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Daddy - 7/8/2006 9:15:24 AM

tbear4759

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I have met a couple girls here who want a Daddy. I am new to this stuff. how would being a Daddy be different than being a Dom or master?

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 9:25:30 AM

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In my limited experience, it has always come across to me as an age play thing. Daddy's lil girls been bad and needs discipline or love, what have you. I've tried it once or twice, it's fun. But it's doesn't come across as such a Master/Dom roleplay. It has its own set of dynamics.

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 9:31:22 AM

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A Dom is a short term to define a Male that is in the dominate role.
There is ownership as a MASTER and there is no ownrship as a DADDY

I am a Master to my slave I owner and am incontrol of her daily actions .She serves me with no questions .
I am as well a Daddy to a bio boy and girl I do not own either yet Iam responsible for them as they serve and learn through me .They all are collared to me -yes .But the slave is in a lifetime of service contract .The boy and gurl are in a service and growth contract .
As a Daddy is a bit less strict than a master .Daddy is just as a daddy would handle a child if in your heart you have patience ,mentoring skills, and nurturing .

A Master is one that is strict and all that the Master desires he obtains in a slave .A Master HAS higher expectations from a slave not a submissive ,not a gurl .

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 9:34:02 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tbear4759

I have met a couple girls here who want a Daddy. I am new to this stuff. how would being a Daddy be different than being a Dom or master?

It is different than being a Master or a Sir, but these roles are not mutually exclusive to the Daddy/girl paradigm. I have a Daddy Dom, and yes a Daddy can still be a dominant. It is a different way of relating than being a master in that it can be more of a nurturing thing. Sometimes age play becomes a part of the dynamic in that the submissive needs to regress to an earlier state of her life associated with puberty or childhood, the dominant facilitates this role play. It is often a safe place for the submissive to go back to for whatever reason.

Many of these relationships are just for the protective and nurturing feeling a submissive feels for a father-type authority figure which she many trust more than a master type figure. Fathers are often safer than other men.. not that she sees you as a father to her, just as perhaps a fatherly type.

In my dynamic it is more of a feeling of closeness to it than a master type relationship in that a Daddy loves you as more than property in my mind (this is just my feelings on the matter, not saying that this is so.. so do not flame me for my perceptions of what works for me). It means that the authority dynamic is different too.

Just my thoughts on it and I am sure there are many other thoughts too...

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 9:37:08 AM

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According to whom is there no "ownership" with a Daddy/girl relationship? Is there some BDSM Ds rule to this? If so, could you direct me to it? My Daddy and I have discussed collaring, collaring denotes his ownership of me, I was unaware that there was some taboo against it.

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 9:55:09 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

ORIGINAL: tbear4759

I have met a couple girls here who want a Daddy. I am new to this stuff. how would being a Daddy be different than being a Dom or master?

It is different than being a Master or a Sir, but these roles are not mutually exclusive to the Daddy/girl paradigm. I have a Daddy Dom, and yes a Daddy can still be a dominant. It is a different way of relating than being a master in that it can be more of a nurturing thing. Sometimes age play becomes a part of the dynamic in that the submissive needs to regress to an earlier state of her life associated with puberty or childhood, the dominant facilitates this role play. It is often a safe place for the submissive to go back to for whatever reason.

Many of these relationships are just for the protective and nurturing feeling a submissive feels for a father-type authority figure which she many trust more than a master type figure. Fathers are often safer than other men.. not that she sees you as a father to her, just as perhaps a fatherly type.

In my dynamic it is more of a feeling of closeness to it than a master type relationship in that a Daddy loves you as more than property in my mind (this is just my feelings on the matter, not saying that this is so.. so do not flame me for my perceptions of what works for me). It means that the authority dynamic is different too.

Just my thoughts on it and I am sure there are many other thoughts too...

I agree with a lot of Julia's post above.
I have a Daddy Dom, who is my Master as well. I am collared to Him. For me, I have called Him Daddy from almost the beginning of O/our relationship, and funnily enough, most of my friends who are very vanilla and have no idea of WIITWD, call Him that when they talk to me. ("How's Daddy doing?" "What are you and Papa Bear doing tonight?" etc...) It kinda makes me giggle. It started out as a nick-name or term of endearment, and it stuck. When W/we became a D/s couple, and then M/s, it stayed as the people W/we are is the same, but the dynamics of the relationship have changed. I do as He says and He knows that I am His, no doubt, or I would never have taken His collar.

W/we do not do age play. It is just that a Daddy seems very nurturing and warm to me, and more of a teacher than a very strict Master. However, that being said, there have been one or two times where He steps completely out of the Daddy role and becomes a strict Master when I have screwed up miserably, no hold barred. (yikes! I try to limit those times to zero... don't like it.)

In my opinion, Daddys can be Masters. It's all in what you make of your play and your relationship. My Beloved may be my Daddy Bear, inducing all those "warm and fuzzy" feelings, but there is never any doubt that He is my Master and I do as He chooses, and trust in Him implicitly. That's just my two cents worth.

