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TenderTorment -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/21/2014 1:06:15 PM)

I encounter this term in a professional sense, a bear being an employee of considerable time, long in the tooth, hairy in the arse type old curmudgeon who growls at those around them for no apparent reason, A station having 1 or more of these staff may also be referred to as a "bear pit".

Just to put a different slant on it.....



stef -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/21/2014 1:16:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Galacia

Why do you think it is a stupid question?

Look, another one!



LadyConstanze -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/21/2014 1:24:21 PM)

I guess you missed the part where I said that I think this extremely thin body type is just as bad.

And as for sitting next to somebody who takes over most of half of my seat (the seat I have paid for) on a long distance flight, it's not just "bad", it's effing hell for somebody who has back problems, apart from the fact, that if I pay for a seat, I believe I should have it and not end 8+ hours squished sideways, with little regard for my well being, yeah that is REALLY bad, especially since (and I kid you not) she came with 2 plastic bags of duty free sweets and munched her way through them over the Atlantic. Whenever I tried to move, I got a really filthy look, especially when I asked if there was another seat available and was told "Sorry, flight is booked out!"

So excuse me if I think I shouldn't suffer from somebody elses eating problem, as for the social media campaigns going for acceptance and big is beautiful, I always find it kind of weird because smokers are those totally unacceptable people, other people shouldn't pay for their addiction, and all that, but paying for somebody playing Russian roulette with their health by being dangerously skinny or dangerously large, I guess we should all be happy to pick up the tab for that?

Again, I have NOT ONCE gone up to an obese person and said "You are fat", but it seems perfectly acceptable for a very large person to make comments like "bag of bones" or "real men prefer curves" (curves go in and out, though a ball might technically be a curve) or "eat a sandwich" and all that stuff, it's kinda nice that this acceptance only seems to go for them...

If it was down to me, I'd ban all the fad diets in magazines, because I think the damned yoyo effect creates a hell lot of fat people.

Oh and btw the most abusive relationship I've ever encountered was between a woman who was married to a feeder, so excuse me if I find that very very wrong.

For my own ideal of what I find beautiful, I'm far too heavy boned and large, it's just a personal preference of what attracts me in a woman, but I know I can't change my bone structure and that I am not meant to be super skinny.

Sure you can decide that a person's weight is strictly between them and their doctor and nobody else, but then it would also be fair to say that society shouldn't have to settle the bill, it should be between them and their health provider. All my insurances, I still pay more, not because I am a smoker, because I was, I'm the first one to admit it is an addiction and damned hard to break and it was entirely up to me to stop (countless failed attempts), if overeating and not a medical issue is at the root of being overweight, then why should it be treated differently? Not sure about the US, but here if you are obese, you can attend free classes about healthy eating and cooking, free exercise classes, water gymnastics, etc. If I want to join them, I pay full price, in a way it seems as if I'm being punished for monitoring my food intake?

Again, there is a lot of leeway between too thin and too big, I see society catering to both extremes, which I plainly consider pretty fucked up. And yes, I mean size 0 as well and giving little girls eating disorders.



LanceHughes -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/21/2014 1:27:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: avox
I keep seeing the term "bear" in the ads, and, I guess it means BBW for men?
But does it mean more?
Why not just say fat?


"Why not just say fat?"

The image below is a bear and NOT a fat one you'll notice.

[image]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TpIio6ZABYY/SwhHZEln-II/AAAAAAAAD88/6Nb_9WriSIU/s1600/sexy,+hairy,+hunky,+daddy,+bear,+white+underwear,+gay+big+dick,+butch,+stud,+sweaty+armpit,+bear+with+stubble,+sexy+mature,+older+gay+guy,+bald+muscle+hunk.jpg[/image]



LadyConstanze -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/21/2014 1:32:53 PM)

LOL, never saw bear as (just) fat, hanging out with quite a few friends on Canal Street regularly, bears tend to be fairly hairy and solid, there might be the odd paunchy bear, the gay community in the UK jokingly refers to them as the Paddington Bear, so if somebody sees a UK add where a guy describes himself as P-bear, it has nothing to do with watersports

[image]http://www.thefloridastandard.com/files/2013/07/Paddington.jpg[/image]



JstAnotherSub -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/21/2014 2:30:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OvidInDallas

Hello Avox,

Bear is a term used in the gay community to describe a man who is hairy and generally larger/husky. This doesn't necessarily mean fat. It could be someone who is more built like a typical construction worker (for example) which is an individual who tends to be larger and in shape but not muscular like a bodybuilder.

I am sure you aren't being intentionally offensive, but when you say "it means BBW for men" and then ask "Why not just say fat?" you are promoting a body image shaming attitude. The reason people describe themselves as BBW or as a bear is first, because they are describing a physical trait they are proud of and that other people are attracted to (even if you might not be personally) and second, because it is far more body positive than describing themselves as fat which may not even be true and is a term loaded with negative connotations and shaming.

Hopefully that answers your questions.

Regards,
Ovid

Not to derail, but fat is just an adjective like tall, short, thin, etc. Not everyone is offended by the word. BBW offends me more honestly. I am an awesome person, but beautiful I am not-lol. TO ME, BBW is silly, but I know many love the term.

sincerely
jstanotherfatsub

[;)]

To the OP, glad you found your answer.



JstAnotherSub -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/21/2014 2:33:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

The original OP was about a term, not a fat thread, but you helped turn it into one, along with another poster who said obesity causes cancer

So I guess I caused my own cancer, which I will mention at the chemo center on Monday.

