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thishereboi -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/10/2014 8:53:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Gauge quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity The protesters are judging the situation on skin color alone It is fairly sad that when a white cop shoots a black person there are riots, political pressure, investigations, huge news reports, town meetings and so on. If a black person shoots a white cop, it is no biggie and very little is heard about it. People judge others on the color of their skin? Let me put on my shock face. Shit like this certainly isn't helping anything. http://news.yahoo.com/angry-protesters-yell-stoic-police-st-louis-050253710.html "This here was racial profiling turned deadly," state Sen. Jamilah Nasheed, a St. Louis Democrat, said at a news conference Thursday. Now there is not way in hell he could know what motivated the off duty cop from chasing the kid but that doesn't stop him from claiming it's a fact. All he is doing is feeding the hate.

stef -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/10/2014 9:49:56 PM)
When I saw the subject of this thread and who had posted it, I thought he had come to a rare moment of self realization. Sadly, that was not the case.

BamaD -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/10/2014 10:04:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef When I saw the subject of this thread and who had posted it, I thought he had come to a rare moment of self realization. Sadly, that was not the case. If the off duty cop had been black and his assailant white do you honestly think there would be protests?

Sanity -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 5:21:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi Shit like this certainly isn't helping anything. http://news.yahoo.com/angry-protesters-yell-stoic-police-st-louis-050253710.html "This here was racial profiling turned deadly," state Sen. Jamilah Nasheed, a St. Louis Democrat, said at a news conference Thursday. Now there is not way in hell he could know what motivated the off duty cop from chasing the kid but that doesn't stop him from claiming it's a fact. All he is doing is feeding the hate. Which, thats the point of the thread. There is no MLK on the scene today, instead they feed the hate as you say

DomKen -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 7:00:54 AM)
Has anyone noticed the radical changes to the police version of the story? At first the kid jumped out the bushes and attacked the cop. Then when photos of the scene were posted showing there were no bushes the bushes disappeared from the story. Then the story became that they struggled and the cop pulled off the kids hoodie before they shot at each other. Then the convenience store video came out showing that he wasn't wearing a hoodie. Then the story changed again to that during the chase the kid fell down and started shooting at the cop while down on the ground. I accept that there is always some confusion in a high stress event but this is too much.

Sanity -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 7:34:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Has anyone noticed the radical changes to the police version of the story? No, no one has as we have yet to see you post any links to substantiate any of these wild-eyed conspiracy charges

DomKen -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 9:17:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Has anyone noticed the radical changes to the police version of the story? No, no one has as we have yet to see you post any links to substantiate any of these wild-eyed conspiracy charges Dumbass. I was hoping you'd take the bait bushes version http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/09/police-say-off-duty-st-louis-cop-shot-teen-who-opened-fire-on-him/ No bushes version http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/10/st-louis-police-officer-fatally-shoots-teenager.html Hoodie version http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-officer-fatally-shoots-teenager-in-south-st-louis/article_2d5a8c2a-97db-5cec-a477-1130d7d26f7e.html video showing the victim showing no hoodie http://launch.newsinc.com/share.html?trackingGroup=69016&siteSection=stltoday&videoId=27593599

Sanity -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 9:24:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Has anyone noticed the radical changes to the police version of the story? No, no one has as we have yet to see you post any links to substantiate any of these wild-eyed conspiracy charges Dumbass. I was hoping you'd take the bait bushes version http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/09/police-say-off-duty-st-louis-cop-shot-teen-who-opened-fire-on-him/ No bushes version http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/10/st-louis-police-officer-fatally-shoots-teenager.html Hoodie version http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-officer-fatally-shoots-teenager-in-south-st-louis/article_2d5a8c2a-97db-5cec-a477-1130d7d26f7e.html video showing the victim showing no hoodie http://launch.newsinc.com/share.html?trackingGroup=69016&siteSection=stltoday&videoId=27593599 This is about "baiting" to you? A serious discussion about people dying and rioting and fomenting racial hatred is all part of some game in your eyes? Why the childishness, dk. How about you grow up some, and then try it again. As to your supposed "gotcha" it is very common in news reporting to have reporters give widely varying accounts, and anyone who has ever been in the news or has known someone who has will know what I mean.

