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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

It is simple.  We (men) can pee standing up without making a mess. 

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If you (women) learn to do it (pee standing up), then we (men) are in serious trouble.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

Aellea nice post ... women need to stop seeing other women as competition (and yes am sure this statement will have a few people saying that they don't) but from a sociological point of view it is very common. 

I agree 100%. It took alot of painful self examination before I could get out of that whole mindset. Reminds me of the phrase I read once. "Women do not dress up for men, they do it for other women." It had nothing to do with wanting to please the other women but to outdo them. Fortunately, at least with the women I am close to, maturity removes most of that competition and unites us in a way most men just cannot fathom.

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ORIGINAL: aellea

women can't be honest with men mostly and so men are totally baffled how to treat us or what to do. 

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  This thread really is unbelievable.  Do you people even think before you type?  I think the real question is, once we have enough eggs in freezers, do we really need women?  Women only enjoy the lifestyle and options they have in this day and age because of men.  If women ran the world we'd still be searching for the wheel. 

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MisSuz:  The trick is to aim with your fingers and remember to push at the end of the stream. Wipe as usual.

It's doable, very doable, and only takes a little practice.

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caretakr gave me the creeps with:  Taking this to it's logical conclusion.....let's just reengineer humans to be androgynous, sexless entities-do away with sex alltogether.

Everyone would be equal, and everyone would be the same.

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Stef:  It's a pity that more men don't choose to actually use this awesome power.  [;)]

~stef

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Or mabey living in Canada has spoiled me.

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Well yes, of COURSE women dress up to impress other women, men could care less! I could spend hours buying the perfect wonderful outfit, just the right color to match my skin tone and cut to accentuate my figure, get my nails and hair done etc... but if I looked really, REALLY great, the best I could hope for is that it would make him imagine me naked. *sigh*

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The trouble is they can't just do it gracefully. They have to snigger and swagger when you ask for help, acting like they're SOOO special because they can open a jar with one little "snick". Teasing and poking fun because you can't do it.

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Teasing and poking fun because you can't do it.

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ORIGINAL: aellea

you know, i think a lot of the crap women suffer is brought on by ourselves.  we don't stand together, we are contrary, ornery, we are predatory by nature, most have no morality i've learned and i just plain don't care for them.  women can't be honest with men mostly and so men are totally baffled how to treat us or what to do.  i'm not saying it's all our fault as they are obnoxious and mostly stinky but we do bring a lot of the misery we incur on ourselves.  again, it's one's own perspective and this is mine.  deny it if you will, that's your perogative!

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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

It is simple.  We (men) can pee standing up without making a mess.  You (women) can't.  I've seen you try (ever see an American woman faced with a filthy Asian toilet?  They almost FLY out of that squat.  But if they stand up...it isn't pretty and it involves a change of shoes.)  

If you (women) learn to do it (pee standing up), then we (men) are in serious trouble.

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

Let me start by saying I am having a bad day, so this is not a happy thread. I do not feel well, my arthritic back is acting up very badly, my gallbladder hurts and yes, it needs to be removed. I am also PMSing and yes, I own a gun   and no this has nothing to do with BDSM, it is just a frustrated Mistress letting off a bit of steam.

I made the mistake of listening to the news and it put me in an even worse state of mind then I was already in. The news story was about the rape of an Iraqi girl by American soldiers. Now I am not looking for political debate, an ethical debate or a religious one, or anything of that nature. I am not looking to flame or be flamed. I just want to bitch. I love men, so please do not think I am a man hater, for I am nothing of the kind. I have a male sub that I love with all my being.

It is just; when you as a woman look at the world today can you truly say that men have done a wonderful job in their so-called leadership roles? Am I the only one who some days wants to beat the living shit out of  nearly every alpha male she see's and not in a fun way?

You say you don't want a political thread, then you get political. Not every male leader is George Bush, and not everyone thinks he's a monster. What about the men in leadership posistions that work for peace?

