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ExiledTyrant -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/2/2014 2:51:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit

most of the experiences on here tend to be centered around the idea "its about whatever he wants"that is a relationship dynamic and difference from the question: are sex slave underutilized? it's not about whether or not they want to get the most out of property it's about whether they are. are you usually bored or are you kept busy? being a slave doesnt mean you just drop your panties(if you wear them) whenever someone feels like it. if im in the mood i might take off his and hop on or if im not i will fight until he gives up. this wasnt about what they want it's about whether or not the property is being utilized.


Intriguing.




VerySincere -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/2/2014 3:17:11 PM)

Thinking its a very subjective call ... based on individual preference.

one might consider a "sex slave" well used on a once a week basis ... another, a couple times a day.

Myself, a sex slave has one responsibility sexually. That is to perform "oral" at the snap of the fingers; cause a "slave" has no right to gratification.

See, a different interpretation of two little words. [:)] [:)] [:)]






Spiritedsub2 -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/2/2014 3:26:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: VerySincere

Thinking its a very subjective call ... based on individual preference.

one might consider a "sex slave" well used on a once a week basis ... another, a couple times a day.

Myself, a sex slave has one responsibility sexually. That is to perform "oral" at the snap of the fingers; cause a "slave" has no right to gratification.

See, a different interpretation of two little words. [:)] [:)] [:)]



Sounds like a shit life. No wonder slaves are hard to find.




ExiledTyrant -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/2/2014 3:31:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2


quote:

ORIGINAL: VerySincere

Thinking its a very subjective call ... based on individual preference.

one might consider a "sex slave" well used on a once a week basis ... another, a couple times a day.

Myself, a sex slave has one responsibility sexually. That is to perform "oral" at the snap of the fingers; cause a "slave" has no right to gratification.

See, a different interpretation of two little words. [:)] [:)] [:)]



Sounds like a shit life. No wonder slaves are hard to find.



They're not hard to find. He has them all. Don't you feel the blood pumping, the uncontrollable need to race to him, the overwhelming need to live the life of no gratification?




DesFIP -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/2/2014 7:38:44 PM)

DU, the problem with you refusing when you aren't interested is that for most of us that isn't one of the things that goes with being a slave. Does your car say it doesn't want to go to the supermarket, it only wants to go for a Sunday drive? For most of us, the term slave connotes something different than you're describing.




Greta75 -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/2/2014 7:58:25 PM)

Ya I really don't understand why someone would want a sex slave if he does not want sex at least every day. But unless his experiences with women in the past is that, he can't even get them to have sex once a month, so twice a week is plenty.

I'm still looking for the elusive man who wants to have sex more than once a day though for the rest of his life.




DerangedUnit -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/3/2014 12:52:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

DU, the problem with you refusing when you aren't interested is that for most of us that isn't one of the things that goes with being a slave. Does your car say it doesn't want to go to the supermarket, it only wants to go for a Sunday drive? For most of us, the term slave connotes something different than you're describing.


sorry but you are human, that means you make choices whether you would like to or not. if someone tells you to stop breathing do you listen? no. if someone tells you to do something you do it because you want to. if you didnt you wouldnt do it. no, most slave except responsibility for their actions and dont say "im a car i have no choice" geez. you think that all the slaves throughout history listened to everything they were told. hell no thats a fast track to the meat grinder, you choose the path that gets you what you want. just because that may or may not include listening doesnt mean you can shirk off your sentience. sorry thats not how the world works.




DerangedUnit -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/3/2014 1:18:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Ya I really don't understand why someone would want a sex slave if he does not want sex at least every day. But unless his experiences with women in the past is that, he can't even get them to have sex once a month, so twice a week is plenty.

I'm still looking for the elusive man who wants to have sex more than once a day though for the rest of his life.


a few still exist ;) or maybe i got the last.... in which case haha sucker :P




ExiledTyrant -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/3/2014 4:04:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

DU, the problem with you refusing when you aren't interested is that for most of us that isn't one of the things that goes with being a slave. Does your car say it doesn't want to go to the supermarket, it only wants to go for a Sunday drive? For most of us, the term slave connotes something different than you're describing.


sorry but you are human, that means you make choices whether you would like to or not. if someone tells you to stop breathing do you listen? no. if someone tells you to do something you do it because you want to. if you didnt you wouldnt do it. no, most slave except responsibility for their actions and dont say "im a car i have no choice" geez. you think that all the slaves throughout history listened to everything they were told. hell no thats a fast track to the meat grinder, you choose the path that gets you what you want. just because that may or may not include listening doesnt mean you can shirk off your sentience. sorry thats not how the world works.


