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Go Green ! - 3/4/2014 4:50:35 AM

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Washington, D.C. may have the highest number of certified green buildings in the country, but research by Environmental Policy Alliance suggests it might not be doing much good.

LEED is the brainchild of the U.S. Green Building Council (USGBC), a private environmental group.

Take the Green Building Council’s Washington headquarters. Replete with the group’s top green-energy accolade, the platinum LEED certification, the USGBC’s main base comes in at 236 EUI. The average EUI for uncertified buildings in the capital? Just 199.

“LEED certification is little more than a fancy plaque displayed by these ‘green’ buildings,” charged Anastasia Swearingen, LEED Exposed’s lead researcher on the project. “Previous analyses of energy use by LEED-certified buildings have consistently shown that LEED ratings have no bearing on actual energy efficiency.”

Green !!

It's the new standard.

What can be more efficient than inefficiency. DC is the perfect center for such perfection.

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RE: Go Green ! - 3/4/2014 5:48:25 AM

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Yup private enterprise is about as efficient as thrice hammered shit, another nutsacker hoax exposed again.

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RE: Go Green ! - 3/4/2014 6:14:11 AM

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Yup private enterprise is about as efficient as thrice hammered shit, another nutsacker hoax exposed again.

Is there something intelligent about that? My crap-a-words meter just got pegged.

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RE: Go Green ! - 3/4/2014 6:17:18 AM

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LEED is the brainchild of the U.S. Green Building Council (USGBC), a private environmental group.

I know I ain't working with geniuses here, but try and read your own horseshit. Then you could (if things were different) have a chance at intelligent discourse.

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RE: Go Green ! - 3/4/2014 6:25:15 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie

Washington, D.C. may have the highest number of certified green buildings in the country, but research by Environmental Policy Alliance suggests it might not be doing much good.

LEED is the brainchild of the U.S. Green Building Council (USGBC), a private environmental group.

Take the Green Building Council’s Washington headquarters. Replete with the group’s top green-energy accolade, the platinum LEED certification, the USGBC’s main base comes in at 236 EUI. The average EUI for uncertified buildings in the capital? Just 199.

“LEED certification is little more than a fancy plaque displayed by these ‘green’ buildings,” charged Anastasia Swearingen, LEED Exposed’s lead researcher on the project. “Previous analyses of energy use by LEED-certified buildings have consistently shown that LEED ratings have no bearing on actual energy efficiency.”

Green !! It's the new standard.

What can be more efficient than inefficiency. DC is the perfect center for such perfection.

You really posted an article that claims that a properly insulated modern building uses more energy than an older improperly insulated one. Do you think everyone is as gullible as conservatives?

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RE: Go Green ! - 3/4/2014 6:32:32 AM

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In the immortal words of Kermit the Frog; "It's not easy being green".
Bureaucrats can't tell between green and chartreuse and often mistake purple for green.

As long as the clueless set the standards the standards are meaningless.
I'm reminded of the government recommendation during the "energy crisis" of the 1980s to remove every other lamp in fluorescent fixtures to save electricity in public buildings. Now, if you ask any electrical engineer, most mechanics and quite a few maintenance workers; they will tell you that if you remove part of the load on a balance transformer it will burn out faster and use a lot more electricity than it would if properly implemented. It took a year and a half for the bureaucrats to listen, and a year and a half of a 40% increase in power consumption in federal buildings, before they turned all the lights back on. (Please not this applies to fluorescent light fixtures and not incandescent.)

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RE: Go Green ! - 3/4/2014 8:33:11 AM

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I wonder - how big is this building, relative to the "average" building in DC?

I mean, DC has a lot of townhouses, which I imagine use a lot less energy than even the greenest of office buildings.

To compare an industry headquarters with the "average" building in a smallish city that basically doesn't allow buildings over 13 stories doesn't really seem like a fair comparison.

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RE: Go Green ! - 3/4/2014 9:46:00 AM

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You really posted an article that claims that a properly insulated modern building uses more energy than an older improperly insulated one. Do you think everyone is as gullible as conservatives?

Actually, Dom, he's just spouting off at 'green' which as we all know is just a polite euphemism for the Liberal/Commie/Kenyan conspiracy. Pavlovian reflex, you know. Nothing to see here.

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