Be well...

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 9:59:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: sirdontre

A Dom is a short term to define a Male that is in the dominate role.
There is ownership as a MASTER and there is no ownrship as a DADDY
As a Daddy is a bit less strict than a master .Daddy is just as a daddy would handle a child if in your heart you have patience ,mentoring skills, and nurturing .

A Master is one that is strict and all that the Master desires he obtains in a slave .A Master HAS higher expectations from a slave not a submissive ,not a gurl .

Actually i've seen some relationships that are the exact opposite. They use the terms Master and Daddy interchangably, and in all cases considered them owning/or being owned. There were, of course, obvious differences, but that was due to their own unique needs and coupleness, as well as what they each brought to the table in the beginning. i've seen Masters be less strict with slaves and Daddy's very strict with their "little one". Imho the best Master and/or Dominant makes the time tobe patient ,mentor the skills that are important to him, and nurtures his sub/slave/lil one. It simply depends on their dynamics and what each wants and needs. While you made a couple of good points in your post, i thought there were generalizations that can make it difficult for people who are just beginning their exploration a D/s or M/s type relationships.

i guess there were two things that initially drew me in to this way journey. What i saw in those i had the priviledge of knowing had a deeper level of communication, trust and inate fairness between the, but that's generalizing quite a bit too, i think.

The second thing that drew me in was the idea that there didn't seem to be any wrong or correct way to have a relationship. i'm not talking about safety police type issues here, but the way of their coupleness itself.

as usual, ymmv

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 10:04:16 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sirdontre

A Dom is a short term to define a Male that is in the dominate role.
There is ownership as a MASTER and there is no ownrship as a DADDY

I am a Master to my slave I owner and am incontrol of her daily actions .She serves me with no questions .
I am as well a Daddy to a bio boy and girl I do not own either yet Iam responsible for them as they serve and learn through me .They all are collared to me -yes .But the slave is in a lifetime of service contract .The boy and gurl are in a service and growth contract .
As a Daddy is a bit less strict than a master .Daddy is just as a daddy would handle a child if in your heart you have patience ,mentoring skills, and nurturing .

A Master is one that is strict and all that the Master desires he obtains in a slave .A Master HAS higher expectations from a slave not a submissive ,not a gurl .

According to your post SD, my relationship with Daddy/Master is invalid.
I understand that this is just your opinion, and am glad that W/we do not define O/our roles and relationship as such. O/our relationship has been a wonderful progression.

There is no doubt that my Beloved is all that and more to me... Daddy, Sir, Master... I am His babygirl, His sub, His slave... and one day, perhaps His wife. It has worked for U/us for three years, and I hope for many more to come.

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They use the terms Master and Daddy interchangably, and in all cases considered them owning/or being owned.

Thank you, jimini...

I may call Him Daddy or Master, one is the same as the other to U/us, as W/we know who W/we are...

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 10:04:42 AM

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I second Daddysredhead's post. Loki and I have this type of relationship as well, even in the vanilla years. I have always sought a father figure in my mates, and I think, for him the nurturing aspect, the taking care of me is what he enjoys. We don't do age play either. Our relationship just evolved naturally into the type of dynamic Daddysredhead spoke of.

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 10:17:23 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

quote:

ORIGINAL: sirdontre

A Dom is a short term to define a Male that is in the dominate role.
There is ownership as a MASTER and there is no ownrship as a DADDY

I am a Master to my slave I owner and am incontrol of her daily actions .She serves me with no questions .
I am as well a Daddy to a bio boy and girl I do not own either yet Iam responsible for them as they serve and learn through me .They all are collared to me -yes .But the slave is in a lifetime of service contract .The boy and gurl are in a service and growth contract .
As a Daddy is a bit less strict than a master .Daddy is just as a daddy would handle a child if in your heart you have patience ,mentoring skills, and nurturing .

A Master is one that is strict and all that the Master desires he obtains in a slave .A Master HAS higher expectations from a slave not a submissive ,not a gurl .

According to your post SD, my relationship with Daddy/Master is invalid.
I understand that this is just your opinion, and am glad that W/we do not define O/our roles and relationship as such. O/our relationship has been a wonderful progression.

There is no doubt that my Beloved is all that and more to me... Daddy, Sir, Master... I am His babygirl, His sub, His slave... and one day, perhaps His wife. It has worked for U/us for three years, and I hope for many more to come.

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quote:

They use the terms Master and Daddy interchangably, and in all cases considered them owning/or being owned.

Thank you, jimini...
I may call Him Daddy or Master, one is the same as the other to U/us, as W/we know who W/we are...

I can not speak to this specific dynamics as I have never lived it, but do find the variations facsenating. I doubt seriously Sirdonte, meant to imply his was the absoolute only way it could be done but was most likley speaking only from his own experince and veiws, much the way the other posters here have dione. At any rate I digress, thank you all this is a very intresting in the different views of the dynamics.

