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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/4/2015 1:43:53 PM   
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of course men's nipples are sensitive and they enjoyed them being licked and suck its not a woman only thing but it wont make them cum for 10 minutes
god gave women an advantage in the sex department , the only real problem is people call women names for enjoying it when we should celebrate it

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/4/2015 1:46:37 PM   
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your little quote of "and are lesser then men" is sexist and pathetic



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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/4/2015 1:49:16 PM   
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and no more sensible than.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/4/2015 4:08:51 PM   
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I've realized by mentioning a Female God at time's, it really does bring out the sexist people out in the fold. They just can't seem to help themselves. Its almost as if they have a obsessive-compulsive urge to foam at the mouth and rant with their sexist mentality. Its kind of sad really..

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/4/2015 4:19:09 PM   
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That said. I am glad this topic has received so much feedback. It has helped me learn a little bit more of the "Feminine Divine" so to speak. I've noticed some people I've talked with use the term "Mother God" and "God our Mother". My view is simple. I believe that "Mother God/Father God" are of the same Spirit. Like 2 sides to a coin. I don't believe in many Gods or Goddess's. I do however, can find the myth behind the ancient Gods and Goddess's to be interesting when it comes to their myths and how their lessons can be applied in modern times. That is sort of how I view a lot of "religions". I try to look at the positive aspect to some religions and I disregard the negative angles. When I say I am spiritual, non-religious, that isn't just a slogan for me. That is how I live. As for the Atheist and Agnostic, I have no issue there. I have good friends who are Atheists. Some of them have a better sense of ethics, that many religious fanatics. I am quite content with my spirituality. I don't try to "force" it on others. I do however, from time to time, try to bring up interesting topics for debate though. 1 thing has changed for me. I use to keep my spirituality to myself. Now I am willing to be more open and talk about it a little more. I learn a lot myself from others who have open minded views. I have taken a rest from all this spiritual discovery though. I've learned a lot and I enjoy the debates. That said, sometimes its good to just sit back and enjoy the simple things in life. Now that can be very spiritual as well!

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/5/2015 6:13:31 AM   
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welcome to the boards
are you saying that god gave nipples to adam for a reason?



Actually I think he is saying that he really doesn't know that much about women and hopes he never learns. Now I realize that it's probably not his intention to say this, but that's what he is saying.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/5/2015 7:56:40 AM   
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welcome to the boards
are you saying that god gave nipples to adam for a reason?


I think he's claiming that he's really REALLY inbred.

Well past unsurvivable levels of inbreeding and even into the realm of human asexual reproduction.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/5/2015 8:01:27 AM   
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LOL Boi, yep I totally agree, and yes to GOt too, I noticed he didnt come back, maybe his mom came home?

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/5/2015 8:10:15 AM   
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of course men's nipples are sensitive and they enjoyed them being licked...

Ummmm..... no!!!
Yours may be, but mine aren't.
And I really hate them being licked and sucked - sooo annoying, irritating and distracting!


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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/5/2015 8:49:33 AM   
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I believe, like the X-Files say, "the truth is out there." At some point, our beliefs in the subject don't matter. You can believe a lie, it doesn't make it true, and you can not believe the truth, and doesn't make it a false. I think that all religions splintered from the truth, whatever "it" is, and that's how they were formed: someone knew the truth, but, like in the childhood game "telephone," the original message got distorted and transformed into the things we believe now. Just look at the Holy Bible, for example, and look at how many different religions/sects have occurred with that as a basis. We might never know the truth, at least until we die and can meet Him/Her and find out for ourselves. I can see it now, walking up to the Divine Being/s and saying "show me your privates..." Come to think of it, would such a Being even have genitalia? For all we know He could be a hermaphrodite, a transgender, or even an asexual being...

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/6/2015 2:18:38 PM   
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I think that all religions splintered from the truth, whatever "it" is, and that's how they were formed: someone knew the truth...


Whatever gave you that idea?

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/6/2015 6:20:56 PM   
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I've done a lot of reading over the years and some of what I used to read was mythology. Lots of them have similar creation stories. Also, most (if not all) religions are extremely similar, even if they don't believe in the same god/gods. Most of what I know is Christianity. Look at its history. All Christianity was originally one religion, then there was a schism and it divided into multiple sects, and all of that happened in about 1500 years. So if that can happen in so little time, then what about the 5000+ years of humanity? Even in the Bible, God never says he is the only god, he says he is the most powerful and a very jealous god, but never that he's the ONLY one. It even mentions beings that are above angels and archangels, so those could EASILY be all the other gods/goddesses that people believe in. Just saying...

