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Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus?


I'm a Domme and I desire cunnilingus.
  20% (9)
I'm a Domme and I do not desire cunnilingus.
  13% (6)
I'm a submissive and I desire cunnilingus.
  17% (8)
I'm a submissive and I do not desire cunnilingus.
  37% (17)
I'm a Switch and I desire cunnilingus.
  8% (4)
I'm a Switch and I do not desire cunnilingus.
  2% (1)


Total Votes : 45
(last vote on : 5/27/2014 7:38:45 AM)
(Poll ended: 5/28/2014 11:59:00 AM)


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tj444 -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 6:26:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

Any guy who has ever tried cunni on me has given up after I didn't cum after an hour. What's funny is that I tell these guys that it's not going to do anything for me and that it has never made me cum, but they all insist that it was always my partner's fault and obviously my other partners just didn't know what they were doing....but of course HE is an expert and he WILL make me cum.


there is such a thing as performance anxiety (not only do you need to cum but that you need to cum like a porn star!).. for me its partly that, especially if the guy thinks he is an "expert" (eye roll).. the other part is that guys are always too f'n rough on me (even when I tell them that and to be gentle) so when a guy wants to do that all I think of is "ouch.. get away from me!".. The reality is that men have inadvertently trained me to dislike it..




FieryOpal -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 6:48:56 AM)

Definitely makes my Top 10 List.

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ORIGINAL: undistilled

This is the most depressing thing I've ever read. It just shocks me that apparently so many kinky guys have no effing clue what they're doing when they go down on a woman.
<snip>

You would think those of us who are kinky would make better lovers and/or be less sexually inhibited, but that isn't the case at all. Which is pretty sad, because going vanilla can be a desolate wasteland. [:-] There are men who love pussy, and there are those who just want to use pussy and/or use women for whatever suits their purpose, whether BDSM kinky, vanilla-kinky, or strictly vanilla.
Even the ones who profess to love going down on a woman, who may have discovered at some point that they could bring a woman to orgasm this way, may not be that good at it. And kinky guys, oral sex slaves are a dime a dozen. If you aren't much good at it, yet you've put all your eggs in one basket (as is often what happens, being deficit in other areas of sexual performance), you aren't even a one-trick pony.

IMO if a guy hasn't figured out what he's doing sexual performance-wise by the time he's in his 30's, assuming he's been at this for about a decade or more, he just isn't the kind of erotic lover I would want. (It's not as if I'm in my 20's or 30's anymore and can put my sex life on hold while I go about training somebody from scratch, other than just tweaking and finetuning things here and there.)

I can see how this would be awkward for a submissive woman to have to instruct her lover how she likes it, what feels good to her, and how she wants it done.
But is it really fair to expect for a man, any man, to read a woman's mind and not rely on positive feedback? Does being submissive mean you take a backseat (no pun intended) in the love-making dept. and cease to become an active participant?
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Being submissive has nothing to do with being passive. No interactive Dominant wants a passive submissive partner, and few subs wanted to be treated like a doormat either.

BecomingV, I concur that if a full-grown man can't respond to feminine pheromones as designed, then he has other issues going on. Perhaps these men you and smileforme50 are referring to are oblivious to how their own undescended balls reek of badly aged cheese or other unsavory scents themselves. [:o] In a truly intimately bonded relationship which goes beyond just-another-warm-body syndrome, neither partner should be so self-conscious that they can't fully enjoy one another's bodies in every aspect, [mis]perceptions of dominance and submission be damned.




BossyShoeBitch -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 7:00:29 AM)

I can't speak for anyone but myself and my answer is:

HELL YES!




tj444 -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 8:20:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

But is it really fair to expect for a man, any man, to read a woman's mind and not rely on positive feedback?


it should be no different for a guy than it is for me to "read" a guys mind when giving a bj.. But when I do that to a guy I pride myself on doing an excellent job (if not the very best he has ever had but then at least in the top 5)... so I try really hard and I do sometimes ask if he likes when I do this or that, but mostly I watch his body, how he physically reacts, how he moans, what I am doing to make him moan (there is usually a correlation lol), I look up at his face to see what his face is telling me (if his eyes are rolled back I am doing good! lol).. and after he cums, does he like me to stop or keep going (some men are too sensitive so want me to stop).. honestly, why cant a guy do the same to learn what works for her? It takes time, watching for the signs and experimenting and the guy has to be into doing that to find her buttons, especially the buttons she may not know she has..

