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There is a claim that he participated in the assault actually. Which if Wilson could testify would make Johnson subject to a felony murder charge. Notice that Johnson has spoken publicly about the incident on several occasions with a lawyer present. That's because the lawyer knows the prosecutor cannot bring charges.


Neither Wilson, not Johnson, or for that matter any serious source, have claimed that Johnson attacked Wilson. Johnson has made statements but if he said he attacked Wilson there would be no need for anyone else to say anything, you do know what a confession is don't you.

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Why do you hate the black community so much, Ken? What could set your racism so deep?

WTF? Have you been drinking again? You really need some help.

Don't try to make it about me, Ken. You are the racist asshole filling the pages with your little minstrel show game. I realize you are bored, and lonely, but quit attacking a community that could use some fucking understanding of the real issues that contributed to this death.

You must really love dead black teenagers. Sick fucker.

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There is a claim that he participated in the assault actually. Which if Wilson could testify would make Johnson subject to a felony murder charge. Notice that Johnson has spoken publicly about the incident on several occasions with a lawyer present. That's because the lawyer knows the prosecutor cannot bring charges.


Neither Wilson, not Johnson, or for that matter any serious source, have claimed that Johnson attacked Wilson. Johnson has made statements but if he said he attacked Wilson there would be no need for anyone else to say anything, you do know what a confession is don't you.

Wilson does claim that Johnson participated in the assault and the detail in question is one of the very few things that Johnson's statement confirms so you are simply full of shit.

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There is a claim that he participated in the assault actually. Which if Wilson could testify would make Johnson subject to a felony murder charge. Notice that Johnson has spoken publicly about the incident on several occasions with a lawyer present. That's because the lawyer knows the prosecutor cannot bring charges.


Neither Wilson, not Johnson, or for that matter any serious source, have claimed that Johnson attacked Wilson. Johnson has made statements but if he said he attacked Wilson there would be no need for anyone else to say anything, you do know what a confession is don't you.

Wilson does claim that Johnson participated in the assault and the detail in question is one of the very few things that Johnson's statement confirms so you are simply full of shit.

You are trying to tell us that Wilson claimed that Johnson struck him, shoved him, or took any physical action against him. Or just that Johnson shot his mouth off and aggravated the situation?
Tell us exactly what action Johnson was alleged to have taken against Wilson, and why aren't the right wing and mainstream sources overrun with that story.

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There is a claim that he participated in the assault actually. Which if Wilson could testify would make Johnson subject to a felony murder charge. Notice that Johnson has spoken publicly about the incident on several occasions with a lawyer present. That's because the lawyer knows the prosecutor cannot bring charges.


Neither Wilson, not Johnson, or for that matter any serious source, have claimed that Johnson attacked Wilson. Johnson has made statements but if he said he attacked Wilson there would be no need for anyone else to say anything, you do know what a confession is don't you.

Wilson does claim that Johnson participated in the assault and the detail in question is one of the very few things that Johnson's statement confirms so you are simply full of shit.

You are trying to tell us that Wilson claimed that Johnson struck him, shoved him, or took any physical action against him. Or just that Johnson shot his mouth off and aggravated the situation?
Tell us exactly what action Johnson was alleged to have taken against Wilson, and why aren't the right wing and mainstream sources overrun with that story.

No. I'm telling you that Johnson took an action that furthered the assault according to Wilson which is enough to make him liable. And since you have claimed several times to know what Wilson testified I refuse to explain something you claim to already know. Either admit you haven't actually read Wilson's testimony or figure it out for yourself.

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There is a claim that he participated in the assault actually. Which if Wilson could testify would make Johnson subject to a felony murder charge. Notice that Johnson has spoken publicly about the incident on several occasions with a lawyer present. That's because the lawyer knows the prosecutor cannot bring charges.


Neither Wilson, not Johnson, or for that matter any serious source, have claimed that Johnson attacked Wilson. Johnson has made statements but if he said he attacked Wilson there would be no need for anyone else to say anything, you do know what a confession is don't you.

