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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/11/2014 5:38:51 PM   
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"Nigeria and Pakistan are going to be tough. The Pakistan violence is evil," Mr Gates told the AFP news agency. "The truth is the vaccine is to help kids. And spreading rumours and attacking the workers on this... those people don't have justice and truth on their side."

India, which once suffered the most from polio, recently celebrated being three years without a confirmed case. But the disease remains endemic in Afghanistan, Nigeria and Pakistan and there have been new outbreaks in Somalia and Syria. Of the three countries where it is endemic, only Pakistan saw an increase in cases."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/bill-gates-violence-in-pakistan-and-nigeria-threatens-plan-to-eradicate-polio-by-2018-9077564.html

What would you do if the life of your child was threatened, by fanatics who don't wanna vaccine their children against diseases?


Do you mean Jehovahs Witnesses or is this just more islamophobic bullshit ?

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/11/2014 5:42:16 PM   
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Chad was the last country that kept vaccinating, but we'll see.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2551664/Will-climate-change-bring-SMALLPOX-Siberian-corpses-ooze-contagious-virus-graveyards-thaw-claim-scientists.html
This one better?

Anyway that is not my problem. My problem is with people not vaccinating and infecting my kids. They endanger the lives and wellbeing of my children. How do I stop this?






I`d worry more about infecting my kids with your viewpoints.

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/11/2014 10:36:13 PM   
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I was reading some stuff about the singer/songwriter Joni Mitchell, she had polio at age nine and, what I think they simply call "post polio syndrome"
a whole 35 years later!
It's some type of viris which remains dormant in the body and in a certain percentage of people resurfaces in mid age. I think they said never after the age of 60 though for whatever reason.
And as for terrorists preventing kids from getting meds it's like "Tooco" in that movie "The good the bad and the ugly" said when he was taking his bath; "When it's time to shoot shoot, don't talk."

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/12/2014 9:29:51 AM   
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From: http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/post_polio/detail_post_polio.htm

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Post-polio syndrome (PPS) is a condition that affects polio survivors years after recovery from an initial acute attack of the poliomyelitis virus. Most often, polio survivors start to experience gradual new weakening in muscles that were previously affected by the polio infection. The most common symptoms include slowly progressive muscle weakness, fatigue (both generalized and muscular), and a gradual decrease in the size of muscles (muscle atrophy). Pain from joint degeneration and increasing skeletal deformities such as scoliosis (curvature of the spine) is common and may precede the weakness and muscle atrophy. Some individuals experience only minor symptoms while others develop visible muscle weakness and atrophy.


It sounds just like how Herpes Varicella (Chicken Pox) can become Herpes Zoster (Shingles) after infesting a person for several decades.

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/12/2014 10:18:10 AM   
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quote:

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"Nigeria and Pakistan are going to be tough. The Pakistan violence is evil," Mr Gates told the AFP news agency. "The truth is the vaccine is to help kids. And spreading rumours and attacking the workers on this... those people don't have justice and truth on their side."

India, which once suffered the most from polio, recently celebrated being three years without a confirmed case. But the disease remains endemic in Afghanistan, Nigeria and Pakistan and there have been new outbreaks in Somalia and Syria. Of the three countries where it is endemic, only Pakistan saw an increase in cases."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/bill-gates-violence-in-pakistan-and-nigeria-threatens-plan-to-eradicate-polio-by-2018-9077564.html

What would you do if the life of your child was threatened, by fanatics who don't wanna vaccine their children against diseases?


Do you mean Jehovahs Witnesses or is this just more islamophobic bullshit ?


I just saw a good docu on tv about it. So I thought to post it because it can concern any country or person. This is important because anti polioworkers get shot and killed in these countries. So it's pretty much a drama. That it is a certain religion doing it is just, let's say convenient for my cause. And again you can call me an islamphobe all you want. I think you're a racistphobe by the way. And let me point out how pathetic your continous attempts are to call me something wich I am certainly not. Phobia entails fear. I have never feared any religion, whatsoever. Just like you I do find many followers of faiths extremely pathetic and borderline psychosis. Just so you know and other people too.
Happy now?

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/12/2014 10:19:57 AM   
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Chad was the last country that kept vaccinating, but we'll see.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2551664/Will-climate-change-bring-SMALLPOX-Siberian-corpses-ooze-contagious-virus-graveyards-thaw-claim-scientists.html
This one better?

Anyway that is not my problem. My problem is with people not vaccinating and infecting my kids. They endanger the lives and wellbeing of my children. How do I stop this?