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DerangedUnit -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/3/2014 12:43:46 PM)

slaves and accept*

sorry but i would never be around someone who wanted me weak and they know that going into it.

slave means owned, the property of another pure and simple. the rest is what you may or may not want it to mean.

for me its always been 24/7 non-con. meaning i dont make up rules, going into something i say "a good rule of thumb is dont do anything to me you dont want done to yourself" why? because a man should be able to choose what is right or wrong without a barrier guidelining him and i have faith in my own abilities to defend myself. someone that wanted me to listen without thinking... sorry but i dont see that as dominant. those that tumble with me do so because they know i wont roll over and they will have to work hard to earn my respect. one managed. and now the majority of the time i listen but that wasnt before a long period of fighting it out and bleeding all over the sheets to learn what boundries we didnt want to push. obsolving someone of choice doesnt make it so, it makes them confused. it makes them wonder why nothing in life is turning out right. it doesnt take choice away.

control isnt about taking choices away. it's about offering better ones.







ExiledTyrant -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/3/2014 1:39:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit

slaves and accept*

sorry but i would never be around someone who wanted me weak and they know that going into it.

slave means owned, the property of another pure and simple. the rest is what you may or may not want it to mean.


I'm still in total agreement with Inigo Montoya.

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for me its always been 24/7 non-con. meaning i dont make up rules, going into something i say "a good rule of thumb is dont do anything to me you dont want done to yourself" why? because a man should be able to choose what is right or wrong without a barrier guidelining him and i have faith in my own abilities to defend myself.


That reeks of poor choices.

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someone that wanted me to listen without thinking...



May I draw your attention back to Inigo.

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those that tumble with me do so because they know i wont roll over and they will have to work hard to earn my respect. one managed.


Do you think there is a /s here with a brain in her head that has? They make good choices and reap the benifits of those choices. It's not a throw caution to the wind on a whim for them.

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and now the majority of the time i listen but that wasnt before a long period of fighting it out and bleeding all over the sheets to learn what boundries we didnt want to push.


And Inigo is correct again. That is not slavish nor submissive before. That is a SAM topping from the bottom, snipping off his nuts and tucking them neatly in your purse. Any /s with a brain wouldn't put him/herself in a position where a fight or blood on the sheets was an option. More poor choices.

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obsolving someone of choice doesnt make it so, it makes them confused. it makes them wonder why nothing in life is turning out right. it doesnt take choice away.


Anyone entering in a SSC M/s D/s dynamic wouldn't ever make that statement nor would the thought cross their minds. Most "sane" people allow people into their lives that will compliment their lives, not complicate them. Only desperate HNG's will choose a micromangment headcase for an /s. When you are an /s entering into a D/s M/s dynamic you are being absolved of nothing. You enter that dynamic full well of His/Her agenda and that agenda shall become yours as well. There is nothing, not one instance in your life that you will find yourself absolved of choice... you can choose to do as instructed or choose not to, but you are responsable for the choices you make, never absolved of choice.

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control isnt about taking choices away. it's about offering better ones.



Control is about leading the relationship dynamic, and that does not always offer better choices, they are what they are, and if you are stupid enough to submit to someone that makes poor choices in leading your relationship, that's on you. Death is not going to give you a coupon because you saraficed your life for stupidity.

In another post, perhaps thread, DesFip said that in her dynamic she would be asked to go off task. She had the choice to it or not do it, however, her choice was amazingly simple and submissive. She told Him that yes she could do X, but that would prevent Y. In no way was her statement topping from the bottom, SAMish, or defiant. It was very reasonable, well presented, and clearly showed the He is the captain, but she is a damn fine navigator. I am confident that she has navigated the captain of her ship through some pretty rough water and did so elegantly and my friend Inigo Montoyo wouldn't have much to say about her definition of slavery.

Again, I am in total agreement with Inigio Montoya, you keep using that word, and I don't think it means what you think it means. You sign up for X because X is agreeable. You don't fight and cover the sheets in blood and call it slavery. That is delusional.

Jus sayin




ResidentSadist -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/3/2014 2:46:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit
(1) .......... how often do people looking for sex slaves actually use them for sex?

(2) .......... why someone would search for a sex slave if they dont intend to use it as such?


(1) 3 times a day.

(2) That's beyond me, I don't think they would.