Do you ever get sick and tired of hearing how women are supposed to be submissive to men and to let them rule things, when most of them cannot even rule a pet hamster?

Just about the only ones I hear this from are muslim; the christian version have softened their beliefs, or so it seems, with time.

Do you ever want to scream stop raping and killing us (and our children) because you believe that it is your God given right to do so, or just because your physically stronger/bigger (not always) that you can get away with it?

Yes I do. Like I want to yell at the women who do this shit, like Andrea Yates, and Mary Kay Letourneu (sp?) Seems like you ladies are catching up with us.

Do you ever want to physically bash some guy who has beaten and or abused his wife/girlfriend in some fashion, then justifies it by saying that the bible (or whatever religion/philosophy) says its ok?

Yep, and the women who condone/put up with it. Or the women doing it. Most cases of female/male abuse aren't reported.

Do you ever feel the urge to choke the life out of a proven child molester when you see them on the news?

Yes, like Donna Lafave (sp?) in Florida. Or anyone else.

Do you seethe when you hear that women do not need equal rights or control of their own bodies IE abortion?

No, as I see abortion as killing.

Do you ever get angry with other women who seemingly blindly follow anything the patriarchal system instructs her too?

Yes.

Do you ever feel that all the men should be gathered up and put into cages and only let out for breeding purposes and drone work?

Only benji [:)] (just kidding, bud). Only as much as I feel all blacks should, or jews, or hispanics. Or women. Anyone thinking that "all men" are anything is a bigot.

~Lashra

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ORIGINAL: KarbonCopy

I find it funny that constantly women are looking at men in a dark light.


Im a man. I work hard, I provide for my household without question, I make sure my family is taken care of, and I have never even been in a fight.

I've never hit a woman, I've never raped anyone. Sure I've yelled, but so has she. Does that make me useless?

I contribute to society by helping in devolpment of our industries.

Should I be locked away and denied my right to live my life?

I resent the fact that all the rape, the abuse, the history of voilence and oppresion falls on my shoulders. Thats bullshit. Actually straight up ignorant.

Do I condone rape? no.
Do I condone abuse, even if she's being "insubordinant" as the argument usually goes? no.

Do I think people should work together regardless of sex? yes.

This whole, female superiority crap has to end. A person can be superior, not a gender. Look past your own nose for a change. Or stop watching TV, whichever will help you step out of your home and take another look at society.
Or mabey living in Canada has spoiled me.


Mabey I came off harsh in this post, but it erks me because I personally have a problem with older males. I always have even as a child. I couldnt even form a bond with my own drunk of a father.

But its because of these men, and their faults that have given me a role model of what not to be like. I have choices in my life to make myself, and I chose to be the better person.
I choose not to stop my girlfriend from going out because i'm a jealous asshole.
I choose to carry the grocieries up for her because I know they're heavy and thats my job.
I choose to open the pickle jars because I'm stronger.

We work together, with her rational mind she takes care of the finances, I take care of the work. Though she has a job, I work full time as a tradesman while we pay for her to go to school to better herself.

I dont drink in excess and make her unhappy like my father did to my mother.
I dont yell at her, throw shit around and punch holes in the wall so that she cries herself to sleep, like my father did to my mother ( he never hit her).
I am just as useful as any one of you, and I have just as much to contribute to society.


I'm not even going to go into the whole women are manipulative, and back-stabbing crap argument. I just wanted to say my peace, and mention one more thing.

I'd like to thank my mother who raised me as a single mother most of my life, and did her best with the little she had.

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

Oh, yeah, Lashra, I feel this way a lot of the time.

But the people I get most angry with are the mothers and fathers who raise sons like this and with women who "stand by their men" when they behave in this fashion. If women didn't teach and didn't support these negative behaviors (as you have recounted) then men and boys would not behave this way.

I know because I have two men who do not behave this way because they were raised to be good men who value others as much if not more than themselves.

Just my opinion and feeling of course.