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cloudboy -> HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/16/2014 3:34:46 PM)
Number of U.S. Hate Groups Is Rising, Report Says ATLANTA — Fed by antagonism toward President Obama, resentment toward changing racial demographics and the economic rift between rich and poor, the number of so-called hate groups and antigovernment organizations in the nation has continued to grow, according to a report released Wednesday by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The Data of Hate Stormfront was founded in 1995 by Don Black, a former Ku Klux Klan leader. Its most popular “social groups” are “Union of National Socialists” and “Fans and Supporters of Adolf Hitler.” POLITICAL developments certainly play a role. The day that saw the biggest single increase in membership in Stormfront’s history, by far, was Nov. 5, 2008, the day after Barack Obama was elected president. -------- How much of the above mentioned "hatred" is on the rise because the US President is black? Would these figures be completely different if Hillary Clinton were elected in 2008?

Sanity -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/16/2014 8:29:07 PM)
On the rise, or "Rise Up" as they say... [image]local://upfiles/292349/7EB941DF84AD4F19A428059C1F602CFD.jpg[/image]

DomKen -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/16/2014 8:31:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity On the rise, or "Rise Up" as they say... [image]local://upfiles/292349/7EB941DF84AD4F19A428059C1F602CFD.jpg[/image] None of which actually happened. Haven't you figured out yet that these guys are just loud mouths?

Sanity -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/16/2014 8:33:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen None of which actually happened. Haven't you figured out yet that these guys are just loud mouths? Are they "just loud mouths" if they're white, dk

Moderator3 -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/16/2014 8:36:05 PM)
I don't like removing pictures, but when they are this large, I must. Can you all resize them before you post them? Thank you

BamaD -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/16/2014 9:31:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen None of which actually happened. Haven't you figured out yet that these guys are just loud mouths? Are they "just loud mouths" if they're white, dk If they were white it would prove all conservatives are vicious racists (he knows that there are no black conservatives [except the self hating ones] even if they were wearing Che T-shirts.

BamaD -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/16/2014 9:38:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Number of U.S. Hate Groups Is Rising, Report Says ATLANTA — Fed by antagonism toward President Obama, resentment toward changing racial demographics and the economic rift between rich and poor, the number of so-called hate groups and antigovernment organizations in the nation has continued to grow, according to a report released Wednesday by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The Data of Hate Stormfront was founded in 1995 by Don Black, a former Ku Klux Klan leader. Its most popular “social groups” are “Union of National Socialists” and “Fans and Supporters of Adolf Hitler.” POLITICAL developments certainly play a role. The day that saw the biggest single increase in membership in Stormfront’s history, by far, was Nov. 5, 2008, the day after Barack Obama was elected president. -------- How much of the above mentioned "hatred" is on the rise because the US President is black? Would these figures be completely different if Hillary Clinton were elected in 2008? Did you know that about 10 years ago the Southern Poverty Law Center lost a lawsuit for discriminating against black employees? They are not a dependable source. They seem to have found out there is money in accusing people (including the BSA) of being racists.

DomKen -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/16/2014 10:05:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Number of U.S. Hate Groups Is Rising, Report Says ATLANTA — Fed by antagonism toward President Obama, resentment toward changing racial demographics and the economic rift between rich and poor, the number of so-called hate groups and antigovernment organizations in the nation has continued to grow, according to a report released Wednesday by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The Data of Hate Stormfront was founded in 1995 by Don Black, a former Ku Klux Klan leader. Its most popular “social groups” are “Union of National Socialists” and “Fans and Supporters of Adolf Hitler.” POLITICAL developments certainly play a role. The day that saw the biggest single increase in membership in Stormfront’s history, by far, was Nov. 5, 2008, the day after Barack Obama was elected president. -------- How much of the above mentioned "hatred" is on the rise because the US President is black? Would these figures be completely different if Hillary Clinton were elected in 2008? Did you know that about 10 years ago the Southern Poverty Law Center lost a lawsuit for discriminating against black employees? They are not a dependable source. They seem to have found out there is money in accusing people (including the BSA) of being racists. Wow how awful if only it were true. The SPLC is beyond reproach and is being slurred by bigots because they can't defend their hatefulness. Why do you believe them over people who have spent decades do nothing but opposing the worst of humanity?

