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HeartAndSoul31 -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 5:42:39 AM)

In response to your question my personal opinion is bdsm communities are a perfect place for asexuals to possibly find a partner/mate because of diverse likes and dislikes. Opposed to a vanilla site where people are not as open to differences, or I should say most people.
I saw a man for 4 years that did not identify with being asexual but in my mind I would classify him there. He did not engage in intercourse nor touch a partner in anyway sexually. He might run his hands through hair or touch your chin but this was the extent of it. He engaged/ allowed oral sex only, and did not reciprocate of course. He did not feel romantic feelings nor desire for intercourse. We had many conversations and he stated he was like this from the beginning.
Although he was not a good match for me because I require reciprocation, romance, inter course etc. since I am for the most part vanilla, I think success in this type of forum or community would be the best bet. We did not meet in this type of setting, I only found this site because of the many questions I had, trying to understand his human behavior. I definitely learned that there are a whole lot of diverse tastes and fluid differences then I ever imagined.




GoddessManko -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 6:35:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist

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Women rarely have true fetishes where they must have a specific object for them to become aroused.

Knives.
All I have to do is look at a knife, imagine it on my skin, cutting the skin...and WOW....intensely erotic and arousing images begin to flow through the mind
[:D]


I have to say that's impressive. I actually would respond with something that might seem unusual. But I never understood the appeal women have to penetrative toys. Sometimes I literally wake up craving to be penetrated but they literally do nothing for me as far as desire to use them on myself. To use on others, yes, absolutely always open to such activity. I would also say in response to MariaB's post that I have never felt more inclined to any particular gender. I am highly tactile and very sensory.The minimal amount of contact sends my desire into over drive. I "hung out" with a vanilla boy not too long ago. He kind of ended up holding my hand during a movie surprisingly and that alone made me kind of pay careful attention to my breathing because it was getting heavier and didn't want him to notice. I really dislike being touched by most people aside from a handshake, maybe a sideway kiss on the cheek, a hug is pushing it. A prolonged hug is a hurdle.
Edited to add; This might sound very lewd/lascivious but despite my restraint from engaging anyone I don't have a deep connection with, and a lack of desire to use toys on myself (depending on the circumstance, becoming more open to it now though yet to try it), I do have a complete fascination with phallus, whether manufactured or real. So I guess slight preference goes to someone who possesses such. Part of why I watched the Nymphomaniac series is I heard it had a lot of cocks. I enjoy them in a sort of detached setting if it isn't mine. It has to be mine (even on my s) for me to engage.




Greta75 -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 7:16:17 AM)

I also have no idea what you're talking about, but recently, I read a news about a woman, who looks like a woman. Has breasts and vagina on the outside. But did not have her period. So at 23 yr old, she finally got herself checked out, and through x-ray or something, her insides are apparently like a male, even though her outside is perfectly female. So she has internal male parts but external female parts.
And she's categorized as a asexual.

So it was very confusing for her as all her life she thought she was a female and now she does not know what she is. Her DNA is male too.




starkem -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 7:23:30 AM)

You are quite possessive, but I don't blame you. There is some advantage to owning your s/. I fear I will not be enough eventually, because I am going to turn you out to the point your desires exponentially increases.




searching4mysir -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 8:14:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I also have no idea what you're talking about, but recently, I read a news about a woman, who looks like a woman. Has breasts and vagina on the outside. But did not have her period. So at 23 yr old, she finally got herself checked out, and through x-ray or something, her insides are apparently like a male, even though her outside is perfectly female. So she has internal male parts but external female parts.
And she's categorized as a asexual.

So it was very confusing for her as all her life she thought she was a female and now she does not know what she is. Her DNA is male too.


Sounds to me as if she was more intersex and was chosen to be made female as an infant and never told.




MariaB -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 8:45:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I also have no idea what you're talking about, but recently, I read a news about a woman, who looks like a woman. Has breasts and vagina on the outside. But did not have her period. So at 23 yr old, she finally got herself checked out, and through x-ray or something, her insides are apparently like a male, even though her outside is perfectly female. So she has internal male parts but external female parts.
And she's categorized as a asexual.

So it was very confusing for her as all her life she thought she was a female and now she does not know what she is. Her DNA is male too.


That isn't asexual, its something called Androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS). She was born with an xy set of hormones (which are male) but the testes stay inside the body and the genitals will develop and appear to be female. There are different degrees which means AIS children can grow up to feel completely male or completely female.




Greta75 -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 4:44:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir
Sounds to me as if she was more intersex and was chosen to be made female as an infant and never told.

