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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/12/2006 11:06:07 AM

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This slave girl finds it to be really hard to find persons who seek 24/7.

tracie,
Considering that this is the opening line in your CM profile; "Not seeking a Dominant!Submissives and slaves and switches approach only!!! I would think it's be damn near impossible!

btw tracie, "slave" connotes ownership. As a person without a Master who are you a "slave" to?

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Caretakr: people seem to think 24 7 is something like a kinky play session, that never ends. Really it's pretty boring overall.

Sort of like living with a boss.

Caretakr,
No-it's living with a slave, or Master.

Maybe the "boredom" you experienced was because you equated it as a work environment complete with a passion-less "boss".

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/12/2006 11:13:17 AM

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Life can be boring. Washing dishes is boring, doing laundry is boring.

And why do people think a work enviornment has to be uninteresting, and without passion?

Ever see a couple of artists working together?

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/12/2006 11:17:04 AM

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Crawls up to her feet to listen to all of her "needs" so that he can do it exactly the way she wants and be a "true" dominate to her...

There are days like this that make me really REALLY happy I am a crappy dom. I am so fucking lazy I just do whatever the hell I feel like at the time with little if any concern what the little slut wants...

I wonder if she swallowed castle realm,lock, stock and saccharine?

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/12/2006 11:21:25 AM

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Ever see a couple of artists working together?

Everytime beth and glance in the mirror we put in our dungeon.

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/12/2006 11:21:53 AM

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Dear erin,

will take your words into consideration. And that is what this slave girl is doing. Sitting back and taking time and learning. That's why I made this posting for help in understanding. I can understand what You and others are saying. Moreover, i do not expect a 24/7 relationship to form from the onset of the relationship. That's unrealistic and crazy.

I guess i feel like being treated like shit is not a life worth living. Humbling myself to any fool who calls himself a Master makes me an even bigger fool. Been there done that! I'm trying to learn what D/s and M/s really are. What I see a lot of times is selfishness on both ends. Each manipulating the other for a desired affect. Instead of loving and respecting each other with every fiber of T/their being.

A close dear Dominant friend of mine said to me once about His Dominantion style was that he tried to make it mutally beneficial and he said that from what He reads in Dominant resources that they support a kind of selfishness that He does not agree with at all. And from what I have expereienced in my time as a sub was that many conduct themselves in such a self righteous beyond reproach manner. That is why the average D/s relationship is 18 months. There ain't that many subs moving to Canada and Europe for study in the world! Which is what many Dominants say why their sub or slave left them. No one is perfect especially not me!

I feel living with honor, dignity, integreity, and being kind, considerate, loving, sincere, diligent are values or traits that should be apart of my D/s life. They are the foundation of it. That is why I can shamelessly crawl on my kness and beg and gravel because I know He is worthy of that. Not because, I'm worthless. He has what I need or want and He is the only one to give it to me. So i put my pride aside and do whatever He wants because He has shown me that He is a good man and He will take care of me. Not from the onset but with time and as i prove myself worthy of His love. For this slave that is what it comes down to. For as many slaves and subs they are their are reasons but that is mine.

I live to serve and please and be a joy. Now if pleasing someone constantly leads to turmoil and punishment, why would I want to stay? i want to take care of my Master, i want to know Him so well that i know what He wants without Him saying a word. i already live that way with family and friends now i need it from somewone who can make my dreams and fantascies come true. A Master knows His worth and wants a woman that will worship Him and adore Him and respect Him. And He respects me and allows me a chance to grow and blossom under His guidance. i am His and He wields His power with wisdom and fairness, or however He see fit. And sometimes things may seem unfair but they are for the Good and i trust Him to know that is His intention. i try not to think that ideals can not work. If you work towards them and yes, you may fail at times in reaching them but you try. i try everyday and in everything i do i try to do my best. My own son says that to me everyday, Mommy, I tried my best....Sometimes he fails and sometimes he succeeds but He learns from his mistakes and failures and that's what we all should do. Stop settling and do your best. i know what i can offer and do and i want and deserve it in return and yes there will be times when i fail but i'll learn and when it comes up again, i will be better prepared. Maybe, i'm just optimistic but hard work and preparation is what I live by. Maybe that's "fluffy" but that's how I roll.

tracie

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/12/2006 11:25:23 AM

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Dear Merc and beth,

Not seeking a Master. Seeking friends. Just broke up. Trying to get a better understanding learning about my lack of humility and other flaws as well as my stregths but it seems many just want to dwell on the negative and i guess that is partically my fault so, here we are!

tracie

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/12/2006 11:38:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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Ever see a couple of artists working together?

Everytime beth and glance in the mirror we put in our dungeon.

That's the sort of business relationships I have. I like to mix work with pleasurable company. But my my, how difficult would that be, with a pain in the ass who wanted constant prompting and approval?

Low maintanence is better- if it's really important, I won't hesistate to say so.

