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Any subs here like anal play but not men? - 10/11/2014 1:17:16 PM   
A736066919


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Status: offline 		So this primarily applies to straight male subs or lesbian subs. Because I myself am really curious about anal play I was wondering if there are subs out there that don't like dick but tolerate it for the anal? What's more have you found ideal dommes that enjoy anal play or are they in such short numbers that you feel you don't get to enjoy that play? (I target subs rather than slaves, cause slaves tend to be so devoted that sexuality is no obstacle)
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RE: Any subs here like anal play but not men? - 10/12/2014 12:19:55 AM   
FieryOpal


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Status: offline 		I'm not a submissive, but I don't understand what men and men's dicks have to do with anal play. Are you saying that you think other submissives need a live phallic object in order to experience anal penetration? Because there are inanimate phallic objects which do the job, not to mention non-phallic (or not exactly phallic) buttplugs and anal beads. Then there is strap-on play with dildos, which are phallic shaped for practical anatomical purposes.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe you are confusing anal sex with homosexuality or bisexuality, and that isn't the case. Some people, whether vanilla, Dominant, Top, switch, submissive/slave, or bottom are anal-erotic and others aren't. We don't need to use a live cock attached to a male for this purpose unless this happens to be our personal preference.

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RE: Any subs here like anal play but not men? - 10/12/2014 1:38:31 AM   
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I hate to break it to you, but this is wholly untrue. There are plenty of straight male and female slaves. One can not change their sexuality, on a conditional basis; and those of us who list ourselves as straight, mean straight. As an arrow. Not "oh teehee I'm bi for the right dom teehee" No. Just, no.

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RE: Any subs here like anal play but not men? - 10/12/2014 2:23:20 AM   
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One can not change their sexuality, on a conditional basis; and those of us who list ourselves as straight, mean straight. As an arrow. Not "oh teehee I'm bi for the right dom teehee" No. Just, no.

This, exactly this.
Furthermore, BDSM without consent is not BDSM--it's abuse instead.

<Shaking head> OP, you're only an 18-year-old bisexual male switch, so let me explain something. There is nothing "forced" in BDSM either. Even when it "appears" to be, it's called consensual non-consent. Using actual force is committing assault and battery, which is a criminal act. When it involves sex, it becomes sexual assault.

If someone wants cock, they want cock, plain and simple. Being submissive doesn't make taking cock a "forced" activity that you have or hope your Domme will *force* you to do. People need to own their shite.

As to whether there are many Dommes who enjoy ass play, yes there are. However, not all of them engage in strap-on play. Those who do don't go around doing it with just any male sub who's an anal slut either. First of all, Dommes don't ordinarily have penetrative sex (whether giving or receiving) with subs who are not their primary partner. In fact, some are married to a vanilla or even to another Dominant; some are bisexual and prefer for their primary to be a female not a male. As for BDSM providers (who are for hire, such as a Pro-Domme), they don't advertise actual sexual relations. Anal sex is sex. Your money will only be good with a sex worker/call girl escort who may or may not provide anal sexual services.

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RE: Any subs here like anal play but not men? - 10/12/2014 7:25:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: A736066919

So this primarily applies to straight male subs or lesbian subs. Because I myself am really curious about anal play I was wondering if there are subs out there that don't like dick but tolerate it for the anal? What's more have you found ideal dommes that enjoy anal play or are they in such short numbers that you feel you don't get to enjoy that play? (I target subs rather than slaves, cause slaves tend to be so devoted that sexuality is no obstacle)



Huh??? "don't like dick but tolerate it for the anal?" Obviously if you like dick in your ass... over some other object, then you do "like dick" but only in your ass.

And the answer is Yes. There are definitely some people, even straight males and lesbians, who like that. Somewhere in the world there is somebody who likes almost anything you can imagine.

Yes... there are Dommes who enjoy anal play.

Yes... if you can't find a domme who enjoys anal play, then you will not get to enjoy that play.

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RE: Any subs here like anal play but not men? - 10/12/2014 7:33:33 PM   
Bhruic


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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
...First of all, Dommes don't ordinarily have penetrative sex (whether giving or receiving) with subs who are not their primary partner...


You can't really say that with any authority though, can you.

He certainly would be well advised not to expect it, just as a point of respect... but what is true in your experience may not be the case anywhere else.

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RE: Any subs here like anal play but not men? - 10/12/2014 10:48:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bhruic
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

...First of all, Dommes don't ordinarily have penetrative sex (whether giving or receiving) with subs who are not their primary partner...

You can't really say that with any authority though, can you.

He certainly would be well advised not to expect it, just as a point of respect... but what is true in your experience may not be the case anywhere else.

Unless they're all lying to me - both Dommes and male subs alike - and most every (non-lifestyle) Domme profile that pops up in Quick View upon login & logout spells out quite emphatically either not to ever expect any sex, or that only oral worship will be permitted. (This is why I specifically stated 'penetrative,' although I should have specified "live" or "natural," because there are Dommes who have their subs use dildos on them.)

Most (roughly) straight lifestyle Dommes want their primary partner to be their only sexual sub. Non-sexual service subs are another matter. This is because within F/m, we are more FLR-Female Led Relationship oriented, or marriage-minded, and tend to lean toward monogamous LTRs.

It is on these bases that I draw my conclusions, not simply out of my own preferences or those of my (straight lifestyle) Domme friends. Perhaps Dommes do things differently in other countries, who knows, and BDSM providers there (as in Nevada where there is legalized prostitution) may offer a wider range of sexual services as sex workers.

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RE: Any subs here like anal play but not men? - 10/13/2014 3:24:41 AM   
yourpuppytoy


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Status: offline 		I have seen no shortage of Dommes that like anal play. Almost every Domme I have talked to has loved strap-on sex, in fact, and even more male subs I have come across seem to enjoy it as well.

