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oneoldvet -> theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 5:52:12 PM)

I just don’t understand it, 30 years ago when I was first introduced to BDSM by a very special who will remain nameless. She taught me the Lifestyle was all about the total power exchange. The submissive surrenders their power to the Dominant and the stronger the submissive the more power they had to surrender. So for the next 30 plus years that's the way I lived my life with my submissive I was married to one for 25 years and then for the next few years I had two collared submissive women living with me one was purely for sexual use the other was for domestic and physical use.
Over time as I retired from my job I began riding my Road King more and more and wasn’t at home to take care of my girls and they asked for release and so it was that I was without.
About 5 years ago I moved from Charlotte to Cleveland to finish a novel I had been working on for years. Once I finished it I became restless and yearned for the lifestyle again.
Therefore, it was the other day the 20th of February, that I decided to begin looking for a submissive and looking for a group in Cleveland. I had the internet installed and logged on to ALT.Com and Collarme.com. Moreover, my eyes were opened wide. I prepared to do a search and the names and photos of women who were looking for a Dominant appeared on my screen.
As I browsed through the pictures, I saw women laying prone all gapped open. Now, I thought it was the power exchange that is what the submissive wanted but I suppose it is a meat market now. Here look at me I'm a slut.
We all know, the penis does not have sight, so it doesn’t matter to the penis what a pudendum looks like, nor does it care, we care what it feels like and the pleasure it transmits to the brain, nor do the hands have some mystical vision to see the breasts they are fondling. So why do they do it?
I have taken both my submissive girls to the Hell Fire Club, and to Black Rose in DC and Beat me in Saint Louis MO. and least, I forget the Rubber Ball in London. And I will admit I paraded them around nearly nude for the festivities.
Therefore, I'm confused. What happened to the Power Exchange?
I chatted with several so-called submissive women who in the course of our chats told me their tale of woe and that's why they wanted to come to a Dom immediately. One was here in the USA on an expired Visa and needed 500 dollars to get it fixed and then she would come to me. The other another Russian said she was fleeced out of 185K by a Nigerian and needed 5000 to pay a lawyer in Nigeria to get her money back. And I sat there and listened to these tales of woe.
Now I have to admit I'm 63 I'm short and fat. I’m not a by any means a stud or a catch of the day. However, the lifestyle is about the exchange of power and the power comes from the brain the power of the mind and let face it the body is the package that hauls the power around, a beautiful woman is a great boost to any ones ego.
However, as I have always said, “Having arm-candy or eye-candy, sitting on my scooter would make this old biker’s ego soar. However, having a real submissive woman, arm candy or not, sitting behind me on my scooter, who makes my soul sing, is truly, what my heart desires.
So where are they I have talked well messaged with several and asked them some very simple questions, I asked on what her definition of a slave was and she said, “I have been one for 3 years I gave my heart and soul to my master.” And I just chuckled to myself, and shook my head.
I said I talked to 3 in 2 days the last I showed her my newest close up pic of my old face and she ran for the hills and I said to myself don’t do that again surprise them. Maybe I just need to start going to the bars and find some drunk or addict those are easy slaves, you feed them their addiction and they do whatever you want as long as they are conscious.
So I ask again where are the smart intelligent women who know what a power exchange is or do they even exist in this new age.
I beg your pardon for this diatribe; however, I had to say something my future seems up for grabs right now on collar and Alt. so all who read thisto A/all Be well




Rawni -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 6:12:06 PM)

From one old coot to another... Darlin, we aren't always a hot commodity. We can't just order up what we want and find an abundance of it. I too, would like to see more of what I find important out there, but it just isn't there and when it is, it is very difficult to find. Whether we hinder our search or not, also comes into effect.

I am told it would be far easier if I just wanted to top or catered to the men that think a domina should. I should go to munches or events... I should, I should, I should and you know what I say? I say, I am good where I am and doing what I'm doing and I don't complain or accept less. I will find it or I won't, it doesn't stop my life or happiness.

I think the the answer is in finding a comfy spot for yourself, within yourself and not expecting far too much, without settling far too much. We get older, we get more set in our ways, we tolerate less because we know the game and one day... maybe... just maybe... we will find what we would like. Then again, we can become impatient, expect far too much, rule out far too much or simply live in an area no one really wants to relocate to. Who the hell knows... but we really shouldn't care so much. That's where the problems start.




angelikaJ -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 6:15:40 PM)

If I may ask?
When you are messaging women, what ages are the women?