One difference between me and most men is that when I am giving a bj I like to stretch it out & vary what I do & tease them but not let them cum until I am ready, seems to me most men don't do that when doing oral on a woman/me, they start fast to finish fast so they can get theirs.. [&o]




DaddySatyr -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 8:24:30 AM)

There's no appropriate answer for me up there so, I am "forced" to answer here:

Because of health issues, I have been forced to give up ingesting many things but, when I can no longer eat pussy, life is truly over.







Screen captures still RULE! Ya feel me?




FieryOpal -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 8:47:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

... when I can no longer eat pussy, life is truly over.


LOL, Rock On with your bad self! [;)]

Oh, and tj444, not all of us are intuitively sensitive lovers. Although there are exceptions *yay*, men tend to be a bit dense in the self-motivation and/or adaptability area when it comes to pleasing a woman, and I know what you mean by "untrainable." These are guys who are only going through the motions, who are clueless when it comes to developing love-making skills. Ten-twenty years later and there are husbands who still refuse to be properly domesticated, assuming their marriages haven't fallen apart at the seams yet or are hanging by a thread.

Btw, I'm sure you and the other ladies who have posted here who don't care to receive orally from every Tom, Dick & Harry who wants to dive between your legs (and who would, except a very desperate woman) have given it a shot. It will take a very special lover to awaken those desires, if ever. My comments were mainly of a general nature to others perusing this discussion topic and poll results.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 8:55:59 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

Oh, and tj444, not all of us are intuitively sensitive lovers. Although there are exceptions *yay*, men tend to be a bit dense in the self-motivation and/or adaptability area when it comes to pleasing a woman, and I know what you mean by "untrainable."



Ya know, there's a flip-side to this ...

I have run into any number of ladies that tell me that they give the best blowjobs EVER .

Unfortunately, it usually turns out that they've fallen into one of the oldest misrepresentations ... EVER .

Ladies: most men lie. When you give a man a blowjob, there's two schools of thought:

1) There's no such thing as a bad blowjob (I disagree).

2) Even though it wasn't all that good, it's a blowjob and I want more of them from her so, I'll schmooze her.

Of all the "best blowjobs" I've ever had, only four ladies truly stand out in my mind.

You KNOW it was a good blowjob, when you have to pull the bed sheets out of your ass crack!







Screen captures still RULE! Ya feel me?




tj444 -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 11:40:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

Oh, and tj444, not all of us are intuitively sensitive lovers. Although there are exceptions *yay*, men tend to be a bit dense in the self-motivation and/or adaptability area when it comes to pleasing a woman, and I know what you mean by "untrainable."



Ya know, there's a flip-side to this ...

I have run into any number of ladies that tell me that they give the best blowjobs EVER .

Unfortunately, it usually turns out that they've fallen into one of the oldest misrepresentations ... EVER .

Ladies: most men lie. When you give a man a blowjob, there's two schools of thought:

1) There's no such thing as a bad blowjob (I disagree).

2) Even though it wasn't all that good, it's a blowjob and I want more of them from her so, I'll schmooze her.

Of all the "best blowjobs" I've ever had, only four ladies truly stand out in my mind.

You KNOW it was a good blowjob, when you have to pull the bed sheets out of your ass crack!




Sure guys lie & shame on you for schmoozing women!!! A few guys couldn't even move or stand up after I was thru with them.. their legs were jello.. I must have a sadist streak in me cuz that made me happy and smile inside.. [sm=evil.gif] While men may think bjs are a submissive thing to do, for me it was actually a power trip.. I was the one that was in control and decided when he was gonna finally cum.. and I liked to play with my prey.. make it suffer.. it amused me.. [:D]




PeonForHer -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 12:40:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: poise

I have been in a wonderful committed relationship with the same amazing man going on forever now. (27 years!)
Yet, while he knows how to push all my buttons, and does, cunnilingus is not something I desire.
While I can and do enjoy it on a physical level, I have the hardest time getting in the right head space for it.
I am a submissive, and it may be that I see this as him performing for me, which is awkward, even after all these years.


I'm a malesub, as you know, but I have no trouble at all seeing cunnilingus as a dominant thing to do. Symbolised by the word 'eating'. I mean, seriously, if a man were to pick you up, place you on a table and devour you like some juicy fruit, there'd be no dominant vibes from him that you could tune into? Gawd. Well, one thing I can say confidently: cunnilingus in femdom porn is *never* done that way.




tj444 -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 1:55:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Gawd. Well, one thing I can say confidently: cunnilingus in femdom porn is *never* done that way.

