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FelinePersuasion -> a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/12/2006 2:29:45 AM)
I was wondering can not washing hair often cause seborrheic dermatitis. I wash my hair once a week, but sometimes it's been a little longer depending. It's always worked well for me and I suddenly develope sd, I also have it on my face. I got my eyebrows waxed and after that for like a year or more later the skin is scaley dry red inflamed, dr says it's sebhorrheic too. It says it's caused by Or the cause might be a fungus, called malassezia. This organism is normally present on the skin in small numbers, but sometimes its numbers increase, resulting in skin problems.

Rule -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/12/2006 4:02:06 AM)
Avoid bread, sweets, fruits, nuts, chocolate, icecream, and anything else that you crave or find delicious for two weeks and see if there is an improvement. Keep a diet-symptoms diary. (Everyone with a disease should have such a diary. One half of the page the diet, the other column the symptoms.)

mistoferin -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/12/2006 6:55:29 AM)
Seborrheic dermatitis is basically dandruff. In the searches that I did, it seems that the treatment is more frequent shampooing....and the use of a shampoo designed to treat it. Most that I found recommend shampooing the head for 5 minutes 3 times a week. I wash my hair at least once a day....sometimes more in hot weather....and I have never had dandruff.

bucky5000 -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/12/2006 1:43:25 PM)
if you wash your hair more often, it helps reduce things like fungus and germs and flaky skin....I wash my hair evey day, occasionlly twice, and i have never had a problem with anything like dandruff or head funguses. use selsun blue or head and shoulders every day, or even a stronger shampoo that can be prescribed, and i bet you will see a noticible difference in the skin condition, as well as hair that isn;t icky from not being washed in a week:S

FelinePersuasion -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/12/2006 1:50:22 PM)
Actually my har does not look or is not icky in a weeks time. It's still silky soft and lusterious. Of course maybe other people's hairdon't wheather a week between washing well. I have hair past my tail bone and if I wash it monday it's still gorgious on sunday. Selson blue is what I use now. it is funny to see the bath water rinsing pure blue when I rinse I love that, but other than that it stoped the itch for weeks the first time and then last time it didn;t help at all. Benidryl helps but then it makes me hella sleepy and drugged out feeling. /Rule I don't eat nuts, chocolate, icecream, or fruits lol. And the only milk I drink is soy. I am spoiled I hate the taste of cows milk it makes me flemmy and want to barfish.

lost5159 -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/12/2006 2:04:41 PM)
I'm usually a lurker, but I know how this dilemma feels when it just won't go away. My unmentionables have the same problem. We used Selsun Blue for awhile, but it caused an awful smell to permeate the house due to the byproduct of urea. So, we switched to using something called T/gel by Neutrogena. It's a tar based shampoo that smells to high heaven when you're using it, but it darn sure works! Chris

FelinePersuasion -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/12/2006 2:10:48 PM)
T gel was naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasty lol I've used it before. It didn't help anything either. Like I said benidryl is the only thing that helps the itching but it knocks me out and makes me feel doped up My bf went home the 10th and early in the day I took a benidryl I slept from 1 to 3 lol. half his entire last day with me

anthrosub -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/12/2006 3:23:51 PM)
Selsun Blue and Head and Shoulders both have a PH level higher then the stuff used to clean the floor in an automotive garage. Neither ever worked for me. I use Redken "Solve" anti-dandruff shampoo every morning. I searched for something that genuinely worked and have been using Redken for over 20 years now without problems. anthrosub

smilezz -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/12/2006 3:58:03 PM)
You can also try Denorex or Sebulex. I will say that they smell of tar a bit...they will make your scalp tingle...you can rinse it out and use a normal conditioner. I can say these things work...i get a bout with Psoriasis flair up a few times a year, this is what i use to curb it. Works very well for me and i actually enjoy the tingle on my scalp, helps me to know it's working. ~smilezz~

FelinePersuasion -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/12/2006 4:08:34 PM)
I will have to try those. How expensive is the stuff you use smilezz. I am very cheap I think it's stupid to pay salaon prices for shampoo's and conditioners selson blue was almost 8 bucks and I was out raged but I needed the shampoo. If I simply must have it I'll pay something like that but it makes me cranky lol.

smilezz -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/12/2006 4:21:17 PM)
You can get Denorex at most stores and definately at most pharmacies. It's around $12.00 though. I hate spending that kind of money also, but when you find a product that works, you stick with it. Hope it helps. ~smilezz~

FelinePersuasion -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/12/2006 4:39:55 PM)
smiles me too cause for no reason my hairline will become extreamly dry to the point of being white and I break out in huge scabby spots. Even if I have not been scratching or irritating the skin.