You have been here one day.
It seems unfortunate to me that you either had such unrealistically high expectations or so little patience that in one day you are feeling so frustrated that you were compelled to express it here.

Most of us did not find our One or even our 'maybe?' within a day of joining.

I hope you find what you seek.




Missokyst -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 6:28:15 PM)

I never understand why simply because one is dominant and this is supposed to be about the exchange of power, people just do not get that there has to be some sort of attraction between 2 people.
I am submissive, very much into letting my mate rule me but FIRST there must be chemistry.
My X dominant is always encouraging me to seek out men with money who will take care of me but I say PHHHHHTTTT.  I do not seek money.  I am not attracted to men for what they can do for me, and that includes taking my power even though that is what I crave in a relationship.  I give it when I can't view him in any other way but as my better half.  That means time.. and if I am going to commit to time I have to want him as a man first, then as a dominant.

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ORIGINAL: oneoldvet

Now I have to admit I'm 63 I'm short and fat. I’m not a by any means a stud or a catch of the day. However, the lifestyle is about the exchange of power and the power comes from the brain the power of the mind and let face it the body is the package that hauls the power around, a beautiful woman is a great boost to any ones ego.




sexyred1 -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 6:41:36 PM)

Another older dude who waxes poetically about how the "old days" of BDSM were such and such, discusses how hot his women were and how he paraded them around clubs naked, then goes on to freak out about all the women who feel they want to show their stuff, and how there are "so called" submissives who don't fit his narrow view of one.

Then you criticize women who disliked your photo, I suppose they are not real submissives either as they dare to have preferences, ya know, like you keep saying you love eye candy riding on your bike in your profile.

I marvel at the lack of patience that a man who joined ONE DAY AGO has achieved.





oneoldvet -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 6:47:30 PM)

thanks to all who have read my diatraibe and my short stories maybe im cynical and yes maybe i need to be more patient and i really do not expect to find a sub in a day or a month but i would love to chat with some who know what the lifestyle is all about. as i said at the end of my diatribe, a real sub sitting behind me on my scooter who makes my soul sing is what i am looking for




littlewonder -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 6:51:04 PM)

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<repeats to herself> be nice.....be nice....be nice.....




LadyPact -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 6:53:28 PM)

Dude, knock it off.

When you moved from Charlotte to Cleveland, did you walk into any kind of lifestyle gathering and have women hanging all over you in a day? No? Then stop expecting that to happen here.

If you want a fast food society, then you also have to understand that some of the fries are soggy.




jlf1961 -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 6:57:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Dude, knock it off.

When you moved from Charlotte to Cleveland, did you walk into any kind of lifestyle gathering and have women hanging all over you in a day? No? Then stop expecting that to happen here.

If you want a fast food society, then you also have to understand that some of the fries are soggy.




Lady P, some of the fries are not just soggy, but suffering from ergot poisoning, which is a neat trick since that only happens in the grain rye.

But I agree with your sentiment.




Rawni -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 7:00:43 PM)

This seems to be a problem of creating paths in our lives and sometimes picking the wrong ones.

The old days are gone and would be dead if not our memory of them.

When we set ourselves or our lives up in certain ways, we can often pay a price and you oldvet are paying that price for the choices you made long ago.

You want bike eye candy... which means a bit more than you want a babe on the bike that you are attracted to. Typically bike eye candy is positioning with other bikers that like your bike eye candy. When you feel that women are of more worth because they are eye candy... you have a wife and two you use and then go riding off into the sunset with the wind in your hair... so much that the ones you use and maybe the wife too... wanted to be released... you are dealing with choices you made then and now. You didn't seem to care so much back then and some of that eye candy meat out there... might be afraid you might want some wind in your face again and leave them by the roadside... devalued.

Cause and effect. It doesn't seem the old bikers and the old guys... get it sometimes because they are reaping what they have sown. If you want bike adornment, I suggest going to Harley Davidson. If you want eye candy for positioning or prestige or company in your older years... you may in fact get a submissive... but keep in mind... eye candy doesn't always want to be treated like eye candy even the good submissive kind.

