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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/21/2014 7:25:18 AM   
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Everyone knows what happened on 9/11/01. But how many of you can honestly say (without researching it) what happened on 4/19/95? Just 'yes' or 'no'.


Yes, I can remember what happened on that date without looking it up.

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Don't state any further. After, do look it up as you wish. Why is one date well remembered but the other comes to mind only with material? Even though both were bad days for America? I've tried to determine at several times why this particular question nets the response of 'no' 137 out of 139 times I've asked it so far. I would rather like to see the answers before the 'cat is let out of the bag'.


On the general topic itself, I think that extremists can latch onto any ideology and use it as a pretext for violence and terror.

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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/21/2014 7:40:02 AM   
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You`re asking WAY to much from the faint of heart,cowardly cons, here.....


They`ve made it quite clear that this isn`t their fault and don`t want to know about it even if it is.....



This is some of what the right-wing-anti-government leaders were saying before the '95' domestic terrorist attack.....


G Gordon Liddy :"Well, if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests."


And that`s tame by comparison....


Never heard a single fuck-wit conpublican denounce such vile rhetoric nor have we heard such rhetoric from democrats.....


The violence,the shootings and bombings,the threats of violence and calls for violence.....the INSPIRATION for them.... are coming from just one party .


I think it`s important to tease the geopee train-wreck apart to understand why this is happening.....and ignore the squealing and thrashing about.....


It`s not happening as k has suggested b/c the gubment deserves it.It`s happening b/c the lunatic fringe`s leaders are whipping them up with lies and letting them loose on the rest of us....

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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/21/2014 8:30:54 AM   
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It`s not happening as k has suggested b/c the gubment deserves it.It`s happening b/c the lunatic fringe`s leaders are whipping them up with lies and letting them loose on the rest of us....


Perhaps it is slowly dawning on the looney Right that they no longer appeal to the majority of Americans, that the days of racist white mens' monopolising political power are gone forever.

Their fanaticism is resulting in their being locked out of the White House and their desperation reflects the sinking feeling that they may never regain it. So their leaders whip them up to a frenzy in order to "turn the country around before it's too late" ......


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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/21/2014 8:47:17 AM   
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And perhaps not.

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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/21/2014 9:26:20 AM   
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And perhaps not.

You don't see a relationship between their perception of being frozen out of power and their extremism? It seems to me to supply part of the reason for their positions.

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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/21/2014 9:56:19 AM   
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I think your baseline assumptions are flawed, beginning with your certainty they perceive themselves as "frozen out of power."

They are extreme because they believe wedge issues influence independent voters, and they can win elections with independents.



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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/21/2014 1:38:38 PM   
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And there`s a fertile persecution fantasies manufacture operation working 24/7 telling these loser PsOS how bad they have it and who`s to blame......Obama!


That POS 60 mimutes douche-bag reporter that listed the ten most dangerous liberals in America.......the murderer who shot up a church down south had that book and targeted the church b/c he thought it was a "liberal" church.....


There`s also a disrurbing trend amoung con=leaders to evoke nazis and call anything and everything they don`t like....nazi...


http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/03/21/conservatives-cant-stop-making-nazi-references/198558


Zero shame seems to be the reaction



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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/21/2014 2:11:50 PM   
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Well Owner,

I don't like you and yet I've never called you a nazi. You, on the other hand, have called me a con on numerous occasions.
Actually, thats probably the best you've called me.

As for being frozen out of power... who do you think controls the House of Representatives, and has more than a 60% chance at this point of controlling the Senate next year?

It would seem a majority of voters this election cycle tweak are going to vote for people you think are extreme. Which clearly puts you in the minority - and perhaps the extreme minority.

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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/21/2014 9:53:08 PM   
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Of course extremists think everyone else is out of touch.....that`s one of the definitions...


At this point your pary`s only recourse is voter suppression and election fraud.....


I was talking about your leadership`s abuse of the term nazi and how calling everything President Obama does nazi or that "nazism started with universal healthcare" diminishes and mocks the huge significance the Holocaust was....


I never call people nazis unless that are in fact....nazis....never met one in person or who was brave enough to say they were a nazi.....


I call people what they are and that`s usually enough.


"Online, Pam Geller insisted, "The ongoing persecution of Republicans and conservatives mirrors the attacks by the fascists of Europe on their opponents in the 1930s.""

Oh please.......your cons are going to make normal people throw-up......

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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/22/2014 3:36:15 AM   
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Well Owner,

I don't like you and yet I've never called you a nazi. You, on the other hand, have called me a con on numerous occasions.
Actually, thats probably the best you've called me.

As for being frozen out of power... who do you think controls the House of Representatives, and has more than a 60% chance at this point of controlling the Senate next year?

It would seem a majority of voters this election cycle tweak are going to vote for people you think are extreme. Which clearly puts you in the minority - and perhaps the extreme minority.


Yeah, the House of Representatives. The same body of useless Republican/Tea Parties that have allowed the most recent two sessions of Congress to be 'the most unproductive' in the nation's history. This would be the same House of Representatives that sent some forty-three bills to defend the ACA and FAILED. This would also be the same House of Representatives that nearly destroyed the US Government's financial health and well being. Recall that semi-shut down that cost the nation many tens of billions? House of Representative's fault. What has this body of Republican/Tea Party actually done for the nation as a whole that is positive and forward looking?

