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freedomdwarf1 -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 11:59:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Thank God the center of the world and intellectual thought is the western world.

Methinks confuscious and the Tibetan monks might claim something a tad different [:D][:D]




Musicmystery -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 12:06:17 PM)

No, no -- they 'splained it to me.

All that history of Islamic science? Didn't really happen. Like the holocaust.

And these posters are like experts on world history. They know everything!




DomKen -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 12:18:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like you are saying most of the stuff you have seen has been done with plants but there were others studies on water crystals. I don't see anything that implies you do or don't believe the studies.

That's very true. I simply found it interesting. The effects of conscious intention are documented (see here). Prayer not so much. But it's difficult to get a firm handle on the subject. In particular, managing adequate controls poses a thorny problem (see here). Ken is just being his usual lying self when he claims I believe that prayer makes pretty crystals. But if you look at the broad sweep of data in the various areas of Psi research, it does seem to me to be abundantly clear that something is going on. And that in itself is enough to provoke Ken to behave like an agitated priest bent on eradicating heresy.
So IOW you as usual won't make a positive statement of any kind. so very brave of you. Dumbass.

I at least will make positive statements. Such as that you are a liar.


Really, what did he lie about? Can you provide links showing where he lied? Or is this another one of your lies like the one where he believes prayer makes ice pretty. But I will agree with one thing. You do make positive statements....it's backing them up that gives you problems.

I posted many links to his approving comments supporting a study that claims that prayer makes water pretty. Now maybe a monumental dumbass cannot understand that that means he believes the study but the rest of us understood it just fine.




HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 12:28:31 PM)

Here is an example.

http://reason.com/archives/2014/05/30/when-the-left-turned-against-f

I think it's funny you can't see yourselves so I'm holding up a mirror for you.




HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 12:34:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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So Tweak, a three thousand year old philosopher should be something to ponder. His offering discusses the natural mind of men. Nothing exceptional was revealed in his statement, yet it's relevant three thousand years after the statement. It helps us to be introspective in our lives so that we can throw off the yoke of those who serve Kool Aid to us.

It is just pure bullshit to rely on the words of a 3000 year old man unless you are Mel Brooks.


And yet, you reference Plato just a few quotes up.




HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 12:46:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

OK. I'm just tired of arguing this point with a half dozen of you.

Arabs suck, Islam sucks, they wouldn't know science if it bite 'em in the ass, poor backwards slobs, always have been, always will be.

Better?

Meanwhile, in the modern west, half the population continues its century old campaign to deny science . . .

Glad we're the smart ones!

[8|]



Who is that denying what science?




Musicmystery -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 12:50:21 PM)

And we have a winner! No more calls, please.





HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 12:59:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

OK. I'm just tired of arguing this point with a half dozen of you.

Arabs suck, Islam sucks, they wouldn't know science if it bite 'em in the ass, poor backwards slobs, always have been, always will be.

Better?

Meanwhile, in the modern west, half the population continues its century old campaign to deny science . . .

Glad we're the smart ones!

[8|]


Maybe this science?

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/05/the-settled-science-of-polar-bears.php





Musicmystery -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 1:09:11 PM)

Evolution never happened either, I'm told.

The world is a very simple place. People lived with the dinosaurs.

Thank God you geniuses are here to 'splain it to me!

Much gratitude.





mnottertail -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 1:09:50 PM)

A nutsacker blog is certainly settled science. It is lies based on creating this thing called 'leftists' and creating this thing they 'say all the time' which they dont, it is an ineffective smear by way of strawman. (settled ubiquitously, without let or hindrance.)

I mean we understand they say stupid shit, no need to point out every incident.





HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 1:10:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And we have a winner! No more calls, please.





Actually, sorry. I thought you were holding your own in your discussion so I wasn't tying together your thread. I had to go back and reference your discussion. I now see and accept your point.




HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 1:12:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

A nutsacker blog is certainly settled science. It is lies based on creating this thing called 'leftists' and creating this thing they 'say all the time' which they dont, it is an ineffective smear by way of strawman. (settled ubiquitously, without let or hindrance.)

I mean we understand they say stupid shit, no need to point out every incident.




Thanks jester, you forward my points so well. Now take your meds.




thompsonx -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 1:17:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

Here is an example.

http://reason.com/archives/2014/05/30/when-the-left-turned-against-f

I think it's funny you can't see yourselves so I'm holding up a mirror for you.



College professor tears up protest sign in altercation with a 16 year old demonstrator...When the cops sick the dogs on them and open up with water cannon give me a shout.




HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 1:17:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Evolution never happened either, I'm told.

The world is a very simple place. People lived with the dinosaurs.

Thank God you geniuses are here to 'splain it to me!

Much gratitude.