Wilson does claim that Johnson participated in the assault and the detail in question is one of the very few things that Johnson's statement confirms so you are simply full of shit.

You are trying to tell us that Wilson claimed that Johnson struck him, shoved him, or took any physical action against him. Or just that Johnson shot his mouth off and aggravated the situation?
Tell us exactly what action Johnson was alleged to have taken against Wilson, and why aren't the right wing and mainstream sources overrun with that story.

No. I'm telling you that Johnson took an action that furthered the assault according to Wilson which is enough to make him liable. And since you have claimed several times to know what Wilson testified I refuse to explain something you claim to already know. Either admit you haven't actually read Wilson's testimony or figure it out for yourself.

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There is a claim that he participated in the assault actually. Which if Wilson could testify would make Johnson subject to a felony murder charge. Notice that Johnson has spoken publicly about the incident on several occasions with a lawyer present. That's because the lawyer knows the prosecutor cannot bring charges.


Neither Wilson, not Johnson, or for that matter any serious source, have claimed that Johnson attacked Wilson. Johnson has made statements but if he said he attacked Wilson there would be no need for anyone else to say anything, you do know what a confession is don't you.

Wilson does claim that Johnson participated in the assault and the detail in question is one of the very few things that Johnson's statement confirms so you are simply full of shit.

You are trying to tell us that Wilson claimed that Johnson struck him, shoved him, or took any physical action against him. Or just that Johnson shot his mouth off and aggravated the situation?
Tell us exactly what action Johnson was alleged to have taken against Wilson, and why aren't the right wing and mainstream sources overrun with that story.

No. I'm telling you that Johnson took an action that furthered the assault according to Wilson which is enough to make him liable. And since you have claimed several times to know what Wilson testified I refuse to explain something you claim to already know. Either admit you haven't actually read Wilson's testimony or figure it out for yourself.

So finally you admit that Johnson did not physically get involved in the assault, thus he is not did not engage in the assault, thus he cannot be charged with murder. Thank you for proving once again that you are an idiot.

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The rule of felony murder is a legal doctrine in some common law jurisdictions that broadens the crime of murder in two ways. First, when an offender kills accidentally or without specific intent to kill in the commission of a felony, the offender can be charged with murder. Second, it makes any participant in such a felony criminally liable for any deaths that occur during or in furtherance of that felony.

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At law, an accomplice is a person who actively participates in the commission of a crime, even if they take no part in the actual criminal offense.

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At law, an accomplice has the same degree of guilt as the person he or she is assisting, is subject to prosecution for the same crime, and faces the same criminal penalties.

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There is a claim that he participated in the assault actually. Which if Wilson could testify would make Johnson subject to a felony murder charge. Notice that Johnson has spoken publicly about the incident on several occasions with a lawyer present. That's because the lawyer knows the prosecutor cannot bring charges.


Neither Wilson, not Johnson, or for that matter any serious source, have claimed that Johnson attacked Wilson. Johnson has made statements but if he said he attacked Wilson there would be no need for anyone else to say anything, you do know what a confession is don't you.

Wilson does claim that Johnson participated in the assault and the detail in question is one of the very few things that Johnson's statement confirms so you are simply full of shit.

You are trying to tell us that Wilson claimed that Johnson struck him, shoved him, or took any physical action against him. Or just that Johnson shot his mouth off and aggravated the situation?
Tell us exactly what action Johnson was alleged to have taken against Wilson, and why aren't the right wing and mainstream sources overrun with that story.

No. I'm telling you that Johnson took an action that furthered the assault according to Wilson which is enough to make him liable. And since you have claimed several times to know what Wilson testified I refuse to explain something you claim to already know. Either admit you haven't actually read Wilson's testimony or figure it out for yourself.

By your assessment every person involved in the riots can be charged with arson.