If you are anything like some of the bikers I have known throughout life... the new day of biking is far different, whole new set of everything and it just might take some balls, to see the difference, apply yourself and find out what works currently with bikes and babes.




RedMagic1 -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 7:03:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: oneoldvet
thanks to all who have read my diatraibe

I didn't. Wall of text. No paragraph indentation nor separation.

Therefore, I knew immediately what you were saying: women aren't responding to me. And, as long as you avoid the use of paragraph formatting, they will continue to not respond. It only would have taken you 5-8 more keystrokes to hit the return key and separate your paragraphs. So you're telling everyone, "I'm lazy, or I have no idea how to use modern technology." Those things might be completely false, and you are a hardworking techno whiz. But no one will ever know that, unless you communicate differently.




shiftyw -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 7:20:11 PM)

I'm with RedMagic.
Paragraphs are sexy.




DesFIP -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 8:02:02 PM)

You got bored, abandoned your wife and another and now you're whining because nobody wants to commit to you.
And all you want in a potential partner is that she be eye candy, even though you're far from that yourself.





Diore -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 8:10:53 PM)

Just from a younger person's perspective, and I admit I'm less young than I was... before I was this old, but there is no shame in living a life and ending up in a less than ideal spot. It happens, and I'm sure different things will drive me at different times. I hope not, but I wouldn't despair that there's no one left in the world worth holding out some hope for.

Sometimes one has a lot more wisdom than they care to apply or realize, and I think that's a quality many people forget about as they age. You don't just become something without a purpose or enticing qualities.

Good luck on finding someone still, and don't focus on your poor qualities; instead, how about what makes you brilliant? The passions you've discovered such as biking or writing. Those are wonderful qualities in many circles.




LafayetteLady -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 8:20:01 PM)

You do know those "tales of woe" were scams, right?

Based on you speaking with those, you appear to be searching for much younger than you. You might find it, but unlikely.

D/s is about power exchange, but much more than that as well. That power exchange doesn't occur just because you checked the dominant box. It happens when someone agrees to be in a relationship with you. Until the, you are equals.

Like sexyred1 said, you simultaneously complain about women's photos while talking about how you paraded you s- types around predominantly nude. The women in the photos are sluts, but your. S-types were as pure as the snow? Or was it because the women with the photos chose to show their nudity, and your s-types were ordered by you to do it.

Rome wasn't built in a day,a d it will certainly take longer than that for you to find a suitable partner. I think it migh ttake you even longer to come to terms with women being able to choose you even though they are submissive. You need to learn how to impress them, show them why they should want to be with the old guy.




TieMeInKnottss -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 8:50:48 PM)

I read your profile. Your profile is nice in that it gives a glimpse of you as a person...BUT, it is very brief and is more of a benign statement. After reading...I kind of said "that's nice" & moved on. Nothing really struck me. Your age is a definite negative so you need to really punch up the personality.




Lynnxz -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 10:09:28 PM)

I can't tell if OP approves of sluts or not.




RemoteUser -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 10:09:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

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ORIGINAL: oneoldvet
thanks to all who have read my diatraibe


I didn't. Wall of text. No paragraph indentation nor separation.


In fairness, messages I send on the other side via my cell phone (Samsung Galaxy II) will become a wall of text, even if I convert to the full site and make appropriate use of the return key to format paragraphs.

There is sloppy, yes, but then there is compatibility. Some technology doesn't talk exactly the same to other kinds, no matter how compatible they are in theory.




LafayetteLady -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 10:44:40 PM)

I've seen several people say that. My phone is a piece of shit, I cansee the whole windown when I type, if I don't use fast reply, my web page closes after posting. Quoting, including links? Not a chance. Yet while I may have more spelling errors than usual because of the qwerty keyboard and not being able to see everything I type, my paragraphs are fine and the extra "return" I put in stays in.

Still I would rather have the paragraph problem than this phone, lol.




SWDesertDom -> RE: theoldvet and I have to vent: (2/22/2014 10:51:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RemoteUser

There is sloppy, yes, but then there is compatibility. Some technology doesn't talk exactly the same to other kinds, no matter how compatible they are in theory.



Given that CM runs on Chalcolithic technology, this is hardly surprising.




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