Sanity -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 9:46:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Hoodie version http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-officer-fatally-shoots-teenager-in-south-st-louis/article_2d5a8c2a-97db-5cec-a477-1130d7d26f7e.html video showing the victim showing no hoodie http://launch.newsinc.com/share.html?trackingGroup=69016&siteSection=stltoday&videoId=27593599 Your "hoodie" version said he was wearing a sweatshirt, nothing about a hoodie But in that same article this caught my eye quote: Preliminary autopsy results showed that Vonderrit Myers Jr. was shot from six to seven times in the lower extremities, said Dr. Michael Graham. The fatal shot entered the right cheek and was recovered in the body, Graham said. Sen. Jamilah Nasheed had suggested at a press conference earlier Thursday that the teen had been shot in the back of the head, but the autopsy did not find any gunshots to the back of Myers' head. Certain types (a race hustling politician in this case) do what they have to do, say what they have to say for money and power. The best interests of their constituents means nothing Theyve just gotta fan that hate

dcnovice -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 10:36:16 AM)
quote: It is fairly sad that when a white cop shoots a black person there are riots, political pressure, investigations, huge news reports, town meetings and so on. If a black person shoots a white cop, it is no biggie and very little is heard about it. True. Any slaying, whatever the skin tone of the killer and the killed, should distress us. That said, I think there's an additional factor at work, which I haven't seen mentioned in the thread. That's the weighty hand of history. One of the heartbreaking strands of the American story has been the role of white officials and cops in oppressing black folk. The Fugitive Slave Law comes to mind, as do Jim Crow, fire hoses turned on peaceful protesters, and cops not merely allowing but abetting lynching. Against that backdrop, I understand how any white-kills-black story, particularly if it involves a cop's or quasi-cop's finger on the trigger, can evoke, perhaps subconsciously, the horror and rage of "Fuck! It's happening all over again."

stef -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 11:25:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: When I saw the subject of this thread and who had posted it, I thought he had come to a rare moment of self realization. Sadly, that was not the case. If the off duty cop had been black and his assailant white do you honestly think there would be protests? How did you even get to that from what I posted? Are you drunk?

BamaD -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 11:36:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: When I saw the subject of this thread and who had posted it, I thought he had come to a rare moment of self realization. Sadly, that was not the case. If the off duty cop had been black and his assailant white do you honestly think there would be protests? How did you even get to that from what I posted? Are you drunk? It was a general statement.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 12:00:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: It is fairly sad that when a white cop shoots a black person there are riots, political pressure, investigations, huge news reports, town meetings and so on. If a black person shoots a white cop, it is no biggie and very little is heard about it. True. Any slaying, whatever the skin tone of the killer and the killed, should distress us. That said, I think there's an additional factor at work, which I haven't seen mentioned in the thread. That's the weighty hand of history. One of the heartbreaking strands of the American story has been the role of white officials and cops in oppressing black folk. The Fugitive Slave Law comes to mind, as do Jim Crow, fire hoses turned on peaceful protesters, and cops not merely allowing but abetting lynching. Against that backdrop, I understand how any white-kills-black story, particularly if it involves a cop's or quasi-cop's finger on the trigger, can evoke, perhaps subconsciously, the horror and rage of "Fuck! It's happening all over again." And yet, though your first statement is right...that any killing, regardless of skin tone, should sadden us...it sure seems like it is the mentality displayed in your last statement..."Fuck! It's happening allover again!"... that comes into play more often. How else do you explain the lack of coverage given to a shooting just two days after Ferguson in which a BLACK police officer shot a young white man named Dillon Taylor? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/3/justice-dillon-taylor-after-white-utah-man-fatally/ Of course maybe it's this: While they (Salt Lake City residents) have participated in protests demanding justice for Taylor, these have not been accompanied by rioting, looting, violence, and calls for the murder of police officers — unlike in Ferguson. Or maybe it's because Obama and Holder and others in the government have had nothing to say.