BamaD -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/16/2014 10:19:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Number of U.S. Hate Groups Is Rising, Report Says ATLANTA — Fed by antagonism toward President Obama, resentment toward changing racial demographics and the economic rift between rich and poor, the number of so-called hate groups and antigovernment organizations in the nation has continued to grow, according to a report released Wednesday by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The Data of Hate Stormfront was founded in 1995 by Don Black, a former Ku Klux Klan leader. Its most popular “social groups” are “Union of National Socialists” and “Fans and Supporters of Adolf Hitler.” POLITICAL developments certainly play a role. The day that saw the biggest single increase in membership in Stormfront’s history, by far, was Nov. 5, 2008, the day after Barack Obama was elected president. -------- How much of the above mentioned "hatred" is on the rise because the US President is black? Would these figures be completely different if Hillary Clinton were elected in 2008? Did you know that about 10 years ago the Southern Poverty Law Center lost a lawsuit for discriminating against black employees? They are not a dependable source. They seem to have found out there is money in accusing people (including the BSA) of being racists. Wow how awful if only it were true. The SPLC is beyond reproach and is being slurred by bigots because they can't defend their hatefulness. Why do you believe them over people who have spent decades do nothing but opposing the worst of humanity? It is true. Since you will dismiss any source I give you look it up for your self. Because I live near Montgomery, the lawsuit was covered locally, I doubt that your liberal sources mentioned it. And they declared the Boy Scouts to be a hate group because they didn't have gay troop masters. I don't listen to the kind of people you imply I do. But you have to or it hurts your world view. I have met both the founder and his brother, the brother is a much better person.

SadistDave -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/17/2014 2:40:12 AM)
The SPLC is desperately trying to remain relevant. They make their money fund raising off of alleged bigotry. Legitimate charities spend around 75% of their proceeds on their programs. SPLC's M.O. is to fundraise for a program and raise millions for the cause, then pocket around 75% of the money. But it's amazing how the number of "hate groups" increases every time they redefine what a "hate group" is. In 2006 they went after a politician opposing immigration and suddenly opposing immigration reform was racist. In 2010 they decided to define any group they opposed that is against gay marriage as a hate group "on par with the KKK". Well, there are an awful lot of those, so of course the number of hate groups increased dramatically. Also, they have a quarterly report called the "Intelligence Report" which SPLC describes as being "the nation's preeminent periodical monitoring the radical right in the U.S" (emphasis mine) They're not exactly hiding the fact that they are a completely biased group. I did a little digging because I had never heard of the allegations against SPLC either. Apparently the series in the Montgomery newspaper was a nominated finalist for a Pulitzer Prize in 1995, but one of the founders of SPLC lobbied to have it removed from the nominations. Apparently 12 of the 13 black employees were complaining about racism in the office and said the organization was run "like a plantation". In their entire history up until that point they had only hired 2 black lawyers. Interesting stuff. -SD-

DomKen -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/17/2014 6:02:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Number of U.S. Hate Groups Is Rising, Report Says ATLANTA — Fed by antagonism toward President Obama, resentment toward changing racial demographics and the economic rift between rich and poor, the number of so-called hate groups and antigovernment organizations in the nation has continued to grow, according to a report released Wednesday by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The Data of Hate Stormfront was founded in 1995 by Don Black, a former Ku Klux Klan leader. Its most popular “social groups” are “Union of National Socialists” and “Fans and Supporters of Adolf Hitler.” POLITICAL developments certainly play a role. The day that saw the biggest single increase in membership in Stormfront’s history, by far, was Nov. 5, 2008, the day after Barack Obama was elected president. -------- How much of the above mentioned "hatred" is on the rise because the US President is black? Would these figures be completely different if Hillary Clinton were elected in 2008? Did you know that about 10 years ago the Southern Poverty Law Center lost a lawsuit for discriminating against black employees? They are not a dependable source. They seem to have found out there is money in accusing people (including the BSA) of being racists. Wow how awful if only it were true. The SPLC is beyond reproach and is being slurred by bigots because they can't defend their hatefulness. Why do you believe them over people who have spent decades do nothing but opposing the worst of humanity? It is true. Since you will dismiss any source I give you look it up for your self. Because I live near Montgomery, the lawsuit was covered locally, I doubt that your liberal sources mentioned it. And they declared the Boy Scouts to be a hate group because they didn't have gay troop masters. I don't listen to the kind of people you imply I do. But you have to or it hurts your world view. I have met both the founder and his brother, the brother is a much better person. I looked. No lawsuit. If such had happened it would be on the wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Poverty_Law_Center Nothing there. Google "SPLC discrimination lawsuit" and all you get are the many suits the SPLC has filed over the years. none filed against the SPLC. It's a baseless smear.

