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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 3:01:02 PM

ExiledTyrant

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ORIGINAL: SeekingTrinity

I wish I could say the same thing, ET

I know babe, and sometimes life removes the choice. I chose to get a divorce, and I had to accept that hell hath no fury... For the record, no truer words have ever been spoken... But I chose to get divorced not only for my happiness, but to teach my ums that they didn't have to accept misery.

I'm sure there are cons and x cons that feel they didn't have a choice in certain situations, but they made the choice that sent them to prison. Women aren't always so fortunate as to have a choice, but it serves us best when we acknowledge that we do or did.

Jus sayin

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 3:01:25 PM

SeekingTrinity

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FWIW Michael, I totally got what you were saying from the start.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 3:11:04 PM

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is this you sounding "not bitter"...LOL!

No, actually, I don't know where my bitterness could be read into this.

My Dom dies. I'm sad...not bitter.

Conversation with my mom. I get it...not bitter at all.

The e-mail from my current *x*. I'm confused, angry, saying to myself "wtf"...don't see where "bitter" would even come into play.

This is ME, actually trying to understand all that has gone on. This is ME, accepting and *respecting* someone who is willing to be MAN enough to say, "hey, I fucked up".

That's what's so interesting to me. Apparently, you are the person who will "push boundaries" because you *can*. Well, hell, I could put myself out as a Domme and have men (and possibly women) kneeling at my feet at the end of the night. Does that mean that I *should* do it?

I suppose the ultimate question might be this--- what makes a Dom? There are a lot of things....but if that doesn't include someone who is willing to admit that he has fucked up--- I'm outta there.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 3:23:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: SeekingTrinity

FWIW Michael, I totally got what you were saying from the start.

Good, I mean I used to enjoy this place but wow, the negativity and vitriol is a bit much! I write a paragraph saying how careful I am, how nurturing, how skillful, and they ignore all that, project their own issues and focus on one word...

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 4:07:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

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ORIGINAL: SeekingTrinity

FWIW Michael, I totally got what you were saying from the start.

Good, I mean I used to enjoy this place but wow, the negativity and vitriol is a bit much! I write a paragraph saying how careful I am, how nurturing, how skillful, and they ignore all that, project their own issues and focus on one word...

The negativity and vitriol and general cuntiness are limited to just a few special folk. The majority are fine. Exercise that hide button (love that thing) and stick around!

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 4:19:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

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ORIGINAL: SeekingTrinity

FWIW Michael, I totally got what you were saying from the start.

Good, I mean I used to enjoy this place but wow, the negativity and vitriol is a bit much! I write a paragraph saying how careful I am, how nurturing, how skillful, and they ignore all that, project their own issues and focus on one word...

The negativity and vitriol and general cuntiness are limited to just a few special folk. The majority are fine. Exercise that hide button (love that thing) and stick around!

My guess is that he's going to stick around (and that he's known about the "ignore button" for many years...)

What's amazing to me though is that this is someone who in one breath says that he doesn't give a flying fuck about a woman's limits, and then says how "nurturing" he is. I would venture to say that I'm not the first person who's called him on this, and I won't be the first person to be ignored (at best). But, that seems to be what happens when one doesn't take time for introspection.

And, to SpritiedSub, general "cuntiness"??? Because people don't agree with a Dom?? Wow..can't imagine the subs you get involved with if you bring out that terminology on a thread like this...

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 4:26:25 PM

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Listen you fucking twat, don't put words in my mouth. I have never said I don't give a fuck about a woman's limits. You do realize this isn't Match.com and we do things like beat, fist, share, piss on, rim, degrade, peg, cut, and god knows what other perversions, right?

The thread was about forced bi, I have and i will force women who are straight to do so. Those women consented to be with me, know how I view their limits and choose to be with me because they know they are safer and more respected by me than all the hand wringing ass kissing 'doms" who pretend to respect them all while cheating, etc.

And yes, I think "cuntiness" is about the perfect word to use to describe the victriol and insults you have hurled at me in nearly every post you have made. Knowing CM, you must also be a mod.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 4:33:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: littleladybug

My guess is that he's going to stick around (and that he's known about the "ignore button" for many years...)

What's amazing to me though is that this is someone who in one breath says that he doesn't give a flying fuck about a woman's limits, and then says how "nurturing" he is. I would venture to say that I'm not the first person who's called him on this, and I won't be the first person to be ignored (at best). But, that seems to be what happens when one doesn't take time for introspection.

And, to SpritiedSub, general "cuntiness"??? Because people don't agree with a Dom?? Wow..can't imagine the subs you get involved with if you bring out that terminology on a thread like this...

Some people can dish it out but they can't take it. I guess when a Dom is disrespectful to a femsub, he gets special immunity. (Must be those magic Domly powers at work.

)

I've heard it said that cuntiness equates to when a woman thinks with her cunt instead of using her common sense. I suppose it's A-OK for a dude to act cocky, rude and insolent around here--just take a look at how they act over at P&R. But at least over there, you have to put on your big boy and big girl panties because nobody's going to treat you like a spweshal widdle snowflake.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 4:38:18 PM

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~FRing it...easier to hit the box than the little reply link on my iPad~

It isn't disagreement that's the problem. It's the assumption made on something when you don't have all the facts that is the problem. Force WITH consent is night and day different than force WITHOUT consent. Frankly Id be pissed off at the assumption made that I forced my guy against his will to suck another man's cock when the person making the assumption was not present when things were discussed beforehand. Were you there for their conversations...or did you jump with both feet in the middle of someone's shit without having all the facts first?