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There is a claim that he participated in the assault actually. Which if Wilson could testify would make Johnson subject to a felony murder charge. Notice that Johnson has spoken publicly about the incident on several occasions with a lawyer present. That's because the lawyer knows the prosecutor cannot bring charges.


Neither Wilson, not Johnson, or for that matter any serious source, have claimed that Johnson attacked Wilson. Johnson has made statements but if he said he attacked Wilson there would be no need for anyone else to say anything, you do know what a confession is don't you.

Wilson does claim that Johnson participated in the assault and the detail in question is one of the very few things that Johnson's statement confirms so you are simply full of shit.

You are trying to tell us that Wilson claimed that Johnson struck him, shoved him, or took any physical action against him. Or just that Johnson shot his mouth off and aggravated the situation?
Tell us exactly what action Johnson was alleged to have taken against Wilson, and why aren't the right wing and mainstream sources overrun with that story.

No. I'm telling you that Johnson took an action that furthered the assault according to Wilson which is enough to make him liable. And since you have claimed several times to know what Wilson testified I refuse to explain something you claim to already know. Either admit you haven't actually read Wilson's testimony or figure it out for yourself.

By your assessment every person involved in the riots can be charged with arson.

Wrong. You are truly one clueless fuck.

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I did answer your question, several times in fact, and since my answers, including a link describing the principle in detail, does not satisfy you I have no idea what else to do. You even demanded statutes for things that are not and have never been ruled by statute but by appellate decisions. Which if you actually knew what you were talking about you would know.

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I did answer your question, several times in fact, and since my answers, including a link describing the principle in detail, does not satisfy you I have no idea what else to do. You even demanded statutes for things that are not and have never been ruled by statute but by appellate decisions. Which if you actually knew what you were talking about you would know.

I said statutes and legal precedent, now who is not reading?

I know precisely what I am talking about. What you originally said was what precipitated my responses. You have not proved your claim by any means whatsoever. All you did is cite something that did not apply.

If there were a trial, which there will not be, if Wilson took the stand and presented his claim of assault, it would be admissible. Even if he did not take the stand, the claim and evidence prove an altercation took place within the police car, which is relevant and admissible.

I'm done here.

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There is a claim that he participated in the assault actually. Which if Wilson could testify would make Johnson subject to a felony murder charge. Notice that Johnson has spoken publicly about the incident on several occasions with a lawyer present. That's because the lawyer knows the prosecutor cannot bring charges.


Neither Wilson, not Johnson, or for that matter any serious source, have claimed that Johnson attacked Wilson. Johnson has made statements but if he said he attacked Wilson there would be no need for anyone else to say anything, you do know what a confession is don't you.

Wilson does claim that Johnson participated in the assault and the detail in question is one of the very few things that Johnson's statement confirms so you are simply full of shit.

You are trying to tell us that Wilson claimed that Johnson struck him, shoved him, or took any physical action against him. Or just that Johnson shot his mouth off and aggravated the situation?
Tell us exactly what action Johnson was alleged to have taken against Wilson, and why aren't the right wing and mainstream sources overrun with that story.

No. I'm telling you that Johnson took an action that furthered the assault according to Wilson which is enough to make him liable. And since you have claimed several times to know what Wilson testified I refuse to explain something you claim to already know. Either admit you haven't actually read Wilson's testimony or figure it out for yourself.

By your assessment every person involved in the riots can be charged with arson.

Wrong. You are truly one clueless fuck.

No they enhance an environment to promote arson so they are equally guilty.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

There is a claim that he participated in the assault actually. Which if Wilson could testify would make Johnson subject to a felony murder charge. Notice that Johnson has spoken publicly about the incident on several occasions with a lawyer present. That's because the lawyer knows the prosecutor cannot bring charges.


Neither Wilson, not Johnson, or for that matter any serious source, have claimed that Johnson attacked Wilson. Johnson has made statements but if he said he attacked Wilson there would be no need for anyone else to say anything, you do know what a confession is don't you.