I`d worry more about infecting my kids with your viewpoints.

You're funny in a non comical sense comprende?

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/12/2014 12:53:24 PM   
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I just saw a good docu on tv about it. So I thought to post it because it can concern any country or person. This is important because anti polioworkers get shot and killed in these countries. So it's pretty much a drama. That it is a certain religion doing it is just, let's say convenient for my cause. And again you can call me an islamphobe all you want. I think you're a racistphobe by the way. And let me point out how pathetic your continous attempts are to call me something wich I am certainly not. Phobia entails fear. I have never feared any religion, whatsoever. Just like you I do find many followers of faiths extremely pathetic and borderline psychosis. Just so you know and other people too.
Happy now?



Love your knew word racistphobe..... I just despise them for the hatred, bile and ignorance they spew on a daily basis. As for your posts not being islamophobic, I will continue to make my own mind up by what you write, as will others.

As for your "docu"......... Any chance of a link...

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/12/2014 6:15:35 PM   
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Did some digging on the vaccination worker being shot in Pakistan.

It turns out some subsets of the terrorists have declared that all the aid workers doing vaccination work are spies for the great satan.
Why?
It was a doctor doing vaccination work that spotted and tipped off the U.S. military on the location of Osama Bin Ladin.
from: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/29/world/asia/vaccine-worker-killed-in-pakistan-amid-taliban-hostility.html?_r=0
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The Taliban’s resistance to polio vaccination hardened after the raid in May 2011 on Osama bin Laden’s compound in northern Pakistan, as revelations surfaced that the C.I.A. had used a Pakistani doctor, Shakil Afridi, to run a vaccination campaign that aided efforts to locate Bin Laden.


And vaccinations are an American plot to sterilize muslims:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/09/world/africa/in-nigeria-polio-vaccine-workers-are-killed-by-gunmen.html

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While vaccinators have not previously been killed in the country, there is a long history of Nigerian Muslims shunning the vaccine.

Ten years ago, immunization was suspended for 11 months as local governors waited for local scientists to investigate rumors that it caused AIDS or was a Western plot to sterilize Muslim girls. That hiatus let cases spread across Africa. The Nigerian strain of the virus even reached Saudi Arabia when a Nigerian child living in hills outside Mecca was paralyzed.

Heidi Larson, an anthropologist at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine who tracks vaccine issues, said the newest killings “are kind of mimicking what’s going on in Pakistan, and I feel it’s very much prompted by that.”


You can use words like "stupid violent ragheads" or you can say "stupid superstitious religious fanatics". In this case it probably means the same even if pejorative. But, I do object to the inference that the CIA and United States are to blame for violent terrorists executing humanitarian aid workers.

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/13/2014 5:16:13 AM   
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I know about aid workers being shot. I was specifically asking him for his link.

Dont start me off on the CIA and violent terrorists either, or I will have to remind you about the Contras, just for starters.

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/13/2014 6:18:42 PM   
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Some of the Virginia Farm Boys have their act together but overall the acronym of Consolidated Idiocy Agency often applies.

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/13/2014 7:51:58 PM   
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Polio eradication has actually been spearheaded not by government groups but by Rotarians (a civic organization). And this was an area that I was active in for many years.

The issue recently has been that the health organizations have been regarded in areas of afghanistan and the provincial territories of pakistan with suspicion.
There have been fatwas issued that it is anti muslim to be innoculated - countered by other fatwas of course. But nonetheless the remoteness and antipathy to western values has made the eradication essentially impossible.

Pakistan, India, Afghanistan .. all serves as reservoirs for the disease.

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/13/2014 9:02:33 PM   
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Polio eradication has actually been spearheaded not by government groups but by Rotarians (a civic organization). And this was an area that I was active in for many years.

The issue recently has been that the health organizations have been regarded in areas of afghanistan and the provincial territories of pakistan with suspicion.
There have been fatwas issued that it is anti muslim to be innoculated - countered by other fatwas of course. But nonetheless the remoteness and antipathy to western values has made the eradication essentially impossible.

Pakistan, India, Afghanistan .. all serves as reservoirs for the disease.


Sounds like a fundamentalist attitude I've seen so many time. The concept that doing anything to alleviate God's will is sinful.

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/14/2014 5:23:35 PM   
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the only fatwahs I have heard of against aid workers were issued by the Taliban.

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/15/2014 6:06:23 PM   
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So here we have another famous couple deciding not to vaccinate their kids. It sounds like Kristin Cavallari and her husband Jay Cutler have also been listening to Jenny McCarthy and taking ill advised advice from an idiot.