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RE: Any subs here like anal play but not men? - 10/13/2014 6:15:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: yourpuppytoy

I have seen no shortage of Dommes that like anal play.

Admittedly, when it comes to ass play, I've not run into a Domme who doesn't practice either anal play or give bare-assed spankings, or both.

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Almost every Domme I have talked to has loved strap-on sex,

Most kinky women enjoy fucking, too, but that doesn't mean they'll fuck any man in sight with whom they are not in a committed relationship.
When you get a chance, check out some of the threads here on the fora from within the past two years. By an overwhelming majority, Dommes don't go around wanting to play with just any male sub's ass, much less have strap-on sex with a casual play partner.

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in fact, and even more male subs I have come across seem to enjoy it as well.

That's the thing. It's male subs who are feeming for this more than we are, for the most part, who have been watching FemDom porn and think all they have to do is bombard our mailboxes with bare-ass nekkid pics and gaping asses to attract our interest. It doesn't work like that, and there are dozens of threads about how it turns us off when subs do this. (I even hear Doms say they don't want to see gaping [female] asses either.)

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RE: Any subs here like anal play but not men? - 10/13/2014 7:39:02 AM   
Bhruic


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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

Unless they're all lying to me - both Dommes and male subs alike - and most every (non-lifestyle) Domme profile that pops up in Quick View upon login & logout spells out quite emphatically either not to ever expect any sex, or that only oral worship will be permitted. (This is why I specifically stated 'penetrative,' although I should have specified "live" or "natural," because there are Dommes who have their subs use dildos on them.)


I wasn't implying that your experience was incorrect, only that it was only your experience.

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Most (roughly) straight lifestyle Dommes want their primary partner to be their only sexual sub. Non-sexual service subs are another matter. This is because within F/m, we are more FLR-Female Led Relationship oriented, or marriage-minded, and tend to lean toward monogamous LTRs.


This does seem like a very specific group though. I know many Dommes who are part of the full swap swinging lifestyle who view things differently.

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It is on these bases that I draw my conclusions, not simply out of my own preferences or those of my (straight lifestyle) Domme friends. Perhaps Dommes do things differently in other countries, who knows, and BDSM providers there (as in Nevada where there is legalized prostitution) may offer a wider range of sexual services as sex workers.


I wasn't specifically referring to Pro Dommes. In the case of Pro Dommes I would imagine you are probably correct.


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RE: Any subs here like anal play but not men? - 10/13/2014 8:00:22 AM   
FieryOpal


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ORIGINAL: Bhruic
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

Most (roughly) straight lifestyle Dommes want their primary partner to be their only sexual sub. Non-sexual service subs are another matter. This is because within F/m, we are more FLR-Female Led Relationship oriented, or marriage-minded, and tend to lean toward monogamous LTRs.

This does seem like a very specific group though. I know many Dommes who are part of the full swap swinging lifestyle who view things differently.

Your experience may vary given that you are bisexual yourself, of course, but are these poly Dommes bisexual? Straight lifestyle Dommes are less prone to embrace swinging or open marriages. I think you will agree that on average - even in the BDSM community - there are more straight folks than there are hetero-flexible. It would be the swingers who are more of a specific group in the minority.

(In an earlier post I had briefly touched upon bisexual Dommes who might have a female primary rather than a male primary partner, and could possibly have both in terms or a primary of each gender.)

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RE: Any subs here like anal play but not men? - 10/13/2014 2:37:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		The op is barely legal, I don't think he's had any experience.

Many dommes insist on piv with their male sub partners. Why? Because they enjoy penetrative sex and aren't willing to be denied what they need. Which usually is a good thing for everyone; tops, bottoms, subs, dominants, slaves, masters. Figure out what you need to be happy and don't accept a relationship that will not fulfill you.

But the 'forced bi' stuff is nonsense. If you really want a dick in your ass, then own your own desires. Don't try to claim you were raped by proxy.

< Message edited by DesFIP -- 10/13/2014 2:39:06 PM >

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RE: Any subs here like anal play but not men? - 10/13/2014 3:49:32 PM   
GoddessManko


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Status: offline 		FR~ Just because someone disagrees with you is not a green light to hit below the belt. Am opine may or may not be related to the individual experience but the experience of others they have encountered. They might know thousands of people, you might know a few dozen.
There are sub men who enjoy such play but there are variables that need to be there. For some it's a hard sell but if their D is present they may be more obliged to do forced bi.
Strap on sex is not exactly taboo for many female Doms. He was asking about anal play, not forced bi if I understand his OP. But if his definition of forced bi is anal play then you would be looking at a Female poly household OP. Or being a secondary to a primary couple. Or even a playmate for a D/D or D/s dynamic.
I have to agree poly play is not uncommon nor is "forced bi" impossible, For some male subs it is a hard sale. A D may work on establishing their relationship and trust first before bringing it up in conversation. Chances are he would oblige to make her happy, but won't be crazy about the idea.

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RE: Any subs here like anal play but not men? - 10/14/2014 12:56:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GoddessManko

He was asking about anal play, not forced bi if I understand his OP. But if his definition of forced bi is anal play then you would be looking at a Female poly household OP. Or being a secondary to a primary couple. Or even a playmate for a D/D or D/s dynamic.


I think that it's fairly obvious that our young barely legal, and therefore inexperienced, OP is under the impression that in order to get his butt itch scratched, a live cock attached to a person of the male persuasion is somehow mandatory. Given that he is bisexual, I'm making an educated guess that he WANTS this type of encounter rather than strap-on play. That would fall under a "forced" bi-type scenario.

But you're right about his options. His best bet would be as a play partner 3rd to a D/s or D/D couple, hopefully one who would break him in gradually.

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