DomKen -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 12:10:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Has anyone noticed the radical changes to the police version of the story? No, no one has as we have yet to see you post any links to substantiate any of these wild-eyed conspiracy charges Dumbass. I was hoping you'd take the bait bushes version http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/09/police-say-off-duty-st-louis-cop-shot-teen-who-opened-fire-on-him/ No bushes version http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/10/st-louis-police-officer-fatally-shoots-teenager.html Hoodie version http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-officer-fatally-shoots-teenager-in-south-st-louis/article_2d5a8c2a-97db-5cec-a477-1130d7d26f7e.html video showing the victim showing no hoodie http://launch.newsinc.com/share.html?trackingGroup=69016&siteSection=stltoday&videoId=27593599 This is about "baiting" to you? A serious discussion about people dying and rioting and fomenting racial hatred is all part of some game in your eyes? Why the childishness, dk. How about you grow up some, and then try it again. As to your supposed "gotcha" it is very common in news reporting to have reporters give widely varying accounts, and anyone who has ever been in the news or has known someone who has will know what I mean. It is when your responses are so predictable and so childish. You have spent pages race baiting. So I dropped the bait and you took it hook, line and sinker. It is not my fault that you are that fucking stupid.

DomKen -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 12:27:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: It is fairly sad that when a white cop shoots a black person there are riots, political pressure, investigations, huge news reports, town meetings and so on. If a black person shoots a white cop, it is no biggie and very little is heard about it. True. Any slaying, whatever the skin tone of the killer and the killed, should distress us. That said, I think there's an additional factor at work, which I haven't seen mentioned in the thread. That's the weighty hand of history. One of the heartbreaking strands of the American story has been the role of white officials and cops in oppressing black folk. The Fugitive Slave Law comes to mind, as do Jim Crow, fire hoses turned on peaceful protesters, and cops not merely allowing but abetting lynching. Against that backdrop, I understand how any white-kills-black story, particularly if it involves a cop's or quasi-cop's finger on the trigger, can evoke, perhaps subconsciously, the horror and rage of "Fuck! It's happening all over again." And yet, though your first statement is right...that any killing, regardless of skin tone, should sadden us...it sure seems like it is the mentality displayed in your last statement..."Fuck! It's happening allover again!"... that comes into play more often. How else do you explain the lack of coverage given to a shooting just two days after Ferguson in which a BLACK police officer shot a young white man named Dillon Taylor? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/3/justice-dillon-taylor-after-white-utah-man-fatally/ Of course maybe it's this: While they (Salt Lake City residents) have participated in protests demanding justice for Taylor, these have not been accompanied by rioting, looting, violence, and calls for the murder of police officers — unlike in Ferguson. Or maybe it's because Obama and Holder and others in the government have had nothing to say. Of course the real differences are so numerous it is hard to even count them. In this case the officer was wearing a body camera so what happened is well known. There is no doubt about whether the officer is telling the truth about what happened leading up to the shooting. As a matter of fact the DA has concluded his investigation and released the body camera footage completely exonerating the officers and showing that Taylor did do things that caused him to get shot. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58472404-78/taylor-cruz-hands-gill.html.csp The problem is probably that you don't bother to poke your head out of the right wing media bubble into reality.

Sanity -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 1:28:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen It is when your responses are so predictable and so childish. You have spent pages race baiting. So I dropped the bait and you took it hook, line and sinker. It is not my fault that you are that fucking stupid. Its gotta hurt to be as stupid as you are

Edwynn -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 1:32:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail A fucking imbecile like yourself does not understand that criticism is speech, and money is not, regardless of what nutsuckers who legislate from the bench say. The freedom of speech I was referring was theirs, and the content of their character being zero was yours, dipshit. The protesters are judging the situation on skin color alone Whereas your whole intention in instigating this OP to begin with had nothing whatsoever to do with skin color, right? Right.

Sanity -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 1:45:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn Whereas your whole intention in instigating this OP to begin with had nothing whatsoever to do with skin color, right? Right. Its perfectly okay to discuss race relations ed. Try breathing into a paper bag or something?

Aylee -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 1:56:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether Should we as a society be concern when private companies have the same powers to police and arrest as government, without the burden of accountability and responsibility with power? An we are not talking just small companies, but large multi-national conglomerates that are held only to whims of the most upper crust of management authority. Tyranny by a corporation(s) was not a problem to the founding fathers back in the 18th century; should we be foolish to ignore this possible reality? They do. You will find those private companies al over the US. We call them colleges and universities.

PeonForHer -> RE: Content of Character: 0 (10/11/2014 1:59:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: When I saw the subject of this thread and who had posted it, I thought he had come to a rare moment of self realization. Sadly, that was not the case. If the off duty cop had been black and his assailant white do you honestly think there would be protests? How did you even get to that from what I posted? Are you drunk? Bama's only been on CM since 2005 - you can't expect him to have learned how to use the quote boxes and stuff like that in such a short time, Stef.

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