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/15/2014 9:18:35 PM   
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"Nigeria and Pakistan are going to be tough. The Pakistan violence is evil," Mr Gates told the AFP news agency. "The truth is the vaccine is to help kids. And spreading rumours and attacking the workers on this... those people don't have justice and truth on their side."

India, which once suffered the most from polio, recently celebrated being three years without a confirmed case. But the disease remains endemic in Afghanistan, Nigeria and Pakistan and there have been new outbreaks in Somalia and Syria. Of the three countries where it is endemic, only Pakistan saw an increase in cases."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/bill-gates-violence-in-pakistan-and-nigeria-threatens-plan-to-eradicate-polio-by-2018-9077564.html

What would you do if the life of your child was threatened, by fanatics who don't wanna vaccine their children against diseases?


Do you mean Jehovahs Witnesses or is this just more islamophobic bullshit ?


I just saw a good docu on tv about it. So I thought to post it because it can concern any country or person. This is important because anti polioworkers get shot and killed in these countries. So it's pretty much a drama. That it is a certain religion doing it is just, let's say convenient for my cause. And again you can call me an islamphobe all you want. I think you're a racistphobe by the way. And let me point out how pathetic your continous attempts are to call me something wich I am certainly not. Phobia entails fear. I have never feared any religion, whatsoever. Just like you I do find many followers of faiths extremely pathetic and borderline psychosis. Just so you know and other people too.
Happy now?


Attacking Jehovah's Witnesses is ok but blasting Moslems when they do the same thing, or worse
is bigotry?

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/16/2014 3:19:36 AM   
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After several hours of testimony from parents and doctors, Colorado’s House Health, Insurance and Environment Committee passed a bipartisan measure Thursday night aimed at making it harder for parents to send their children to school without receiving required vaccines.

Under current Colorado law, parents are able to opt out of vaccinating their children with a statement of exemption for religious or personal beliefs.

Sparked by recent whooping cough outbreaks, HB 14-1288 would require parents opposed to vaccination to complete an online education module and acquire the signature of a health care professional confirming disclosure of possible health risks "to the student and the community.”

State Rep. Dan Pabon (D) proposed the bill to ensure that parents are more informed and "that they're not just opting out simply because of convenience," according to the Denver Post.

"Vaccine refusal results in higher rates of vaccine-preventable disease," Pabon said. "This is a public health issue. These are very serious diseases."

Colorado has the sixth-highest rate of non-vaccinated public school kindergarteners. The bill will also mandate all licensed schools and day care centers to release public records on the percentages of their non-vaccinated children.

"There are kids who can't get vaccinated because they're immuno-compromised and are being exposed to vaccine-preventable diseases,” Pabon argued on Thursday. “To add on top of that, older populations that have medical conditions are also at risk."

Although the bill would not eliminate the personal belief exemption, parents opposing the legislation argued that increased education mandates could lead to the erosion of parental rights during Thursday’s testimony before lawmakers.

"Parents have a constitutional right to parent their children," Susan Lawson, whose daughter developed encephalitis after a routine vaccine when she was a year old, told CBS Denver. "I am not an uneducated woman."

Anti-vaccination advocacy group National Vaccine Information Center has also attacked the proposal as one that “singles out and discriminates against a minority of parents with sincerely held personal beliefs … by assuming they are uneducated and should be forced into a state approved ‘education’ program.”

Between 2009 and 2012, 18 states introduced 36 immunization exemption bills, five of which sought to make obtaining vaccination exemptions more difficult. Three of them -- in Washington, California and Vermont -- became law, according to a study by Emory University's School of Public Health. A similar law in Oregon on non-medical exemptions also went into effect on March 1.

More than 30 state medical and education groups, including the Colorado Children’s Campaign, the Children’s Hospital Colorado and the Colorado BioScience Association, backed the proposed legislation, which passed with a 9-2 vote.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/14/colorado-vaccination-children_n_4966585.html

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/16/2014 4:43:10 AM   
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Attacking Jehovah's Witnesses is ok but blasting Moslems when they do the same thing, or worse
is bigotry?


Someone needs to learn to both read and comprehend. Anyone who wishes to explain for him, feel free to do so.

Got to love how you block me but continue to make snide comments whenever you can.

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/16/2014 4:45:45 AM   
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I think its called forum tourettes

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/16/2014 4:50:14 AM   
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Dont get me started Lucy.......

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RE: Polio, back with a vengeance. - 3/16/2014 5:08:43 AM   
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Now would I do something like that??????

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