But her physical appearance, she has real vagina and real boobs, so her parents never knew she was male inside too.




Greta75 -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 4:46:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MariaB


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I also have no idea what you're talking about, but recently, I read a news about a woman, who looks like a woman. Has breasts and vagina on the outside. But did not have her period. So at 23 yr old, she finally got herself checked out, and through x-ray or something, her insides are apparently like a male, even though her outside is perfectly female. So she has internal male parts but external female parts.
And she's categorized as a asexual.

So it was very confusing for her as all her life she thought she was a female and now she does not know what she is. Her DNA is male too.


That isn't asexual, its something called Androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS). She was born with an xy set of hormones (which are male) but the testes stay inside the body and the genitals will develop and appear to be female. There are different degrees which means AIS children can grow up to feel completely male or completely female.


Yup, something like that, I can't imagine that. My own mother only had her period AFTER she gave birth to me, at 23.

It's a serious identity crisis to be male inside and physically female outside.




BecomingV -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 9:59:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: starkem

demisexuals are not sexually attracted to anyone of any gender

Demisexuals are not choosing to abstain; they simply lack sexual attraction until a close relationship is formed.

Though factors such as looks and personality do not affect primary sexual attraction for demisexuals/b],


I also had to put in some effort to understand your OP, but thanks for posting. :)

I've never heard the term before, but that does describe me. I've wondered over the years why the men I feel chemistry with don't look like commercial versions of sexy. I can appreciate the beauty of virtually everyone. But, I walk around and don't even notice that men are looking at me, and they do, according to those I am with who do notice. LOL I just figured I was "different."

I have no moral objection to picking up a stranger for sex and in my youth, I deliberately did just that to see if it was for me. It wasn't. Kind of boring and forgettable. Which is not to say that the sex was bad... just...didn't "reach" me.

During an almost 9 year relationship, we were in a constant state of chemical connection, we had so much sex it was like it never really stopped. Outsiders may have wondered how we ever had time for anything else!

But, when not in a relationship, I literally walk around and it's like men are invisible to me as potential mates. This isn't a love thing or any kind of traditional value or adherence to social limitations on female sexuality. It's just like the switch is turned off, towards others. Or, like wearing blinders, but not because I've chosen to... it just happens.

Because of the highly sexual nature of my relationships, I'm wondering how I could fit under a label that is connected to asexuality.

Got any wisdom on that? Does it mean the term does not fit me?

I do think that this way of being has enhanced my ability to form and maintain platonic friendships with men over the course of many decades. Their wives/partners feel perfectly secure about their friendships, with me. Just an observation. :)




sexyred1 -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 10:16:16 PM)

Ah words....to me the term demisexual, which is the first time I am hearing it, just means being picky.




starkem -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 10:39:30 PM)

BecomingV it would be difficult to give you an exact designation, and I am also opposed to others telling someone this is your label. For the sake of discussion, however, you seem to be in limbo and somewhere along the spectuprum of default asexuality. It's like this place where I don't want tobe sexually has somehow become my life. Isn't it great though that friendships can sometimes fill that void of intimacy to the point that you aren't even aware or care. Hopefully this is temporary, and you can find your way back to that ideal person and sex in abundance.

Your ideal situation that you are waiting patiently to enter has been usurped by hapenstance with the resultant undesired sexual inactivity mode. To call any of these forms of asexuality a trait would suggest an insistence on some sort of permanent state, but I would not venture to read too much into the latter. Damn I think I need my professor glasses and my pseudoscience guidebook. What a crafty diagnosis I have made in my invisible mode. I hope this is not more confusing. The OP appears to have gone on holiday. ;). Hopefully this answer will suffice until his return.




starkem -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 10:41:54 PM)

Bravo, sexyred1. Your answer is more concise and to point!




BecomingV -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 11:09:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

Ah words....to me the term demisexual, which is the first time I am hearing it, just means being picky.


ROFL

It feels like culture shock, but an internal one. If I didn't have strong, lasting and nurturing bonds with others, I'd say I go from being intensely connected, to not connected at all. But that feeling is very specific - limited in scope.

I have no need of a label. What is intriguing me here is the primary versus secondary attraction stuff. This does explain why I find myself suddenly awakened and seriously lusting after someone who for some reason unknown to me, has captured my attention. It's powerful, riveting and compelling.

And, the guy is not someone I would choose if you gave me a bunch of pictures to look at and asked me to show you my type. I don't think anyone is ugly. I'm not being "nice" by saying that, I'm being literal. It's more a matter of if he's sexy, he couldn't look better. And, when I say sexy, I mean the chemistry generated between us. Electric.

