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formenteralady -> RE: The Pet (movie) anti-bdsm? (8/13/2006 11:47:30 AM)

You know i think this is supposed to be more about the human slave trade, which exists, and is very very wrong.  I think this person didn't really bother to read up on the differences between consentual BDSM play, and the illegal sale of human beings for god knows what in the black market.  I think the writer is trying to show somewhat of a difference by showing how the owner of the girl orgionaly cares and makes it consentual, but falls short in that he dosen't seem to realise thier is quite a difference between two consenting adults playing bedroom games, and someone stolen from thier family and sold for three fiddy.

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beenwhipped -> RE: The Pet (movie) anti-bdsm? (8/13/2006 1:41:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

Greetings,
 
    I wonder how many people from the bdsm -- D/s community would be willing
to partake in a documentry that shows the positive side.  
i would be the first to step up if not for a couple simple truths.

1. outside of the community, there are few with open minds, even to the point that they can think "if that is what they want, then fine by me"
2. you would be hard pressed to find enough people to put up the money required for production, marketing, etc.
3. even those that do have an open mind enough to say that we can do what they want, they still will not want to watch a documentry. I personaly still have a hard time watching an S&M scene that is equal in sevearity to the ones that enjoy participating in.




WhipTheHip -> RE: The Pet (movie) anti-bdsm? (8/13/2006 2:22:36 PM)

 
    
quote:

ORIGINAL: beenwhipped

I would be the first to step up if not for a couple simple truths.
1. outside of the community, there are few with open minds, even to the point that they can think "if that is what they want, then fine by me"
2. you would be hard pressed to find enough people to put up the money required for production, marketing, etc.
3. even those that do have an open mind enough to say that we can do what they want, they still will not want to watch a documentary. I personally still have a hard time watching an S&M scene that is equal in severity to the ones that enjoy participating in. 


1.  Even though there may not be many people outside the community with an open
   mind, if you show people the positive side of bdsm, it can't help but help.  There are
   a lot of myths that are easily refuted.  Most don't know our side at all.  At least
   if they knew our side, many would be more sympathetic.   We need to get subs
   to explain how they find bdsm to be a positive experience.  A large part of the
   population is into D/s, but they just call it marriage.  Many D/s relationships are
   not all that different from many vanilla marriages.

2.  I have enough money for production without any help.  In other words, I could produce      the thing without any financial help.  I know there are bdsm patrons with much more      capital than I have.  I bet we could get some money from Playboy magazine, and get
    their technical expertise.   I'd also like to ask ten dollars from every bdsm
    enthusiast.  A large intake here would show how popular bdsm really is.
    I suspect bdsm is 1000 times more popular than just those who go to munches
    and show up at local fetish clubs.

3.   Most people would will want to see the documentary for the same reason
   people watch documentaries on Prostitution, Strippers, Children of the Night,
   and watch all those crazy daytime shows.  

4. I would not show edge play, or anything extreme.  I would do the same thing
   religions do when they make movies promoting their religion.   They show
   their religion in its most positive light.  I would make a propaganda film to
   counter all the negative press.   I would make my documentary "fair
   and balanced" the same way FOX new is "fair and balanced."  I would shoot
   it Michael Moore style.  I would include a little bit of the dark side, like
   explaining how some Doms or Dommes do take advantage of their subs,    to make the documentary balanced.

I think America is ready to learn the truth about BDSM.  We might even
get Madonna to appear for a cameo, after all she was once into it.  I would
interview famous psychiatrists like John Berlin or John Money.  (I know one
of them just died.)  I would get them to admit they have never been research
on the general bdsm population, and get them to admit they have only
studied convicted felons.   40% of Americans are not stupid, and can be
educated.
  
Best regards,Michael




Calandra -> RE: The Pet (movie) anti-bdsm? (8/14/2006 1:54:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

Greetings,
 
    I wonder how many people from the bdsm -- D/s community would be willing
to partake in a documentry that shows the positive side.   I might be willing to
produce such a documentary if enough members of the community were
interested in participating.  Faces could be made unrecognizable by photo
image manipulation that puts faces out of focus.  You may have seen this
on shows like COPS, where they can't show someone's face for legal reasons.
 
    I wonder if any members from the community would be interested in a
collaborative effort, and if local clubs would have an interest in raising money
to help dedray production costs.
 
    I think we could make an R-rated documentry that the general public would
find interesting and educational, and would help all of us.
 
Best regards,
Michael


I and my cubby actually took part in the making of a documentary this spring. We chose NOT to hide our faces, we spoke clearly and plainly about the good, bad and the ugly without glamorizing or fantasizing. My 22 yr old son also agreed to be interviewed about what it was like growing up with power exchange.
 
I think that we only have ourselves to blame for the bad press and misunderstandings that mainstream people have witnessed. We are all potential ambassadors of this lifestyle whether we are out of the closet or not... I ask people to stop and think about what people would think about them if they were ever unexpectedly outed. Most people who find out about me later into a friendship/relationship exclaim "but you're so NORMAL!" and I smile and say "exactly!"




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