer, hitting the forums. I also take 1500 mg of Depakote ER which is my mood stabilizer. I have been taking the Depakote and Geodon for over 4 years...before that my drugs were different and stopped doing their job.

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RE: Can seroquil , an anti pychotic actually make peopl... - 12/27/2013 12:39:55 AM

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Seroquel gave me intense headaches and dizziness. I couldn't take it long with those symptoms. Also, I remember feeling paranoid the whole time. Zyprexa is what works for me.

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RE: The dr won't see me for a month but he did based on... - 12/27/2013 9:45:56 AM

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They wouldnt explain y or nothing. Just said geodon. Can you maybe explain what it does n all that.

who wouldn't explain what geodon did? if your doctor wouldn't explain it to you or address concerns you had, even over the phone, that's inexcusable. in fact it's unethical.

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