amativedame -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/12/2006 7:43:42 PM)
One of the possible causes of seborrheic dermatitis is fungus/yeast. Try limiting your intake of yeast and see if you find any relief. One of the other things you can try is a shampoo with selenium sulfide, coal tar or pyrithione zinc. You may have to try a few products before you find one that works for you. I believe selson blue has selenium sulfide. One of reasons why it may not be working as well for you is how often you wash your hair. Most consumers on average wash their hair every day to every other day. I know my head and shoulders recommends you use it at least twice a week. I would recommend that you try washing your hair a bit more often. No need to wash it every day, just try and do it 2-3 times a week. You simply aren't giving your scalp as much exposure to the product as originally intended. Try washing it twice a week and see if you get any kind of relief, then take it from there. Your hair doesn't get oily as much as most of the other posters do because that's your normal routine. Your scalp is stimulated to excrete oil every time you wash your hair. Because you only wash it once a week it has a much slower rate of excretion. Its partly why washing "your" hair can more harmful then helpful (if you are doing it because its oily or flat.) By washing it twice you are then stimulating it even more, adding on to your previous reasoning. edited to add: a lot of people & well known medical associations would reccommend frequent washing/bathing of the area as a treatment and preventative measure...

Evanesce -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/12/2006 9:28:58 PM)
Once upon a time, I went to cosmetology school and studied things of this nature; and the Kaptin holds a hairdresser's license; and we're going to agree with amativedame on this one. You need to shampoo more often than you are doing now in order to keep your scalp healthy. You wouldn't go a week without washing your face, would you? It's the same with your scalp. It may be covered with hair, but it's still skin, and it still needs to be cleansed regularly. I would recommend you try Paul Mitchell's Tea Tree shampoo. You can get it at your local hair salon. It's pricier than drug-store brand dandruff shampoos, but it's gentler on your hair.

desertdancer -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/12/2006 10:48:06 PM)
I'll tell you what I tell my clients, even if your hair feels soft and silky, your skin, everyone's skin grows bacteria, and it needs to be cleaned away. Babies often get cradle cap because parents use baby shampoo and thus it's not strong enough to wash away the every day bacteria that grows and it builds up, you've got much the same thing happening to you. I strongly suggest you wash your face every day and your hair at least every other day for a while, use your T-gel and maybe even get yourself a bottle of sea breeze and use it on your scalp, it wont hurt your hair but it will help clear that up for you. I know you don't want to hear this, but hygiene is a big thing in keeping yourself healthy, mostly our sweat doesn't have that foul an odour, however once it touches that bacteria growing on our flesh it oxidizes and makes the smell we use deodorant to fight. I am not saying you have poor hygiene, I'm suggesting you step it up a little more is all good luck, ~dancer

FelinePersuasion -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/13/2006 12:30:18 AM)
I don't wash my face actually, I mean in the shower I do, but I don't buy any facial products for it or anything. As a kid my whole forhead you could play connect the boxes. but thankfully now I don't break out but with hella long hair rubbing your face i do get a stray zit or two. desert I know what you mean about sweat when I start to sweat it's only a little offensive but give me an hour in the heat and I don't feel suitable to be with or around any one lol. The itching stoped somewhat today yay thank god. so 2 or 3 times a week with the special shampoo then one of my regular conditioners!

amativedame -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/13/2006 6:35:16 AM)
just to echo what desertdancer said (and add another quick little tid bit)... craddle cap is what you have, you just aren't a child anymore so we don't call it that. edited to add: I just noted her sea breeze comment... if you do go that route (especially if you've been scratching) you may experience a tingling/burning sensation....

FelinePersuasion -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/13/2006 6:01:31 PM)
Amitav I've been a good little girl and have not scratched ok well not much maybe one lil scratch or two lol.

NorthernGent -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/14/2006 9:45:10 AM)
feline, I will give you some first hand advice here. I used to have it in the good old days when I had hair :-) Only on my head, nowhere else. It came on when I was about 19 and I lost it when I shaved my head completely - obviously I'm not recommending you do the same :-) Here is the advice - washing your hair more frequently will not keep it under control. You need special shampoo, I don't know what you have over there in the US but over here we have a therapeutic shampoo called Capasal with certain properties - this can be bought from the chemists. It did the trick for me and kept it well under control. If you're struggling to find some in the US I'll ship you a load over at a very reasonable price :-) As to why you have it or I had it, well, I've always been fit and healthy, played a lot of sports etc and never been one for eating loads of chocolate, fatty foods etc - so it is not necessarily related to diet. It is more likely you have family members who have suffered from asthma, eczema etc and it has been passed down to you. Then again, I'm no doctor so don't report me to the Royal Society of Medicine if my advice turns out to be nonsense :-) All the best with it, NorthernGent

FelinePersuasion -> RE: a question on Seborrheic Dermatitis (7/14/2006 9:47:29 AM)
Northern Gent well my fcial problems I think was caused by waxing eyebrows and skin irritation. The scalp annoyances could very well be something my family suffers from. Before being diagnosed I did have ocasional splotches of red skin in the hairline.

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