It doesn't feel like I'm being picky or even like I'm choosing. I'm shocked when this happens. Actually, I'm shocked that it ever happened more than once.

Maybe this would be more clear. What's the difference between a celibate and an asexual person?




starkem -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 11:23:11 PM)

Celibacy is potentially temporary as a conscious choice while asexuality is supposedly hard wired into the subconscious and less likely to change that mindset and/or behaviors.

Though I'm still in favor of asexuality equals pickiness. Simple, yet brilliant breakdown analysis.




BecomingV -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 11:25:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: starkem

Celibacy is potentially temporary as a conscious choice while asexuality is supposedly hard wired into the subconscious and less likely to change that mindset and/or behaviors.

Though I'm still in favor of asexuality equals pickiness. Simple, yet brilliant breakdown analysis.


Okay, I'll go with that!




starkem -> RE: Asexuality (11/5/2014 11:36:24 PM)

And I hope this promising new guy brings you the ideal satiation and chemistry. Enjoy the possibility in the moment. :)




yellus77 -> RE: Asexuality (11/6/2014 2:03:18 AM)

why i cant send messages nor receivingn messages?




MariaB -> RE: Asexuality (11/6/2014 3:06:43 AM)

Yep, its a shame he's not been back yet. Him being part of the thread would encourage others to write more.




FieryOpal -> RE: Asexuality (11/6/2014 4:46:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BecomingV

I've never heard the term before, but that does describe me. I've wondered over the years why the men I feel chemistry with don't look like commercial versions of sexy.
<snip>
But, when not in a relationship, I literally walk around and it's like men are invisible to me as potential mates. This isn't a love thing or any kind of traditional value or adherence to social limitations on female sexuality. It's just like the switch is turned off, towards others. Or, like wearing blinders, but not because I've chosen to... it just happens.

Because of the highly sexual nature of my relationships, I'm wondering how I could fit under a label that is connected to asexuality.

Got any wisdom on that? Does it mean the term does not fit me?

I do think that this way of being has enhanced my ability to form and maintain platonic friendships with men over the course of many decades. Their wives/partners feel perfectly secure about their friendships, with me. Just an observation. :)

Look up sapiosexual. Sapiosexuals are only attracted to someone they have an intellectual connection with. It is part of what determines whether they have sexual chemistry with a potential mate. Physical appearance is secondary or tertiary.

Many go through long periods of celibacy having little to do with their degree of sex drive. They are able to sublimate their animal or more primal instincts.

Basically, anybody who can be indiscriminate or have superficial standards (hotness factor based on looks) of attraction is not a sapiosexual, meaning you don't have to possess a genius I.Q. to be one. You just have to find those who are of high intellect to be sexually attractive or irresistible.




ExiledTyrant -> RE: Asexuality (11/6/2014 5:30:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal



Look up sapiosexual. Sapiosexuals are only attracted to someone they have an intellectual connection with. It is part of what determines whether they have sexual chemistry with a potential mate. Physical appearance is secondary or tertiary.


Amen.

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Many go through long periods of celibacy having little to do with their degree of sex drive. They are able to sublimate their animal or more primal instincts.



Yep.

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Basically, anybody who can be indiscriminate or have superficial standards (hotness factor based on looks) of attraction is not a sapiosexual, meaning you don't have to possess a genius I.Q. to be one. You just have to find those who are of high intellect to be sexually attractive or irresistible.


And another AMEN!

When I was young I ran through more trim than a finish carpenter, but the older I got the more apparent it became that I needed substance. It took me a minute to realize that my ability to commit was best served intellectually, emotionally, spiritually (non-religious spirituality, it's more of an animal thang), and lastly physically.

It is a very good thing that I am happy alone... pesky fucking standards and all... because my facets of attraction are quite numerous and the qualities I look for are a bit hard to find in one package. To further compound my conundrum, many women immediately disqualify themselves with me because they assume I wouldn't be attracted to them and without understanding how I perceive beauty (everyone sees it differently) or understanding the order of my attraction, they put forth no effort. On the other end of the spectrum, I get the chick version of the mail our Ladies and /girls get. Another reason I've suppressed my profile... you can only take so much mail from people that are so far from what you are attracted it to it makes you want to drop a nuke on their gene pool.

Though the worst are the ones that obsessively think that "once He figures out what a special snowflake I am, He wont be able to live without me". It takes about one CMail to figure just how special that snowflake is and I turn up the sun to XI.

Jus sayin




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