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"At Least Its Not Obama" BULLSHIT!!! - 5/21/2014 3:22:33 PM   
CobaltRose


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Dear lord, I am so sick of the political arguments that get down to "at least he isnt Obama" no matter how worse the other candidate may be, all of that is wiped away just because "he isnt that other guy" No. Fuck no. I have a dream, that one day politicians will be judge by the content of their character, and not their political party.

Sorry if this was a bit of a rant.
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RE: "At Least Its Not Obama" BULLSHIT!!! - 5/22/2014 4:20:47 AM   
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I couldn't agree more. Makes about as much sense as saying, "Anybody but Bush."

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RE: "At Least Its Not Obama" BULLSHIT!!! - 5/22/2014 4:34:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CobaltRose
Dear lord, I am so sick of the political arguments that get down to "at least he isnt Obama" no matter how worse the other candidate may be, all of that is wiped away just because "he isnt that other guy" No. Fuck no. I have a dream, that one day politicians will be judge by the content of their character, and not their political party.
Sorry if this was a bit of a rant.


I completely agree. I doubt it happens in my lifetime. Maybe my boys will get to see it happen.


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RE: "At Least Its Not Obama" BULLSHIT!!! - 5/22/2014 6:08:30 AM   
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Well GWB was one of the worst Presidents of all time -- making the list of TOP TEN WORST PRESIDENTS in surveys that include political scientists and historians. He was a President who helped clusterfuck the economy, the US balance sheet, and its foreign policy -- for me a once in a life time trifecta.

If someone is not GWB, I breathe a huge sigh of relief.

(1) He appointed Karl Rove as chief of staff -- the first time a strict political operative -- ran the White House. Instead of helping the country -- he remained obsessed with political advantages and agendas.

(2) Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeldt, Karl Rove and GWB have all failed to take any ownership of their mistakes -- holding a sociopathic disregard for the lives lost and damage done to the USA.

(3) The Republican Party itself -- instead of learning from its failures and trying to reform has doubled down on extremism and inflexibility. The Party shows the ultimate sign of denial and political insanity by remaining focused on Benghazi and ignoring past torture abuses and the malfeasance in IRAQ and Afghanistan. In foreign policy terms -- its like the party focusing on the US Post Office and the National Endowment for Arts when it comes to balancing the US budget.

Look what else tops their agenda: VOTER ID LAWS, Stripping away Campaign Finance Laws, Trying to roll back Financial regulation, Denial of Climate Change, Trying to roll back women's access to contraception, Gerrymandering, and repeal of ACA without providing a palatable altnernative.

So in many ways GWB lives on --- more scary than ever.



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RE: "At Least Its Not Obama" BULLSHIT!!! - 5/22/2014 8:40:44 AM   
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Well GWB was one of the worst Presidents of all time -- making the list of TOP TEN WORST PRESIDENTS in surveys that include political scientists and historians. He was a President who helped clusterfuck the economy, the US balance sheet, and its foreign policy -- for me a once in a life time trifecta.

If someone is not GWB, I breathe a huge sigh of relief.

(1) He appointed Karl Rove as chief of staff -- the first time a strict political operative -- ran the White House. Instead of helping the country -- he remained obsessed with political advantages and agendas.

(2) Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeldt, Karl Rove and GWB have all failed to take any ownership of their mistakes -- holding a sociopathic disregard for the lives lost and damage done to the USA.

(3) The Republican Party itself -- instead of learning from its failures and trying to reform has doubled down on extremism and inflexibility. The Party shows the ultimate sign of denial and political insanity by remaining focused on Benghazi and ignoring past torture abuses and the malfeasance in IRAQ and Afghanistan. In foreign policy terms -- its like the party focusing on the US Post Office and the National Endowment for Arts when it comes to balancing the US budget.

Look what else tops their agenda: VOTER ID LAWS, Stripping away Campaign Finance Laws, Trying to roll back Financial regulation, Denial of Climate Change, Trying to roll back women's access to contraception, Gerrymandering, and repeal of ACA without providing a palatable altnernative.

So in many ways GWB lives on --- more scary than ever.




Same thing with Liberals, only with more Liberal focused ideas like a society where people dont have to work for a living. And dont get me wrong i am FARRRRRR from Conservative. I just think its better to give the homeless opportunity than straight up money. Give a homeless person $1 dollar, it will only last him a day. Give a homeless person a job, he will eventually have enough money to get a home.

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RE: "At Least Its Not Obama" BULLSHIT!!! - 5/22/2014 8:22:27 PM   
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Same thing with Liberals, only with more Liberal focused ideas like a society where people dont have to work for a living. And dont get me wrong i am FARRRRRR from Conservative. I just think its better to give the homeless opportunity than straight up money. Give a homeless person $1 dollar, it will only last him a day. Give a homeless person a job, he will eventually have enough money to get a home.


I think that's a pretty empty statement devoid of content. Can you mention anyone in particular or a specific policy?

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RE: "At Least Its Not Obama" BULLSHIT!!! - 5/22/2014 8:30:13 PM   
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..a society where people dont have to work for a living.

Oh heaven forbid! That kind of society sounds horrible, Western society would surely fall apart if we didn't all have jobs. It'll be absolute death and destruction just like it was from the beginning of time right up until 100 years ago, when everybody in the Western world transitioned into a life of working for a paycheck. It was only then that we finally became a stable and healthy species. All thanks to the decision that everybody would have a job, a student loan, and a mortgage. I join you in your cry: "more jobs and work for all!"

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RE: "At Least Its Not Obama" BULLSHIT!!! - 5/22/2014 9:37:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CobaltRose
..a society where people dont have to work for a living.

Oh heaven forbid! That kind of society sounds horrible, Western society would surely fall apart if we didn't all have jobs. It'll be absolute death and destruction just like it was from the beginning of time right up until 100 years ago, when everybody in the Western world transitioned into a life of working for a paycheck. It was only then that we finally became a stable and healthy species. All thanks to the decision that everybody would have a job, a student loan, and a mortgage. I join you in your cry: "more jobs and work for all!"

Ok, maybe i said it wrong i meant to say a soceity where people just wait for things to be simply given to them, i think people need to earn things past basic necessities. People need to not be complacent. Nothing is free.

A socialist society would work in a small, tribal setting or a close knit community, but an entire country can not support socialism. People arent inherently equal in terms of what they deserve, they just deserve equal OPPORTUNITY. Whether or not they take advantage of that opportunity is up to them. Will they work hard to get to the place they want to be, or will they just wait for mommy government to feed them and change them and give them what they want?

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