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/7/2015 10:23:37 AM   
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I've done a lot of reading over the years and some of what I used to read was mythology. Lots of them have similar creation stories. Also, most (if not all) religions are extremely similar, even if they don't believe in the same god/gods. Most of what I know is Christianity. Look at its history. All Christianity was originally one religion, then there was a schism and it divided into multiple sects, and all of that happened in about 1500 years. So if that can happen in so little time, then what about the 5000+ years of humanity? Even in the Bible, God never says he is the only god, he says he is the most powerful and a very jealous god, but never that he's the ONLY one. It even mentions beings that are above angels and archangels, so those could EASILY be all the other gods/goddesses that people believe in. Just saying...



I think when we're talking about humanity, it may go far beyond 5000 years, perhaps 100,000 to 200,000 years (or even possibly more). In trying to consider how early humans must have related to their environment, to nature, to the world and universe which was around them, they wouldn't have immediately known what the sun or the moon were. They may not have assumed them to be "gods" at first, but they might have thought of them as living creatures - just like any of the animals they would have seen around them. Perhaps they might have thought the same about the sea, or a lightning storm, or the wind, or a volcano, or any other phenomenon of nature which we understand on a completely different level nowadays.

All they really would have known at that point is that it was something they couldn't control, something that was more powerful than they were - and they didn't know what it was or where it came from. Human imagination being what it is, is it possible that they may have ascribed a certain sentience and intelligence to the natural phenomena they observed around them? Is it also possible that, as human societies became more politically developed under more complex hierarchies, wouldn't that also be reflected in humans' perception of these same phenomena?

Just as humans eventually developed and understood political concepts related to having a "king" and "queen," the same idea could have been transposed to their imagined hierarchy of "gods" and "goddesses" which they perceive as governing and controlling the various forces of nature which they still didn't understand all that well. We had a god of the sea, a goddess of the moon, a god of the sun, and even a god of war and a goddess of love - along with a slew of other deities and bizarre creatures - titans, medusas, minotaurs, giant beanstalks, and so on.

Of course, it was usually a different set-up of "gods" and "goddesses" depending on which country you were in or which culture or area of the world you grew up in. There would usually be one "god" who would be more powerful than the rest and act as the "chief god," although the other gods and goddesses had free will and didn't always toe the line - which always made life for us mere mortals all the more interesting. Other cultures believed that there was only just a single "god" with a hierarchy of angels instead, and the angels were said to have no free will, except for Lucifer and his followers, as the story goes.

So, instead of having something analogous to a council of village elders or a town mayor with limited powers, the perception of "spiritual authority" then becomes that of an absolute, infallible dictator who controls everything. Humans had already invented the idea of "empire" and "dictatorship," so it would naturally follow that their perceptions of religious hierarchy would follow suit.

I don't know if any of it derives from any original "truth" that somebody figured out at some point. I don't think anyone is any different from anyone else in terms of wondering about the nature of our existence and the deeper questions of "what's it all about." I think it's all just an elaborate form of speculation, guessing, and filling in the blanks with our imaginations - things we hope to be true but aren't entirely sure of.



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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/9/2015 4:33:24 AM   
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I've done a lot of reading over the years and some of what I used to read was mythology. Lots of them have similar creation stories. Also, most (if not all) religions are extremely similar, even if they don't believe in the same god/gods. Most of what I know is Christianity. Look at its history. All Christianity was originally one religion, then there was a schism and it divided into multiple sects, and all of that happened in about 1500 years. So if that can happen in so little time, then what about the 5000+ years of humanity? Even in the Bible, God never says he is the only god, he says he is the most powerful and a very jealous god, but never that he's the ONLY one. It even mentions beings that are above angels and archangels, so those could EASILY be all the other gods/goddesses that people believe in. Just saying...


Sure, religions have plagiarized from previous religions, what about that causes you to think there was a true version?






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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/19/2015 3:14:33 PM   
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Well, from what I have read, Goddess worship may have been the original "belief" long before any other "religions" came around. This could explain the ancient Goddess/Female statues that have been found. Goddess worship was gradually suppressed as "male dominated" cultures started to spring up. But Goddess worship never truly disappeared. The Goddess never left and She is now just becoming more "known" again.