While I've never read a "There is no evolution textbook" and have no opinion on that. I do note that Darwinism and evolution per se do not explain the origin of life. It explains how an already existent life evolves to deal with stress.


Additionally, there has been some fascinating microbiology studies that suggest Darwinism may not be the total solution to evaluation. I'll leave you to google that. So, frankly, it doesn't mean a whole lot if you say either The Big Bang started life or Let There Be Light started life. Frankly we don't know and we all choose up sides and want our exclusive version told in school.




HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 1:19:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

Here is an example.

http://reason.com/archives/2014/05/30/when-the-left-turned-against-f

I think it's funny you can't see yourselves so I'm holding up a mirror for you.



College professor tears up protest sign in altercation with a 16 year old demonstrator...When the cops sick the dogs on them and open up with water cannon give me a shout.




So, you believe the thoughts and attitudes of the school and professors were righteous. Thanks for your input.




HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 1:22:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

A nutsacker blog is certainly settled science. It is lies based on creating this thing called 'leftists' and creating this thing they 'say all the time' which they dont, it is an ineffective smear by way of strawman. (settled ubiquitously, without let or hindrance.)

I mean we understand they say stupid shit, no need to point out every incident.





I believe names were named and no strawmen were created. You'll have to revise your diatribe. But, please, after yo take your meds.




thompsonx -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 1:23:50 PM)

ORIGINAL: HunterCA


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

Here is an example.

http://reason.com/archives/2014/05/30/when-the-left-turned-against-f

I think it's funny you can't see yourselves so I'm holding up a mirror for you.



College professor tears up protest sign in altercation with a 16 year old demonstrator...When the cops sick the dogs on them and open up with water cannon give me a shout.




So, you believe the thoughts and attitudes of the school and professors were righteous.

That would be an intentionally ignorant mischaracterization of my position.




mnottertail -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 1:26:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HunterCA


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

A nutsacker blog is certainly settled science. It is lies based on creating this thing called 'leftists' and creating this thing they 'say all the time' which they dont, it is an ineffective smear by way of strawman. (settled ubiquitously, without let or hindrance.)

I mean we understand they say stupid shit, no need to point out every incident.




Thanks jester, you forward my points so well. Now take your meds.


That is weapons grade fuckin stupid.

You got no points, you live in the nutsacker bizzaro world of hallucination and lies.

But there are many nutsackers suffering from Dunning-Kruger. These geysers of stupidity, who suffer the Dunning–Kruger effect which is a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to appreciate their mistakes. The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self. The effect is about paradoxical defects in cognitive ability, in oneself and others.

Despite very obviously not knowing what they are doing, they become surpassingly arrogant and refuse to admit they don’t know what they are doing. And the last few years have been unnaturally kind to America's willfully ignorant.

The commercial media has taken moron-coddling these cretins to a new level. Faux Nuze and such as Rush Limbaugh have provided aid, comfort, voice and encouragement to America's once (wisely) silent-and-moronic demographic, treating these maladroits diarrhetic cants as 'fair and balanced'. No longer an oxymoron, it's a growing political movement i.e., Palin, Bachmann, et al.

Now the dumb-and-dumbers out there not only believe the unbelievable, the unverifiable and the unreal, they believe it all with prideful swagger and aggressive obnoxiousness.


Morons beware. You will be challenged, and challenged publicly.

If you want to fight terrorists who have already caused more damage to America than bin Laden could dream of, then tackle the terror of politically empowered ignorance that's alive and well right here at home.






DomKen -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 1:27:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA
While I've never read a "There is no evolution textbook" and have no opinion on that. I do note that Darwinism and evolution per se do not explain the origin of life. It explains how an already existent life evolves to deal with stress.


Additionally, there has been some fascinating microbiology studies that suggest Darwinism may not be the total solution to evaluation. I'll leave you to google that. So, frankly, it doesn't mean a whole lot if you say either The Big Bang started life or Let There Be Light started life. Frankly we don't know and we all choose up sides and want our exclusive version told in school.

Since the Theory of Evolution doesn't explain "evaluation" in microbiology or anywhere else that should not be surprising. However the ToE remains the single unifying theory of biology.

BTW only dumbass creationists talk about "Darwinism." Are you a dumbass creationist?




mnottertail -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 1:31:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HunterCA


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

A nutsacker blog is certainly settled science. It is lies based on creating this thing called 'leftists' and creating this thing they 'say all the time' which they dont, it is an ineffective smear by way of strawman. (settled ubiquitously, without let or hindrance.)

I mean we understand they say stupid shit, no need to point out every incident.





I believe names were named and no strawmen were created. You'll have to revise your diatribe. But, please, after yo take your meds.



I don't believe you are a convicted child molester, just because some nutsacker blog says you are.





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