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RE: Goat Milker - 7/13/2014 7:00:34 PM   
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the 10-15 atmospheres? Yup, but again, the milkers run 10-15 pounds, a typical human breast pump is 11-12 pounds right in the middle there.

So, one needs to be aware of units here.


The most a vacuum pump can ever pull on the surface of the earth is 1 atmosphere. Once a perfect vacuum is achieved, you only have the atmosphere providing pressure.

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RE: Goat Milker - 7/13/2014 7:20:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		All I've learned from both these threads is that milking is a hard limit.

Also if anyone could point me in the direction of some research on the emotional and hormonal effects of forced breast milking (aka- if there is no reason your body would be producing milk...). I assume this has to happen for medical reasons- I'd be curious to know what it does to ones health.


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RE: Goat Milker - 7/14/2014 4:03:32 AM   
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All I've learned from both these threads is that milking is a hard limit.


Hopefully you've learned very little from these threads as they've consisted mostly of people pulling things out of their asses. Which is incidentally is one of the reasons why collarchat has the well deserved reputation for being useless: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga8bd31t3JI

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RE: Goat Milker - 7/14/2014 4:28:36 AM   
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If you think that something designed for an elongated animal teat belongs being used on humans, I second the suggestion to try it first on your own elongated body part that would fit in a goat milker much easier than a breast. After all, there's no reason not to if you are sure it is perfectly safe and that you don't need to consult a doctor first.


Actually that's also a thing though it typically requires some DIY. Here's a thread on it: Milking Machine

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RE: Goat Milker - 7/14/2014 7:15:56 AM   
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All I've learned from both these threads is that milking is a hard limit.


Hopefully you've learned very little from these threads as they've consisted mostly of people pulling things out of their asses. Which is incidentally is one of the reasons why collarchat has the well deserved reputation for being useless: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga8bd31t3JI



yea 7 minutes of some little girl whinging and crying because there are some guys on the Internet who only want to look at pics and wank. Oh dear god, tell me it aint true. And this is somehow cm's fault for not checking everyone who signs up to make sure they aren't just looking for an one night hook up and really want a solid relationship. The best advice she gave in this video was to just ignore the HGN's, it's just a shame she didn't do that.

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RE: Goat Milker - 7/14/2014 9:28:53 AM   
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yea 7 minutes of some little girl whinging and crying because there are some guys on the Internet who only want to look at pics and wank. Oh dear god, tell me it aint true.


No, according to the clip the HNG's amuse her, the whining part of the clip was about the attacks for not being twue.

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RE: Goat Milker - 7/14/2014 10:07:18 AM   
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Hopefully you've learned very little from these threads as they've consisted mostly of people pulling things out of their asses. Which is incidentally is one of the reasons why collarchat has the well deserved reputation for being useless: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga8bd31t3JI



Come on now, like any forum on the Internet you will get your share of good replies and bad replies to questions you may ask. I don't know what happened on the other thread, but if it is like most, I can understand the frustration, but after over 5000 posts here, you should already know what you may get.

Your goat milking kink or whatever it may be is certainly not my kink, but if it is yours, you are welcome to it. What I have read so far is no one particularly deriding you for your kink, but rather discussing the possible dangers of using a machine that is not designed for it. If you actually expected everyone to agree with you then you need to pay a bit more attention to what happens around here.

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RE: Goat Milker - 7/14/2014 12:56:50 PM   
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Come on now, like any forum on the Internet you will get your share of good replies and bad replies to questions you may ask. I don't know what happened on the other thread, but if it is like most, I can understand the frustration, but after over 5000 posts here, you should already know what you may get.

Every forum on the internet doesn't have the same ratio of good to bad replies. The same girl reviews fetlife and despite noting and being upset by some of the same issues there gives fetlife unlike this site her stamp of approval. I share that opinion, if I have a question on something this is SO not the site I post it at. For example check out the vast difference in reactions to the same picture over at fetlife: https://fetlife.com/users/958868/pictures/28545275

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Your goat milking kink or whatever it may be is certainly not my kink, but if it is yours, you are welcome to it.

I've got zero interest in the kink, I'm just aware that it does successfully exist.

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What I have read so far is no one particularly deriding you for your kink, but rather discussing the possible dangers of using a machine that is not designed for it.

POSSIBLE being the operative word there, none of us are experienced in this kink ergo have the experience to actually know and instead of directing the original OP toward a community who would know.....well he got a pile of scathing condemnation.

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RE: Goat Milker - 7/14/2014 1:34:26 PM   
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Every forum on the internet doesn't have the same ratio of good to bad replies. The same girl reviews fetlife and despite noting and being upset by some of the same issues there gives fetlife unlike this site her stamp of approval. I share that opinion, if I have a question on something this is SO not the site I post it at. For example check out the vast difference in reactions to the same picture over at fetlife: https://fetlife.com/users/958868/pictures/28545275


Oh come now, that girl is not the be all and end all of opinions and she certainly has no real firm grasp about the fact that she is on the Internet, on a kinky dating site and female and therefore open to more bullshit than say a male in the same position. I watched the video and found it quite stupid. Does she make a point or two, maybe, but I found her more naive than anything. As far as it meeting her approval, I am sure going to lose sleep over the fact that she doesn't like this site.

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POSSIBLE being the operative word there, none of us are experienced in this kink ergo have the experience to actually know and instead of directing the original OP toward a community who would know.....well he got a pile of scathing condemnation.