For myself personally, I choose to believe in the "Mother Goddess" on a spiritual and psychological level. I still believe in the "Father God". I understand the healthy balance here between both the masculine and feminine divine. On a psychological level, I do find some comfort in the idea of a Mother Goddess. As a male submissive, I do not struggle with the idea of a spiritual "Goddess", an all powerful Female "God". I realize there is a link there. That doesn't mean I sexually worship the "Mother Goddess". My faith in the Mother Goddess goes far beyond that. I just don't have an issue with an all powerful "Feminine God".

Many people believe in whatever works for them. I have friends from all walks of life and beliefs, or no beliefs. I just know what works for me.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/21/2015 1:56:03 AM   
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This report might be of interest: An elderly American Catholic priest who was officially dead for almost an hour claims to have met God and that God is female:
"A Catholic priest from Massachussetts was officially dead for more than 48 minutes before medics were able to miraculously re-start his heart has revealed a shocking revelation that will change everything you once believed.

The 71-year-old cleric Father John Micheal O’Neal claims he went to heaven and met God, which he describes as a warm and comforting motherly figure. [...] The elderly man claims that he has clear and vivid memories of what happened to him while he was dead. He describes a strange out-of-body experience, experiencing an intense feeling of unconditional love and acceptance, as well as being surrounded by an overwhelming light.

He claims that at that point in his experience, he went to heaven and encountered God, which he describes as a feminine, mother-like “Being of Light. Her presence was both overwhelming and comforting” states the Catholic priest. “She had a soft and soothing voice and her presence was as reassuring as a mother’s embrace. The fact that God is a Holy Mother instead of a Holy Father doesn’t disturb me, she is everything I hoped she would be and even more!
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Despite the disapproval of his superiors, Father O’neal says that he will continue dedicating his life to God and spread the word of the “Holy Mother”. “I wish to continue preaching” says the elderly cleric. “I would like to share my new knowledge of the Mother, the Son and the Holy Ghost with all catholics and even all Christians. God is great and almighty despite being a woman…”

http://starrfmonline.com/1.2002887

And to think that the Catholic Church won't even let women become priests...... They'd better hope (and pray) that God(ess) isn't a feminist!


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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/21/2015 11:27:20 AM   
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History presents an interesting picture.

What we consider "Christian" mainly comes as a result of the Council of Nicea in 1054AD. The council edited and chose Christian documents for inclusion in the official bible that supported Constantine's policies for declaring Christianity the official religion of Rome. This was also when the dissenters to the majority at the council formed the Greek Orthodox church. Just as, politically, Rome split into the Western Roman Empire and the Eastern Roman Empire; Christianity split into Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox.

One of the things that was left out that some of the earlier sects believed was the concept of divine gnosis, the union of male and female components of the divine. There was a belief in the tantric gnosis that when a man and woman coupled as a sacrament; a simultaneous orgasms allowed them to touch the mind of god. Yep, just a bit of oddball history that doesn't make the popular texts.

Another bit of trivia.... the Shakers also referee to God as "The Bright Mother". Too bad there weren't movie cameras in their day. It would have been interesting to see hundreds worshiping through dance.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/21/2015 11:44:36 AM   
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Sure, religions have plagiarized from previous religions, what about that causes you to think there was a true version?


Some bloke did put that forward as a hypothesis some time ago. It might have been Erich Von Daniken - I don't know, I never read the book. Anyway, he pointed to various commonalities in the world's great religions. It's been a recurrent theme over the centuries, from what I hear.

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/21/2015 11:46:31 AM   
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The 71-year-old cleric Father John Micheal O’Neal claims he went to heaven and met God, which he describes as a warm and comforting motherly figure.


Was she a nice-looking Sheila, did Father John say? I mean, you know, fanciable?

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RE: Goddess Spirituality/Feminine Divine - 2/21/2015 12:54:24 PM   
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That is very interesting. I have read from others who have had similar experiences and said that God was She. But not from a Pastor before. I have talked to a few people in person who have had near death experiences and they felt this white light surrounding them. A positive light.

There is a cute cartoon that I have seen. It shows the 3 main religions of the world, all 3 are men, standing at the gates of heaven and who is standing by the gates? The Mother Goddess! I hope the Goddess has some mercy on some of these male sexist men! She probably does but a good lesson in not putting others down might be in order!

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