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/12/2006 11:48:47 AM

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Sorry for to so many. I am grateful You took the time to write but i think i have spent too much time dwelling on the negative and I am sorry if I have offended You. I can really see the perspective that a micromanage sub can be topping from the bottom and that my veiw of submission may be considered fluffy. I guess i did buy Castlerealm's version. Instead of the empty heartless unfulfilling one I keep being told about. i do not have much experience of a positive and real D/s experiencence because often i lack patience for games and lies and for many that is what D/s is about. So to each His own.

And for those who could understand or see my sincerity beyond my immature approach, thank you. I know i not alone in my search for true love with a True Dom. There are still those of us who truly wish, "To love, Honor, and obey." i say keep your heads up and don't look back and keep trying. Do your best because You never know who's watching. (And no that is not why i am changing my tune, nay sayer's) The friend i wrote about in a posting to Lily actually just called and He was concerned about me! So there is hope out there. And He reminded me not to dwell in the negative and to stay positive and be kind. And that is what i am going to do.

Have a good life. Hope to see You around.

Warmest regards,
tracie

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/12/2006 8:27:09 PM

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A person doesn't apologise to property.

i normally agree with Your posts Sir, but on this, i beg to differ. One may not ever apologise to inanimate property, but living property, sure they do! Ever stepped on your dogs paw? Most will apologise as clearly as one can to a dog.

i will say, no, i wouldn't ever expect an apology, that would be ME assuming Masters intentions. but i have received apologies on occasions when He felt His actions were less than His usual standard, or if something happened beyond His control, He would still apologise for the downhill effect on me. (Traffic delay, ISP failure, something that temporarily impeeded communications, although He does have alternate systems in place for those situations, i have my orders regardless of such things) but the point is an apology is His perrogative. i find it appealing that His choice is usually to apologise when He deems fit, it's a form of comforting, which all Masters claim they provide for their slaves, no?

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devotednhappy

All the Masters that have released this slave girl always try come back to her

How many is "All"?

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devotednhappy

However, often it seems they just wanna play and fuck. Having no real mental control which comes from deep communication and understanding. It's like they do not know it can really exist.

How do they become your Master and you have not been able to judge them for what they were?

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devotednhappy

"Often, this slave girl finds that Dominats have her write or speak but really don't hear or understand her and instead of asking for clarifying questions they just do whatever"

and i still wonder, how do these guys get to the position of having you do anything, if they haven't already shown their abilities?

your subsequent posts do show you have more going on than the initial "dom me this way" type of thinking, but i still think from what evidence you present, you're giving these Doms authority over you before there is sufficient time to measure their qualities, and them measure how much investment they want to make in a slaves day.

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/12/2006 8:37:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44

As long as you give responses like this above tracie, noone is going to want to put up with you. Fact is, you're the slave. As such, you're property. A person doesn't apologise to property. It's like say sorry to the wall for having to hammer a nail in it more then once.

All in all, there is only one thing that all those Doms had in common that you need to change and thats you.

While I do not disagree with every part of this post, a slave is not an inanimate object, they are a human being with feelings. A human being in a collar serving you gets no more respect than a nail? All I can say is ...WOW.

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/12/2006 8:49:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44

As long as you give responses like this above tracie, noone is going to want to put up with you. Fact is, you're the slave. As such, you're property. A person doesn't apologise to property. It's like say sorry to the wall for having to hammer a nail in it more then once.

All in all, there is only one thing that all those Doms had in common that you need to change and thats you.

While I do not disagree with every part of this post, a slave is not an inanimate object, they are a human being with feelings. A human being in a collar serving you gets no more respect than a nail? All I can say is ...WOW.

See that's just it though....a post like his is a reality check. People need to know that not everyone in this lifestyle lives the Castlerealm version. There are many that see a slave as just that....property. They are not concerned with their feelings...or whether or not they feel fulfilled....or get to eat out at a nice restaurant once a week. They are not concerned with doling out "Good Girl's" or whether or not they are boosting their slaves self esteem. They are in this to have their needs and wants met...nothing more. Sometimes that indifference is exactly their kink. People like this can and do exist....whether you, I or anyone else thinks it's right or wrong....and they will practice their kink the way they see fit.

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/12/2006 9:15:56 PM

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I didn't say he was necessarily "wrong", but I am a little surprised about the brutal honesty there. I give him this much, he is honest, although this sort of dominant would not appeal to me personally. I realize some submissives have the desire to be treated like nonpeople, but it still boogles my mind a little...smiles.

For the record, I knew this kind of dom existed erin, and that is why I consider myself a submissive with 24-7 tendencies and not a slave. I take commitment to promises very seriously.

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/12/2006 9:47:24 PM

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i thought the same thing Yoda....*w*

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ORIGINAL: IronBear
Revamping your profile needs.

tracie, folks are motivated by reward....even doms. I get the feeling that you frumped more when he did things wrong then waggled your cute lil tail when he did things right....

think about that for a sec....would that motivate you?

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/12/2006 9:53:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44

As long as you give responses like this above tracie, noone is going to want to put up with you. Fact is, you're the slave. As such, you're property. A person doesn't apologise to property. It's like say sorry to the wall for having to hammer a nail in it more then once.

All in all, there is only one thing that all those Doms had in common that you need to change and thats you.