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 10:25:58 AM

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Though I personally do not get into the whole Daddy thing... to state one who has a "Daddy Dom" isn't owned.. i think there's gonna be arguments in this subject matter... I'll go put on fresh coffee....

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 11:31:28 AM

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Not a Daddys girl but believe that it is all about the relationship. Putting the tags or labels is great for some but each of us knows what are individual relationships are and how we feel about each other. Owned can be whatever the relationship is between the two. As a sub when i am with a Dom and we are playing i am owned during that stated time period. However although i am not owned all the time i may still obey One when not playing. Again that depends on the relationship. Smiles need some of that coffee plz true.

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 12:39:57 PM

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i think everyone pretty much agrees that there is not a "right" and "wrong" definition of any relationship. What works for one might not work for another. i call Master "Daddy" and it feels right for us. As with any sort of relationship, no one knows the entire dynamic except the two people involved.

In my world, Master and Daddy are interchangeable with the man i'm currently collared by. If/when we break up, the next relationship might not have any of the same vibes as the one i'm in now.

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 12:48:10 PM

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I agree with a lot of what DRH and julia's saying. Master and i just recently agreed for me to call him Daddy, along with Master. That doesn't make me any less owned because of it. I still wear his collar and i'm proud to be his little girl.

To say having a Daddy Dom means you're not owned in the same sense you would be owned by a Master is just plain ignorance.

BTW truesub4u, can i have some of that coffee? This is going to get good.

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 1:37:08 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tbear4759

I have met a couple girls here who want a Daddy. I am new to this stuff. how would being a Daddy be different than being a Dom or master?

Hate to complicate your bubble, but it gets worse.... everybody has a Daddy it seems.

Leather, gay/lesbian, D/s, M/s... lots of many differing groups have their own specific flavors and definitions of Daddy/Dom, and many are often staffed by Male or Female dominants.

No offense, but a babygirl can't suck a bull dyke Daddy's cock... strapon's and dildo's make lousy substitutes for pacifiers, but apparently their chosen dynamic supports a Daddy figure in it's structure.

Personally I always thought a Daddy has a real cock, anything else is mere word play and projectionism IMO, but that's just my take, lol

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 4:16:49 PM

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i can not put my finger on it, but just calling Him Daddy turns me on. maybe it's because i did not have a good relationship with my own father growing up. maybe its because im so attracted to Doms that project this image...i really dont know but i love being the babygirl and its not age play either.

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 5:31:34 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: NastyDaddy

quote:

ORIGINAL: tbear4759

I have met a couple girls here who want a Daddy. I am new to this stuff. how would being a Daddy be different than being a Dom or master?

Hate to complicate your bubble, but it gets worse.... everybody has a Daddy it seems.

Leather, gay/lesbian, D/s, M/s... lots of many differing groups have their own specific flavors and definitions of Daddy/Dom, and many are often staffed by Male or Female dominants.

No offense, but a babygirl can't suck a bull dyke Daddy's cock... strapon's and dildo's make lousy substitutes for pacifiers, but apparently their chosen dynamic supports a Daddy figure in it's structure.

Personally I always thought a Daddy has a real cock, anything else is mere word play and projectionism IMO, but that's just my take, lol

Gender is about more than cocks and cunts.

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 8:03:38 PM

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.. i think there's gonna be arguments in this subject matter... I'll go put on fresh coffee....

Well son of a biscuit, i was gonna bring the popcorn and peanuts, but we might need to save them for another post...lol

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 8:33:13 PM

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Gender is about more than cocks and cunts.
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I really really don like that word!!! and anyway I really want a daddy dom I need the safety involved the Dom Im talking with now has a Daddy Dom side which is one of the things that made me want to talk with him I cant explain it its just something safe there the loveing discapline the snuggles.....

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RE: Daddy - 7/8/2006 9:16:23 PM

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There is a theme I use plenty that explains me :
"Sir /Master to many , Daddy to few".

Yes ,the remarks that I stated are in regards my old guard teachings , my expereince ,and thoughts from elders of my past that practiced forms of traditions .

With the new generation much has had to be changed thru the years for many to find accomidating structure and protocols .
That is what makes this lifestyle very diverse and free living .

What defines any relationship is the dynamics that which it is rooted .
How one's relationship is handled should work best for it is of harmony that allows comfort for the parties involved .

In parting I will agree many Dom / Dommes are called Daddy / Mommy as well in age play .
Being a Master one can be called Daddy it is how it is used between the Master and the Slave .

Now . Please understand that in BDSM / KINK /LEATHER /FETISH gender is not the issue or of importance .For when a body is bare and the hands that touch that body with tools of our trade ,the mind is not concerned of a gender zone.
Plenty ppl in this way of life live it daily therefore headspace is always present to some level .So if it's about genitals that discribes one that gives or recieve the headspace then ...We are all out of luck in achieving our pleasent level of serinity .

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