Ok, so how is it done? what is done differently?




PeonForHer -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 3:27:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Gawd. Well, one thing I can say confidently: cunnilingus in femdom porn is *never* done that way.

Ok, so how is it done? what is done differently?


Well, from what hear from friends who watch femdom porn avidly (*waves hand in a vague and offhand manner*): She orders him. She's lying or sitting there. She grabs his head and pushes it between her legs. She makes a point of having her head much higher than his - if she isn't, in fact, standing while he's kneeling. She holds him by the hair and may even slap his head now and then. It *looks* like he's servicing her.

One of my exes was a sub. Cunnilingus that way did nothing for her. It wouldn't have occurred to me even to try it, actually. On the other hand, if I picked her up, threw her on the bed, pushed up her legs and then dived in - that was entirely different. "Your vagina belongs to me, I'm hungry, and I'm going to eat it." That kind of thing.




smileforme50 -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 6:40:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2


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ORIGINAL: smileforme50
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I'm also convinced that this is the main reason 80% of the "Doms" out there call themselves "Dom"....because they think if they find a woman who calls herself "submissive" then that automatically means she will give them unlimited oral without protest or complaint.


Oh hell yes! Though I was thinking more like 90%.



Actually....I was really thinking it was closer to 95%....but I wanted to be nice.




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 6:50:58 PM)

Oh, we're being honest? Then 99.8%
[:D]




smileforme50 -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 7:01:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

Oh, we're being honest? Then 99.8%
[:D]


[sm=rofl.gif]




tj444 -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 7:21:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Gawd. Well, one thing I can say confidently: cunnilingus in femdom porn is *never* done that way.

Ok, so how is it done? what is done differently?


Well, from what hear from friends who watch femdom porn avidly (*waves hand in a vague and offhand manner*): She orders him. She's lying or sitting there. She grabs his head and pushes it between her legs. She makes a point of having her head much higher than his - if she isn't, in fact, standing while he's kneeling. She holds him by the hair and may even slap his head now and then. It *looks* like he's servicing her.


hmmm.. I like the holding him by his hair bit.. [:)]




FieryOpal -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/23/2014 10:14:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444
quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444

Ok, so how is it done? what is done differently?

Well, from what hear from friends who watch femdom porn avidly (*waves hand in a vague and offhand manner*): She orders him. She's lying or sitting there. She grabs his head and pushes it between her legs. She makes a point of having her head much higher than his - if she isn't, in fact, standing while he's kneeling. She holds him by the hair and may even slap his head now and then. It *looks* like he's servicing her.

hmmm.. I like the holding him by his hair bit.. [:)]

Me too, which is why I can't do bald-headed guys.

Ugh, FemDom porn. Sometimes the male slave is lying there restrained, and his Mistress squats over his face. When the face-sitting gets more aggressive and squashing, then it's called queening.
He may or may not have on a dildo gag while she facefucks him in stiletto heels.
Then there can be a scene where he has his nose shoved up her butt crack, while he tags along like a dog behind her to and from the bathroom.
This stuff is all geared toward male fetishes and kinks. Dominant women are either depicted as sadistic Bitches or disinterested in being serviced.




PeonForHer -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/24/2014 4:16:23 AM)

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Dominant women are either depicted as sadistic Bitches or disinterested in being serviced.


True about 'disinterested in being serviced'. That's always been a passion-killer for me.




FieryOpal -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/24/2014 2:38:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
quote:

[FieryOpal]

Dominant women are either depicted as sadistic Bitches or disinterested while being serviced.

True about 'disinterested in being serviced'. That's always been a passion-killer for me.

(Fixed it--that's how I should have phrased it.)

So Peon, does this mean that Dominant women acting like sadistic Bitches gives you wood? [8D]




PeonForHer -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/24/2014 3:26:07 PM)

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So Peon, does this mean that Dominant women acting like sadistic Bitches gives you wood?


Can do, yes.




slavekate80 -> RE: Do Most CM Women Desire Cunnilingus? (5/24/2014 9:03:23 PM)

Hate it, and it's almost a hard limit for me. In casual relationships, it is a hard limit. For something long-term and serious, I'd submit if he demanded it once or twice, if I was completely sure it was purely for his benefit and not for me. But I'd still be counting the seconds to distract myself until he gets bored.




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