GoddessManko
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How do you imagine this systematic and legalized discrimination of women came about, if not due to the way that society and men view and treat women, at least traditionally? Are you suggesting that women came up with the laws and systems that oppress them? If so, then they have no one to blame but themselves, and us guys can stop taking crap about it. ;-)
OK, I rescind on my apology. freedomdwarf was right, LOL. Did you skip history class? Women's Suffrage is only but a few decades old and women have become ICONIC. What I must wonder is why there are so many incompetent males in this world if indeed they actually are held to a higher regard. Ah yes, because many people are not that bright, and their perceptions are supposed to matter to more intelligent beings because...
Oh and speaking of the male gender, let's look at the stats, 90% of those in prison are male...hmmm...is this all part of the "males do it better" strategy? Because I'm afraid it's falling flat. If you think coming up with laws only to break them is supposed to make a gender somehow the "leader" or "trailblazer" of the species, then I'm sorry, that is quite...LOL.
YOU are the one asking us about why we choose to date submissive males, I find them to be by in large extremely perceptive of the value of their female counterparts. We are different and that's a good thing in my bird's eye view.
Most men I know are weak for one single thing, WOMEN.
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You are forgiven... but I must point out that I never said "unsexy". You said "unattractive", same thing in my book. To-may-toe, to-mah-toe.
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In fact... once again... I have not once in this thread made a value judgement about any personal qualities that anyone could possibly have, or any kinks that anyone could possibly have, or suggested in any way that anyone should adhere to any stereotype, or behave in any proscribed way.
You questioned the attraction to a particular type of man, which is NOT academic. Some people are turned on by lumber. Why not question that instead?
My question was utterly academic, and simply acknowledged the existence of certain social realities of gender stereotyping (unjust and abhorrent as they may be) that not only very obviously continue to exist in society, but have been written about ad nauseam by social academics for decades! And the nature of my question was simply how people deal with, or view, these issues in the framework of a Female led relationship, or in Female dominant relationships in general.
You questioned the attraction to a particular type of man, which is NOT academic. Some people are turned on by lumber. Why not question that instead? Who gives a damn about stereotypes except inbreds? I mean really, what evolved person actually subscribes to those or should even care? WHAT IS YOUR POINT? is my question. Many men who aren't uncouth understand that it's ALWAYS and ALWAYS "ladies first", even when there was an alleged "patriarchal" society. Don't kid yourself into believing that women weren't still fundamentally important to making a relationship WORK, and that still exists today. Puny brained laws enabling gender discrimination have nothing to do with it.
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So far, the answer seems to be that people don't. The best I can tell, people either claim not to acknowledge the gender stereotypes, or integrate them in to their lives without awareness.
OR maybe they're smart enough to not give a damn? Ever cross your mind?
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I think it is wonderful that people make the effort not to place value on traditional gender stereotypes, and are vigilant not to act on them... but in this thread people seem to be claiming that they do not even exist.
The hilarious thing is no one even said that, you're the one who keeps somehow insisting we should care, and we don't.
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I make every effort not to value traditional gender roles as well, and not act on them... but like a tiny stone in my shoe, I am still always aware that they are there... that there is a life time of social programming and influence about gender roles that is ever trying to impinge on my consciousness... not just from my upbringing, but from every corner of society, in media, sports, politics, education... everywhere... to this day.
That's completely untrue but maybe in your world that seems to be the case, my condolences.
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To be vigilant in correcting a social injustice you have to look squarely at it, acknowledge its existence and dissect why it is wrong. You can't just pretend it doesn't exist.
How about not giving small minded people an audience for starters?
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It's like Stephen Colbert's joke about literally not being able to see colour. He is satirizing excessively politically correct thought, and thereby warning of the unintentional damage it sometimes engenders... when simply saying the right words stands in place of - and in the way of - actual understanding and enlightenment.
Where on this side of the greenwich meridian do you see stereotypes tolerated? They're not, but always going to be stupid people. What exactly do you expect us to do about it? And my bolded part of your point pretty much encompasses this bogus argument you're trying to present. 
< Message edited by GoddessManko -- 10/20/2014 11:53:30 PM >
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