I am not certain that there is a community for the OP to search for in order to get better, more informed answers and perhaps they should have used Google, but they came here instead. I didn't read the original thread but the one thing that this community does do, and does well is discuss safety related to BDSM practices. Using a farm machine for a BDSM kink could certainly pose some serious risks, what those risks may be for humans is not possible to determine unless you are a doctor. You can speculate which is what has happened here, that is not condemning, it is speculation, and sometimes informed speculation. Imagine someone coming to this site and getting speculative answers... it happens quite a bit actually but such is the nature of our community because BDSM has a wide range of varying opinions, practices and possibilities. So, there may have been condemnation for a potentially unsafe practice but there again is the nature of this beast called the Internet. When one puts out a question on any site, one must be prepared to potentially get some rough replies to said question. My advice to Internet surfers that get all out of joint because of this roughness is to grow a thicker skin because, just like real life, not everyone is nice so deal with what applies to your situation and leave the rest for what it is worth, which in a lot of cases is not much at all.

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RE: Goat Milker - 7/14/2014 1:49:46 PM   
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no offense was meant.
The other thread was pretty brutal. I'm open to other people doing whatever they damn well please.

(but I seriously want to cry just looking at those pictures)

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RE: Goat Milker - 7/14/2014 3:16:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: shiftyw
(but I seriously want to cry just looking at those pictures)


What I've seen didn't seem like your intro level "these are fuzzy cuffs" sort of deal but it didn't seem any worse than plenty of other vacuum and clamp play and frankly seemed tame compared to cutting, piercing, branding and even harder paddling, caning, whipping practices.

I mean this lady's scene from the milking machine thread does make me go "oh dear"....





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RE: Goat Milker - 7/14/2014 3:17:20 PM   
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RE: Goat Milker - 7/14/2014 3:50:50 PM   
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Oh come now, that girl is not the be all and end all of opinions and she certainly has no real firm grasp about the fact that she is on the Internet, on a kinky dating site and female and therefore open to more bullshit than say a male in the same position. I watched the video and found it quite stupid.

1. It's not just her opinion, it's my observation and the observation of a number of others as well.

2. I find her to be a meaningful example of how all the threads questioning why her demographic isn't hanging out around here can be answered by linking to all the threads justifying how badly this community treats the next generation of potential posters.

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ORIGINAL: Gauge
Does she make a point or two, maybe, but I found her more naive than anything.

We were all naive once, nobody's an expert on their first day. It would be nice if that reality could lead us to being (if not friendly) at least more frequently civil toward new posters instead of calling them names like stupid.

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As far as it meeting her approval, I am sure going to lose sleep over the fact that she doesn't like this site.

*Shrug* Maybe you should. I (and others) have been noticing how this community isn't what it used to be, the solution to that's new blood. But if the levels of snark stay so highly toxic that the new posters keep running for it we have an ever dwindling community to look forward to.

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RE: Goat Milker - 7/14/2014 5:33:44 PM   
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But for real, my nips are sensitive. I have been trying to use the clover clamps with the chain that my guy gleefully bought six months ago- to no avail. I can't imagine some expensive contraption trying to suck the milk out of them. Just thinking about it makes me cringe and cross my arms over my tits.

I happen to like flogging- so those bruises are pretty sexy to me.

I was expressing a personal preference- I have no knowledge of the safety of using goat milkers on humans- I never claimed to, nor did I claim to have a problem with these people using these things- to my knowledge, I've never posting anything about the safety of using these things.
But since you jumped all over it- Admittedly I guess I have learned that this is done relatively safely- but I kinda knew that already- so I stand my statement that, I've never thought about it before- but this is now a hard limit- and that's all I've learned from both threads.

I don't even think I posted on the previous thread, if I did, I'm sure I posted my personal opinion. Lay off. I get it. It can be done without major repercussions. I'm not debating that. Mostly that one sentence about it being a hard limit was pretty lighthearted- the question after it was serious.

I ASKED for some references to the emotional and hormonal results of inducing lactation without a baby- so that I could FURTHER my knowledge on the subject- yet no one has provided anything about that.

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RE: Goat Milker - 7/14/2014 6:41:06 PM   
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I was expressing a personal preference- I have no knowledge of the safety of using goat milkers on humans- I never claimed to, nor did I claim to have a problem with these people using these things- to my knowledge, I've never posting anything about the safety of using these things.

Sorry for coming on too strong, I think you made the above clear by post 30. My response wasn't meant to be an attack against you personally. I was expressing that I also cringe when exposed to a number of kinks and I don't think it's just the two of us. Hoping the implication would resonate generally that if we go around knee jerk attacking what we're not into there's going to be a lot of attacking going on around here but I can see how it came off as preaching to the choir.


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ORIGINAL: shiftyw
I ASKED for some references to the emotional and hormonal results of inducing lactation without a baby- so that I could FURTHER my knowledge on the subject- yet no one has provided anything about that.

I'd be curious to see that as well.


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hey now, we use real handcuffs!

Lol

I actually took the fuzzies off and put them on real handcuffs to easy my girl into being cuffed.

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RE: Goat Milker - 7/14/2014 9:21:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wrote a long reply, but decided not to post it because it is going pretty far off topic. I would be happy to discuss this with you through email.

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RE: Goat Milker - 7/15/2014 7:14:12 AM   
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I wrote a long reply, but decided not to post it because it is going pretty far off topic. I would be happy to discuss this with you through email.


If you like, though functioning together as a community was always part of this thread, you could probably just post it here.

P.S. There's a fetlife thread at the moment about how this place is a train wreck: https://fetlife.com/groups/41/group_posts/5649322

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RE: Goat Milker - 7/15/2014 7:20:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am not sure that I buy that picture as a chick really being milked. Looks more like a glamor shot to me. Of course, it could be because I have been watching Insex videos lately-lol.

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RE: Goat Milker - 7/15/2014 7:22:50 AM   
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RE: Goat Milker - 7/15/2014 7:25:10 AM   
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