Sorry you had to personally suffer sitting next to a larger person on a plane, that is really tough.

It is not up to you or anyone else to decide how someone views themselves or how body acceptance is promoted. Whomever wants to do that is far more helpful than assholes who are cruel.

Finally, not one fat man or woman on the planet needs any education from strangers on their size or their health. That is between them and their health professionals.

And all the recent big is beautiful social media campaigns never ONCE say being fat is always healthy. They are here because body acceptance goes a long way towards making people help themselves, if possible, rather than body shaming.

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JstAnotherSub -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/21/2014 2:37:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1



This is one of the most highly cited articles indicating the obesity -> cancer link. 100% guarantee your oncologist has read it.

http://www.nature.com/nrc/journal/v4/n8/abs/nrc1408.html

Whether you in any way "caused your own cancer" may be impossible to determine. It depends on the type of tumor, as well as many other factors. It might be easier to eliminate your weight as a contributing factor than to state that yes your weight was a contributing factor. That's a matter for discussion with your own medical team, if you decide you want to bring it up. Speculation about that on the internet is counterproductive, at best.

Regarding your comment about social media campaigns, I won't link to any of the ones I was referring to, because I find them abhorrent. However, the This Is Thin Privilege blog does provide a gateway into that world, if you're interested in seeing what I'm referring to. Fair warning: those people are the moral equivalent of faith-healing parents who pray for their children instead of taking them to the hospital, and then accept no responsibility when the children die.

Best wishes in your fight.


Everything causes cancer these days



sexyred1 -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/21/2014 4:19:22 PM)

That is true. I am going to one of the best cancer centers in the world and my oncologist is brilliant and a scientist.

I actually asked asked him about nutritional advice to fight cancer and he said, "just eat healthy and don't focus on weight right now. Focus on positive attitude. I have heavy, thin, and average cancer patients, because everyone on earth has cancer cells, which is why even kids get cancer."

You can do everything right with eating and exercise, and it's out of your control.

To the nasty posters, god help you if cancer chooses you or a family member as it's next victim. I just hope they aren't fat.



LadyConstanze -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/21/2014 5:26:21 PM)

In case I am the nasty poster, thank you, donated an ovary and my thyroid to it, my mom her breast, grandma died of leukemia...

If it is nasty to not promote something as beautiful that can shorten the lives and quality of life of people suffering from it, I'm down with being nasty, seriously no problem with it. I just would like to see where I ever made fun of people being too large or too skinny or was rude to them because of size?

I just happened to have been around a person who suffered from congestive heart failure due to eating far too much and took care of him after his transplant, it was one of the most challenging and profound times I've ever encountered, a woman 2 roads away is going through considerable medical problems for having been with a feeder who told her she's beautiful and wouldn't let her lose weight, when her docs said she needs to lose weight or she would be dead soon, he left her because she checked herself into a clinic - she couldn't walk anymore and needed assistance to go to the bathroom, they can't replace all the joints she's worn out, she'll be wheelchair bound for the rest of her life. I fail to see the beauty of it, try as I might. At the same time I maintain that promoting an overly thin body image is just as wrong.

As I said, if that makes me nasty, I'm really cool with it, I consider it common sense.



sexyred1 -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/21/2014 8:30:16 PM)

Wow, you go for the extreme don't you! Who the hell is suggesting feeder-ism is safe! That is abuse.




jlf1961 -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/21/2014 8:52:26 PM)

Uh, with the gang I hang around with, if one yells bear, it usually means there is a fur covered four legged omnivore in our immediate vicinity.

Then there was the guy in my unit in the army we called bear. 6'4" solid bone, muscle and hair.... this guy got five oclock shadow at 1400.

Finally there is "Bear" my brother in law's dog that he had to leave here when he became a trainer for the trucking company he works for. I would have named the dog curly, mop, and as much as he bounces, roo.



sunshinemiss -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/21/2014 9:07:00 PM)

Lance for the win!



ExquisiteStings -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/21/2014 9:34:01 PM)

I love that photo of the stuffed Paddington. All he needs is his jar of marmalade.



ExiledTyrant -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/22/2014 1:28:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Apparently not, however. (St = stone, a unit of weight used in the UK. 60 stone = 840 pounds.)



After my team of scientists and mathematicians worked exhaustively through the night on the equation, they've determined that I do not have much lead in my ass per stone standards.

Featherweight
Exiled



chatterbox24 -> RE: When people say they're a "bear", what does that mean? (2/22/2014 4:53:49 AM)

I wish you well on your treatments and much health to you!!!!

I laughed earlier in this thread because the question struck me funny. Im like oh boy!!!! Fat is not a word I like to use because its offensive to many people, and if I use it, other then kiddingly descrbing myself, im meaning to offend because I am annoyed. Its just not a good choice of words because most people when they do use it are not using it for any positive reason.
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

That is true. I am going to one of the best cancer centers in the world and my oncologist is brilliant and a scientist.

I actually asked asked him about nutritional advice to fight cancer and he said, "just eat healthy and don't focus on weight right now. Focus on positive attitude. I have heavy, thin, and average cancer patients, because everyone on earth has cancer cells, which is why even kids get cancer."

You can do everything right with eating and exercise, and it's out of your control.

To the nasty posters, god help you if cancer chooses you or a family member as it's next victim. I just hope they aren't fat.




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