Mouth4Mistress -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/17/2014 6:05:49 AM)
SPLC is not a reliable source for, well, anything. They're scam artists, pure and simple. Just as Jesse Jackson's "Rainbow/PUSH Coalition" is nothing more than an extortion outfit (pay us or we'll raise a public stink), the SPLC makes their money by creating outrage at whatever they can. It's a sick little group with a sick little agenda, and a completely misleading name.

DomKen -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/17/2014 6:06:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SadistDave The SPLC is desperately trying to remain relevant. They make their money fund raising off of alleged bigotry. Legitimate charities spend around 75% of their proceeds on their programs. SPLC's M.O. is to fundraise for a program and raise millions for the cause, then pocket around 75% of the money. making up shit I see. http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4482#.U8fJ-CxOWB8

Mouth4Mistress -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/17/2014 6:11:02 AM)
No lawsuits or formal ethics complaints, eh? Google, motherfuckers.

DomKen -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/17/2014 6:29:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress No lawsuits or formal ethics complaints, eh? Google, motherfuckers. Did I write that? Are you incapable of reading? The specific claim BamaD made doesn't seem to be real.

Zonie63 -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/17/2014 6:51:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy How much of the above mentioned "hatred" is on the rise because the US President is black? Would these figures be completely different if Hillary Clinton were elected in 2008? I doubt it would be that much different, although the rise in hatred may also be related to the economic doldrums which started around the same time. Fear leads to hatred, and when so many people fear for the futures and the direction the country is going, it's not surprising that more people will gravitate towards hate groups. It probably would have been the same no matter who was President. I was thinking about this the other day as I noticed the commercials for the Republican gubernatorial primary started up. Two candidate commercials focused solely on the border and nothing else. They're running for governor, yet they didn't even address the dismal state of affairs in our State government; it all focused on the border and fighting Obama and the Federal government. This is going to be one hell of a campaign season.

Musicmystery -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/17/2014 7:35:01 AM)
Been that way since Clinton was elected . . . when you lose the election, spend the next 8 years whining and trying to reverse it.

BamaD -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/17/2014 10:51:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Number of U.S. Hate Groups Is Rising, Report Says ATLANTA — Fed by antagonism toward President Obama, resentment toward changing racial demographics and the economic rift between rich and poor, the number of so-called hate groups and antigovernment organizations in the nation has continued to grow, according to a report released Wednesday by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The Data of Hate Stormfront was founded in 1995 by Don Black, a former Ku Klux Klan leader. Its most popular “social groups” are “Union of National Socialists” and “Fans and Supporters of Adolf Hitler.” POLITICAL developments certainly play a role. The day that saw the biggest single increase in membership in Stormfront’s history, by far, was Nov. 5, 2008, the day after Barack Obama was elected president. -------- How much of the above mentioned "hatred" is on the rise because the US President is black? Would these figures be completely different if Hillary Clinton were elected in 2008? Did you know that about 10 years ago the Southern Poverty Law Center lost a lawsuit for discriminating against black employees? They are not a dependable source. They seem to have found out there is money in accusing people (including the BSA) of being racists. Wow how awful if only it were true. The SPLC is beyond reproach and is being slurred by bigots because they can't defend their hatefulness. Why do you believe them over people who have spent decades do nothing but opposing the worst of humanity? It is true. Since you will dismiss any source I give you look it up for your self. Because I live near Montgomery, the lawsuit was covered locally, I doubt that your liberal sources mentioned it. And they declared the Boy Scouts to be a hate group because they didn't have gay troop masters. I don't listen to the kind of people you imply I do. But you have to or it hurts your world view. I have met both the founder and his brother, the brother is a much better person. I looked. No lawsuit. If such had happened it would be on the wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Poverty_Law_Center Nothing there. Google "SPLC discrimination lawsuit" and all you get are the many suits the SPLC has filed over the years. none filed against the SPLC. It's a baseless smear. Check the Montgomery Advertiser. I heard Morris Dees, in persons say "you know how these people are" when asked how an intruder got past his security.

BamaD -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/17/2014 10:54:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress No lawsuits or formal ethics complaints, eh? Google, motherfuckers. Did I write that? Are you incapable of reading? The specific claim BamaD made doesn't seem to be real. So you admit that they are scam artists and hypocrites but want to nitpick.

Sanity -> RE: HATE Groups -- Post Obama Election (7/17/2014 11:12:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Been that way since Clinton was elected . . . when you lose the election, spend the next 8 years whining and trying to reverse it. The worst of it was during the Bush years

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