While I do not disagree with every part of this post, a slave is not an inanimate object, they are a human being with feelings. A human being in a collar serving you gets no more respect than a nail? All I can say is ...WOW.

See that's just it though....a post like his is a reality check. People need to know that not everyone in this lifestyle lives the Castlerealm version. There are many that see a slave as just that....property. They are not concerned with their feelings...or whether or not they feel fulfilled....or get to eat out at a nice restaurant once a week. They are not concerned with doling out "Good Girl's" or whether or not they are boosting their slaves self esteem. They are in this to have their needs and wants met...nothing more. Sometimes that indifference is exactly their kink. People like this can and do exist....whether you, I or anyone else thinks it's right or wrong....and they will practice their kink the way they see fit.

It's often shocking when someone into D/s, with an egalitarian bent, encounters an owner with an actual slavery bent.

Not everyone wants to kiss princess ass.

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/13/2006 12:36:25 AM

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It is nice to know that there are slaves in the world what are what I seek. In some ways it is much harder to find someone that you can have a relationship with and have as a slave at the same time but I guess I just can't dehumanize someone to that level. I wish to be served not out of duty, or fear, but out of love and just a basic need to serve. If my slave didn't, then punishing her by making her make a choice would be a moot point, wouldn't it? Yeah, I also don't expect miracles like instant understanding without months/years of communication or moving in right away. Trust needs to be built up, especially for some of the kink I like. Then again, I may be just ranting at the Doms who tend to act more like teens on a power trip than true Masters but still like to pretend.

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/13/2006 6:44:12 AM

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tracie,

I certainly hope you do not leave and I really hope you realize we were not attacking you as a person. We were attacking the vision of what D/s is about.

Some of us have been around a long time in the real world scene. I have as have many others seen hundreds of couples come and go. We see the dynamics, the patterns of how things tend to work.

The vision of what you seek is a common one. Another common thing is for submissives (doms do this too) is to make themselves feel better by rejecting others as not good enough. That is VERY distinct from having a healthy vision of what is "good" seeking it out and rejecting those who don't fit. It kind of looks the same but one is a healthy pattern, the other an unhealthy one.

So, please stick around, listen, learn, post, cavort, have fun, and learn from a place that I believe has a lot to offer.

Also, if you are interested, there are some excellent books on being a slave, non fiction books, put out by www.greenerypress.com they are written by Mistress Abernathy and I think you would find them most enlightening. Also, despite the name "The Bottoming Book" is one of the best books out there on doing D/s.

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/13/2006 7:30:53 AM

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Shadevarr, excellent response!

You're only 26 yet you out trumped the so-called "seasoned" doms with your humanity and wisdom.

Everyone is entitled to their version of interaction in this realm. To each his own. But I'm predicting that you'll be the one "owning" while others will be huffing and sputtering about girls topping from the bottom until they are too old to lift a flogger.

I applaud your maturity.

Lily.

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/13/2006 7:43:47 AM

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It is nice to know that there are slaves in the world what are what I seek. In some ways it is much harder to find someone that you can have a relationship with and have as a slave at the same time but I guess I just can't dehumanize someone to that level. I wish to be served not out of duty, or fear, but out of love and just a basic need to serve. If my slave didn't, then punishing her by making her make a choice would be a moot point, wouldn't it? Yeah, I also don't expect miracles like instant understanding without months/years of communication or moving in right away. Trust needs to be built up, especially for some of the kink I like. Then again, I may be just ranting at the Doms who tend to act more like teens on a power trip than true Masters but still like to pretend.

Of course you have to accept someone as a person, and build trust, doesn't work any other way. At the same time,slaves are going to test you to see how far they can push, before they can't.

And if they don't find that boundary-where they push you, will be right out the door. You'll see- slaves ARE very strong people- you had best be stronger.

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/13/2006 8:17:43 AM

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If I ever become a "true master" I will shoot myself...

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RE: 24/7 or bedroom fun? - 7/16/2006 6:50:33 PM

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i am a human being not a senseless lifeless object. Do not get me wrong, everyone has a right to their opinion but i know my love and devotion runs deep and long. i am a slave but may not agree with your brand of slavery. i like to needle play and knife play and some really dark play but when i carry myself like a lady in everyday life situations. i desire to treat me that way. i do not want to be disrespected in a manner that will make me inept. That breaks my spirit. It's one thing thing to have my Master tease or humiliate me. But from what i'm hearing, there's alot of abusive behavior and in my particular brand of D/s, hitting me outside of punishment or sceneing is unacceptable! i have self respect. i may crawl on my knees and let my Master piss on me or slap my face or whatever He wants but it's done for a purpose or maybe it's just the pupose of his enjoyment! Shot! i'm a painslut. i like to get down and dirty with the best of them. i have been beaten until i have bleed on numerous occassions! If He has any self respect why would He try to harm me anyway. i love and adore Him. i fear Him too. but i trust His character to know He'd never abuse or harm me.

That's my take on it and it's what i'm hearing from other subs and slaves. Many settle for abusive situations because of their lack of self respect and settling for unhealthy situations but many hate being so abused and misused in a"un-mutually benefical manner" most of us just want to love, serve, obey, and have some good nasty kinky fun!

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