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 4:43:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: SeekingTrinity

~FRing it...easier to hit the box than the little reply link on my iPad~

It isn't disagreement that's the problem. It's the assumption made on something when you don't have all the facts that is the problem. Force WITH consent is night and day different than force WITHOUT consent.

~FRing to this bitch cuz it's trendy.

Bitch, I'm forcing you to FR trendy like.

I haz spoken!

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 4:45:30 PM

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Oh shit, does that make me trendsexual, ET?

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 4:47:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: SeekingTrinity

Oh shit, does that make me trendsexual, ET?

Fuck... I didn't know there was going to be a quiz?!?! Let's just go with yes.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 4:49:51 PM

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~trendy FRing it because I was forced to by ET~

But, but, but...I used to be a straight FRer

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 4:53:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: SeekingTrinity

~trendy FRing it because I was forced to by ET~

But, but, but...I used to be a straight FRer

Um... (Puffs up muh chest all Domly like and thumps it for good measure), that's right, post slut, and donchu forget who turned you out

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 4:55:25 PM

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Listen you fucking twat, don't put words in my mouth. I have never said I don't give a fuck about a woman's limits. You do realize this isn't Match.com and we do things like beat, fist, share, piss on, rim, degrade, peg, cut, and god knows what other perversions, right?

Dang, I haven't been called a twat, let alone a "fucking twat" in FOREVER. Thanks...it really does feel good, especially coming from you.

You never said that you didn't care about a woman's limits? Let's go back to about...page 2 of this thread as a for example:

"No, limits are not changed by a guy saying "you should" or "merely because you say you are a Dom" but for the reasons I and others have stated. I am not saying all can or even should be changed, I am simply saying that it can and has been done."

And, yes, I do realize that there's lots of perverted crap going on here. I just didn't realize that by coming here, as a sub, I needed to engage in all of it, simply because a "Dom" wanted to push me.

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
The thread was about forced bi, I have and i will force women who are straight to do so. Those women consented to be with me, know how I view their limits and choose to be with me because they know they are safer and more respected by me than all the hand wringing ass kissing 'doms" who pretend to respect them all while cheating, etc.

While I would like to believe you on this...care to give me your "Dom resume" for say...the past 5 or 6 years? I'm sure you must have the credentials to back up what you're saying.

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
And yes, I think "cuntiness" is about the perfect word to use to describe the victriol and insults you have hurled at me in nearly every post you have made. Knowing CM, you must also be a mod.

Because I'm calling you on your crap? Hell, I'd hate to see you with a partner who has half a spine if you are *so* offended by what I've said here. I guess being a Dom, according to you, doesn't equate with having a thick skin.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 5:04:08 PM

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eta damn we done went all fucking twat and shit now huh? Classy as shit.

edit again to turn a cunt into a twat heh

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 5:13:13 PM

SeekingTrinity

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I'm still confused as hell how not giving a shit about a woman's limits came from the line quoted. What I got from the sentence was that limits don't just magically change because your partner says they should or even because that partner happens to be dominant to you. That not all limits can or should be changed. And what is not true about the statement that limits can and sometimes do change? How the fuck did not giving a shit about someone's limit come from that???

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 5:14:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: littleladybug

I just didn't realize that by coming here, as a sub, I needed to engage in all of it, simply because a "Dom" wanted to push me.

Uh, you get that is about a consensual authority dynamic, so the women I am with AGREE that I can manipulate their limits. I don't date weak women, its why I prefer to date Dommes or switches. They do not surrender easily but when they do, they do. My ex partners will in general have high praise for me or at least respect and few would disagree with anything I have posted here.

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While I would like to believe you on this...care to give me your "Dom resume" for say...the past 5 or 6 years? I'm sure you must have the credentials to back up what you're saying.

You would like to believe me? I have seen nothing but snarky doubtful comments often laced with vitriol, so sorry if that first statement shows you are full of shit. As for my resume, I could give it to you but you would have no idea how to check it. Suffice it to say I have taught at national conferences and often in LA and San Francisco. And give a nasty loon like yourself the name of my ex partners? Not a chance! Oh, and my resume goes back two decades and includes running a dungeon and the largest group in a good sized city so been there, done that.

So, since you asked for MY resume, what's yours?

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 5:16:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

fast reply

eta damn we done went all fucking twat and shit now huh? Classy as shit.

edit again to turn a cunt into a twat heh

You are bound and determined to suck all the joy out of my life

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 5:16:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: SeekingTrinity

I'm still confused as hell how not giving a shit about a woman's limits came from the line quoted. What I got from the sentence was that limits don't just magically change because your partner says they should or even because that partner happens to be dominant to you. That not all limits can or should be changed. And what is not true about the statement that limits can and sometimes do change? How the fuck did not giving a shit about someone's limit come from that???

Because they have a bitter axe to grind and facts and logic are just inconvenient blips, kinda like producing Fox News...

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