DerangedUnit -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/3/2014 3:22:08 PM)

the quote feature is making my phone freeze so doing it this way:

" There is nothing, not one instance in your life that you will find yourself absolved of choice... you can choose to do as instructed or choose not to, but you are responsable for the choices you make, never absolved of choice. "

come on that was exactly what i was saying. this started because she said she is like a car and has no choice, i said everyone has choice and you jumped on me saying i'm an idiot because i think slaves have choice lol

it is damn belligerent to assume that because you dont like me that my owner doesnt. obviously if someone has stuck around for close to a decade it's because we compliment each other perfectly.

i know full well that 98% of doms cant handle me, i dont go after them. nor have i ever once said i was submissive. i make a note to correct people on that whether or not they choose to believe it. topping from the bottom is not in insult, it just means the bottom is more dominant. people are all at different levels, i dont have to change who i am to be around people i like. i would never do something i didnt want to do to avoid a consequence. it has nothing to do with being a sam(though i hardly consider that an insult either, even though i'm not a masochist).

everyone maintains responsibility for their actions even if they are a slave, you choose what you want to fight over and what isn't worth it, doms do it too, every human on earth does. saying "i have no choice because i'm a slave" doesnt exist. even if you made the choice to listen once, things are always in flux. we always have a reason for what we choose, that cant be given to anyone else because only the individual knows what is best for them. someone else might think they have a better way but if they want to change something it's up to them to do it.

my owner doesn't want me to stop making choices, if i think something is a bad idea, if i think he's being an ass it is my responsibility to it's my responsibility to say so. he doesn't want me to listen because he says so, in things that aren't important to me i defer to him. other things i learned down the road that it's easier his way... and he learned that a few things are easier my way. because thats how relationships work. what label you put on it doesn't matter. point being don't go assuming you know more about other peoples lives than they do. spouting cliches doesn't make you look any more dominant no one on the internet cares if you are a "real dom" and don't consider me a "real slave"





DerangedUnit -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/3/2014 3:33:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

quote:

ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit
(1) .......... how often do people looking for sex slaves actually use them for sex?

(2) .......... why someone would search for a sex slave if they dont intend to use it as such?


(1) 3 times a day.

(2) That's beyond me, I don't think they would.



thank you




ExiledTyrant -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/3/2014 3:43:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit

the quote feature is making my phone freeze so doing it this way:

" There is nothing, not one instance in your life that you will find yourself absolved of choice... you can choose to do as instructed or choose not to, but you are responsable for the choices you make, never absolved of choice. "

come on that was exactly what i was saying. this started because she said she is like a car and has no choice, i said everyone has choice and you jumped on me saying i'm an idiot because i think slaves have choice lol

it is damn belligerent to assume that because you dont like me that my owner doesnt. obviously if someone has stuck around for close to a decade it's because we compliment each other perfectly.

i know full well that 98% of doms cant handle me, i dont go after them. nor have i ever once said i was submissive. i make a note to correct people on that whether or not they choose to believe it. topping from the bottom is not in insult, it just means the bottom is more dominant. people are all at different levels, i dont have to change who i am to be around people i like. i would never do something i didnt want to do to avoid a consequence. it has nothing to do with being a sam(though i hardly consider that an insult either, even though i'm not a masochist).

everyone maintains responsibility for their actions even if they are a slave, you choose what you want to fight over and what isn't worth it, doms do it too, every human on earth does. saying "i have no choice because i'm a slave" doesnt exist. even if you made the choice to listen once, things are always in flux. we always have a reason for what we choose, that cant be given to anyone else because only the individual knows what is best for them. someone else might think they have a better way but if they want to change something it's up to them to do it.

my owner doesn't want me to stop making choices, if i think something is a bad idea, if i think he's being an ass it is my responsibility to it's my responsibility to say so. he doesn't want me to listen because he says so, in things that aren't important to me i defer to him. other things i learned down the road that it's easier his way... and he learned that a few things are easier my way. because thats how relationships work. what label you put on it doesn't matter. point being don't go assuming you know more about other peoples lives than they do. spouting cliches doesn't make you look any more dominant no one on the internet cares if you are a "real dom" and don't consider me a "real slave"




Once again, Inigo Montoya said it right.




DerangedUnit -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/3/2014 3:49:08 PM)

dude do you just get off picking fights that make no sense?

submissive is a personality trait, being owned is an act entirely separate from any consideration to personality.

especially weird since in another thread you said you wanted someone just like you.... so you want yourself but submissive.... that makes perfect sense.




Greta75 -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/3/2014 9:57:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit

a few still exist ;) or maybe i got the last.... in which case haha sucker :P


Super envious!!!!




Greta75 -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/3/2014 9:58:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

(1) 3 times a day.



3 times a day is great! Most men can't really do 3 times a day.




DesFIP -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/4/2014 11:51:44 AM)

Of course I'm going to tell him when he's doing something I believe is wrong, but when he says he understands and he still wants it, then he gets that.

Here that mostly comes up in terms of caffeine after 6:00 PM. I remind him that he won't be able to go to sleep early but if he says he needs to stay up finishing some work, then he still gets the caffeine and runs on less sleep the following day.

But I didn't pick someone to fight with until one of us gives up out of sheer exhaustion. I picked someone with a history of excellent decision making who I wouldn't have to fight with.




HalifaxSubRuthD -> RE: sex slaves, well utilized or not? (10/30/2014 8:09:16 AM)

depends on the situation.




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