Wilson does claim that Johnson participated in the assault and the detail in question is one of the very few things that Johnson's statement confirms so you are simply full of shit.

You are trying to tell us that Wilson claimed that Johnson struck him, shoved him, or took any physical action against him. Or just that Johnson shot his mouth off and aggravated the situation?
Tell us exactly what action Johnson was alleged to have taken against Wilson, and why aren't the right wing and mainstream sources overrun with that story.

No. I'm telling you that Johnson took an action that furthered the assault according to Wilson which is enough to make him liable. And since you have claimed several times to know what Wilson testified I refuse to explain something you claim to already know. Either admit you haven't actually read Wilson's testimony or figure it out for yourself.

By your assessment every person involved in the riots can be charged with arson.

Wrong. You are truly one clueless fuck.

No they enhance an environment to promote arson so they are equally guilty.

That has nothing to do with being an accomplice to something. Try pulling your head out of your ass please.

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There is a claim that he participated in the assault actually. Which if Wilson could testify would make Johnson subject to a felony murder charge. Notice that Johnson has spoken publicly about the incident on several occasions with a lawyer present. That's because the lawyer knows the prosecutor cannot bring charges.


Neither Wilson, not Johnson, or for that matter any serious source, have claimed that Johnson attacked Wilson. Johnson has made statements but if he said he attacked Wilson there would be no need for anyone else to say anything, you do know what a confession is don't you.

Wilson does claim that Johnson participated in the assault and the detail in question is one of the very few things that Johnson's statement confirms so you are simply full of shit.

You are trying to tell us that Wilson claimed that Johnson struck him, shoved him, or took any physical action against him. Or just that Johnson shot his mouth off and aggravated the situation?
Tell us exactly what action Johnson was alleged to have taken against Wilson, and why aren't the right wing and mainstream sources overrun with that story.

No. I'm telling you that Johnson took an action that furthered the assault according to Wilson which is enough to make him liable. And since you have claimed several times to know what Wilson testified I refuse to explain something you claim to already know. Either admit you haven't actually read Wilson's testimony or figure it out for yourself.

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The why hasn't Johnson been charged with felony murder? Simply because Wilson cannot make the complaint and no one else saw the altercation.

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I did answer your question, several times in fact, and since my answers, including a link describing the principle in detail, does not satisfy you I have no idea what else to do. You even demanded statutes for things that are not and have never been ruled by statute but by appellate decisions. Which if you actually knew what you were talking about you would know.

I said statutes and legal precedent, now who is not reading?

I know precisely what I am talking about. What you originally said was what precipitated my responses. You have not proved your claim by any means whatsoever. All you did is cite something that did not apply.

If there were a trial, which there will not be, if Wilson took the stand and presented his claim of assault, it would be admissible. Even if he did not take the stand, the claim and evidence prove an altercation took place within the police car, which is relevant and admissible.

I'm done here.

The why hasn't Johnson been charged with felony murder? Simply because Wilson cannot make the complaint and no one else saw the altercation.

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Yeah, this is another thread whose time has come.

Let's agree to disagree and close out this thread. 'Kay? :)

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The why hasn't Johnson been charged with felony murder? Simply because Wilson cannot make the complaint and no one else saw the altercation.

Why the fuck would they bring a felony murder charge against the guy that was with Brown? Wilson cannot make the complaint because Johnson didn't murder anyone, nor was he complicit in Brown's death. He was with Brown, may or may not have been involved with the assault, and Johnson did not charge Wilson, or he would likely be dead too. The assault did not cause the death of Brown, the fact that Brown charged toward Wilson was the reason for the shooting. Had Brow surrendered, it would have been over.

Your assertion was that in a trial, Wilson's testimony about the assault would have been inadmissible, there is simply no legal precedent for that assertion nor is there any legal statute prohibiting it.

You are fishing for something that simply is not there.

This is over.