The voters seem to want people that will get shit done. They do not want the games, the pettiness, the juvenile attitudes so common from the House. They want the budget to be straighten out, the debt brought down, the ACA improved on, the infrastructure of the nation brought up to 2014, and good immigration laws. All things the Republican/Tea Party House of Representatives has been shown time and again to be unable to perform. At least the Senate works more often than the House of Representatives....

The President that you love to bash on even the most petty and irrelevant things? He has to perform twenty times the actions above what the House of Representatives accomplish in a full year!

Its not hard to see the Republican Party becoming as much of a minority group as the Tea Party. They are full of hate of their fellow Americans which usually doesn't help a nation that prides itself on democracy and being a free nation. How do we get more voters to the voting stations if we make it harder to perform that action? Or create laws that makes the voters jump needlessly through more hoops because of that boogeyman 'voter fraud'.

Voters in the mid-term elections are afraid of their wallets, NOT, terrorism. Its how Mr. Obama became President in 2008, 2012, and how the Democrat will win in 2016. Democrats have been focused on minorities struggling to make ends meet. They have been helping families over come many obstacles from healthcare to improving the marketplaces to help workers obtain jobs. At the end of the day, those people will more likely vote Democrat in elections than those that worship the 1%, the Republican/Tea Party. Why? Democrats seem to be more down-to-earth, intelligent, sane, and willing to make compromises if it helps Americans out. They are the group of people most open to trying new ideas and reworking previous rules, regulations and laws on the books with the understanding of knowledge gain from the passage of time to make things work for the nation.

But I do love your departure from reality on political science rants, there Phydeaux!

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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/22/2014 6:09:32 AM   
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It`s not happening as k has suggested b/c the gubment deserves it.It`s happening b/c the lunatic fringe`s leaders are whipping them up with lies and letting them loose on the rest of us....


Perhaps it is slowly dawning on the looney Right that they no longer appeal to the majority of Americans, that the days of racist white mens' monopolising political power are gone forever.

Their fanaticism is resulting in their being locked out of the White House and their desperation reflects the sinking feeling that they may never regain it. So their leaders whip them up to a frenzy in order to "turn the country around before it's too late" ......




True on all counts Tweek.


Another thing driving the weirdness is profit.....besides j-boner,the biggest political donation recipients are the most whacked out of the whacked out....like bachmann and west.


In right-wing-world.......crazy sells.......the more crazy or ridiculous......the more the lunatic fringe gives.....

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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/22/2014 6:32:04 AM   
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Look, you got right wing extremists plotting to over throw the government, no matter which party is in power, which begs the question, are they really right wing?

Then you have left wing extremists wanting to ban guns, convert cars to batteries, and force the population to eat healthy.

Then you have women on both sides up in arms about adequate closet space and designated shoe closets.

Of course, lets not forget the people that want year round NFL.

And who knows how many more extremist groups wanting everything from hiways that will handle 200 mph cars, a national language, government funding on finding cures for disease, and those people screaming about humans eating meat, wearing leather and fur.

Personally, I think we should institute something like the hunger games so that each group is represented and which ever group wins the competition, they run the country for four years.

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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/22/2014 6:52:22 AM   
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"Look, you got right wing extremists plotting to over throw the government, no matter which party is in power, which begs the question, are they really right wing? "



Exactly

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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/22/2014 6:59:31 AM   
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Another question.....as a country who`s never suffered invasion or military defeat,where did all the paranoia come from?



The closest thing to a stasi or soviet style government that we`ve suffered, was during the mccarthy era ,with their 1984ish persecutions of intellectuals.......something republicans inflicted on our nation.



Yet they are the most frighten about this happening to them.



The attack and destruction of ACORN by republicans, was an act of political terrorism....Yet they are the most afraid and paranoid that they are being targeted for political retribution....it`s hilarious....




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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/22/2014 7:03:09 AM   
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As to Kirata, a right winger who says he's an independent is just as believable as all the other "moderate independent" right wingers who come along.

For some people, calling themselves "black" isn't believable either.

Why is my blackness in question?

But she's still black, I'm still an Independent, and you're still wrong.
What has any of that got to do with you lying about your politics?



He's not lying about anything. But it could be that he is trying to see how many time he can get to to spout the same lie about him. So far it seems to be working.

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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/22/2014 7:04:42 AM   
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Everyone knows what happened on 9/11/01. But how many of you can honestly say (without researching it) what happened on 4/19/95? Just 'yes' or 'no'. Don't state any further. After, do look it up as you wish. Why is one date well remembered but the other comes to mind only with material? Even though both were bad days for America? I've tried to determine at several times why this particular question nets the response of 'no' 137 out of 139 times I've asked it so far. I would rather like to see the answers before the 'cat is let out of the bag'.


Yes


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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/22/2014 7:11:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

As to Kirata, a right winger who says he's an independent is just as believable as all the other "moderate independent" right wingers who come along.

For some people, calling themselves "black" isn't believable either.

Why is my blackness in question?

But she's still black, I'm still an Independent, and you're still wrong.
What has any of that got to do with you lying about your politics?



He's not lying about anything. But it could be that he is trying to see how many time he can get to to spout the same lie about him. So far it seems to be working.



Not sure if you know what a lie is....


Uncomfortable,embarrassing and unfortunate facts you would like to deny...... doesn`t make them un-true.


Make pretend also doesn`t count as truth.







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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/22/2014 7:13:36 AM   
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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/22/2014 7:21:30 AM   
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RE: Yet More right-wing Inspired Terrorism..... - 3/22/2014 7:24:48 AM   
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that has to be the most intelligent thing I have ever seen you post. Now if you can keep that thing in there, maybe you can focus on what people are saying and actually learn something.

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