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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 6:43:24 AM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		News flash. I get that. In fact, I got that somewhere around 1963.

If you haven't noticed, not everyone agrees. So it takes time.

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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 6:45:05 AM   
Tkman117


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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 6:57:34 AM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		Any idiot can sit around predicting doomsday, and it's no more help than the people doing business as usual.

In fact, it's worse, because it's a waste of mental and emotional energy.

Start working on solutions, even if small, and do them. Today.

Anything else is just whining.

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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 7:43:34 AM   
Tkman117


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Status: offline 		Agreed, it's what I'm in school for. Except I'm Canadian, any solution I could come up with or any Canadian or foreigner could come up with for american problems would likely be faced with blatant hatred of anything different or new. It's a running theme with americans unfortunately.

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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 7:48:35 AM   
Musicmystery


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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 8:09:52 AM   
Tkman117


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Status: offline 		Hey man, we'll continue doing our best keeping ourselves afloat despite the fact that you're dragging us down like an anchor. It's your country, you and your people have to govern it. Unfortunately we'll just have to deal with the ramifications of your government's collective insanity as it comes.

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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 8:11:28 AM   
Musicmystery


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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 8:17:21 AM   
Tkman117


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Status: offline 		Well considering we have very few shootings, gays can marry, we have universal healthcare and we're number 7 on the peace index, I'd say things have actually been going pretty well so far. I just hope you guys make a come back on the world stage, your people are going through crap I couldn't even imagine and you have the obvious potential for so much more than this.

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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 12:31:22 PM   
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Give me one example where the cops shot the ccw holder instead of the bad guy.
Give me one example of the ccw holder in this situation shooting everyone but the bad guy.
I call bullshit on both of those.

Self serving == supports my position.


Since I never said that why should I even comment on it let alone prove it?

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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 12:32:35 PM   
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Given these things it behooves you to prove why he shouldn't have had a gun, other than you don't want him to.


Where have I said I don't want him to have a gun?

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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 12:33:53 PM   
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FR
From some of the comments on here you would think that Wilcox was the villain of the piece.



What comment did you see where someone said wilcox was the villain?

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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 12:39:51 PM   
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But you are right about what a corrupt government and failing education can do to a city. Care to guess which side has been in control for the last 50 years.


36.Lyndon Johnson
37.Richard Nixon
38.Gerald Ford
39.Jimmy Carter
40.Ronald Reagan
41.George Bush
42.Bill Clinton
43.George W. Bush
44.Barack Obama
It looks like 30 years of republicans and 20 years of democrats.
What is your point?

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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 12:52:06 PM   
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But you are right about what a corrupt government and failing education can do to a city. Care to guess which side has been in control for the last 50 years.


36.Lyndon Johnson
37.Richard Nixon
38.Gerald Ford
39.Jimmy Carter
40.Ronald Reagan
41.George Bush
42.Bill Clinton
43.George W. Bush
44.Barack Obama
It looks like 30 years of republicans and 20 years of democrats.
What is your point?





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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 1:36:27 PM   
HunterS


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: HunterS


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
But you are right about what a corrupt government and failing education can do to a city. Care to guess which side has been in control for the last 50 years.


36.Lyndon Johnson
37.Richard Nixon
38.Gerald Ford
39.Jimmy Carter
40.Ronald Reagan
41.George Bush
42.Bill Clinton
43.George W. Bush
44.Barack Obama
It looks like 30 years of republicans and 20 years of democrats.
What is your point?






So your point is that Detroit was not a city when those guys were president?
Or
That who is president has no bearing on what happens in Detroit. We know that this is not true because you have blamed the president on numerous occasions for Detroits woes.
So that as usual you are full of shit.

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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 1:45:51 PM   
BamaD


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ORIGINAL: HunterS


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


quote:

ORIGINAL: HunterS


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
But you are right about what a corrupt government and failing education can do to a city. Care to guess which side has been in control for the last 50 years.


36.Lyndon Johnson
37.Richard Nixon
38.Gerald Ford
39.Jimmy Carter
40.Ronald Reagan
41.George Bush
42.Bill Clinton
43.George W. Bush
44.Barack Obama
It looks like 30 years of republicans and 20 years of democrats.
What is your point?






So your point is that Detroit was not a city when those guys were president?
Or
That who is president has no bearing on what happens in Detroit. We know that this is not true because you have blamed the president on numerous occasions for Detroits woes.
So that as usual you are full of shit.


No she is saying that Democrats have been in control IN DETROIT for the last 50 years.

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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 1:56:16 PM   
FullCircle


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ORIGINAL: HunterS


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

They were all pretty much the same.
Drug dealers coming on to my property, being real tough and dangerous till they realized that I was armed, and which point they got out of Dodge.
I have a friend who was in the process of being carjacked till he stuck a derringer in the carjackers chest at which time the carjacker suddenly remembered another county he had to be in.


Why would a drug dealer come to your property except to do business?
Your stories seem more than a little self serving so maybe you will forgive us if we all shout "bullshit" in unison.



Has to get his LSD from somewhere.

Don't drug dealers carry guns as a matter of course, has nobody seen The Wire?



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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 1:56:22 PM   
HunterS


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: thompsonxSo your point is that Detroit was not a city when those guys were president?
Or
That who is president has no bearing on what happens in Detroit. We know that this is not true because you have blamed the president on numerous occasions for Detroits woes.
So that as usual you are full of shit.


No she is saying that Democrats have been in control IN DETROIT for the last 50 years.


So just like she, you are as usual, full of shit for the same reason.

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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 1:58:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: HunterS


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


quote:

ORIGINAL: HunterS


quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi
But you are right about what a corrupt government and failing education can do to a city. Care to guess which side has been in control for the last 50 years.


36.Lyndon Johnson
37.Richard Nixon
38.Gerald Ford
39.Jimmy Carter
40.Ronald Reagan
41.George Bush
42.Bill Clinton
43.George W. Bush
44.Barack Obama
It looks like 30 years of republicans and 20 years of democrats.
What is your point?






So your point is that Detroit was not a city when those guys were president?
Or
That who is president has no bearing on what happens in Detroit. We know that this is not true because you have blamed the president on numerous occasions for Detroits woes.
So that as usual you are full of shit.


No she is saying that Democrats have been in control IN DETROIT for the last 50 years.



But that is wrong, GM has been in control of Detroit for the last 50 years and then some.

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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 2:10:25 PM   
BamaD


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ORIGINAL: HunterS


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


So your point is that Detroit was not a city when those guys were president?
Or
That who is president has no bearing on what happens in Detroit. We know that this is not true because you have blamed the president on numerous occasions for Detroits woes.
So that as usual you are full of shit.


No she is saying that Democrats have been in control IN DETROIT for the last 50 years.


So just like she, you are as usual, full of shit for the same reason.

Why did you put my name on someone another persons post?

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People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: Rights and Responsibilities; Being a Good Guy with ... - 6/20/2014 2:14:31 PM   
BamaD


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Given these things it behooves you to prove why he shouldn't have had a gun, other than you don't want him to.


Where have I said I don't want him to have a gun?

You asked for someone to justify him being engaged in a legal act, why would you do that if you approved of him doing so?

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Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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