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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/17/2015 12:13:10 AM

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at 15 years old... you are hardly a "child". I was already in the lifestyle and had started my first LTR that lasted 10 years when I was 15. I took her as my submissive. What I don't get is why a boy would turn in that nice cheerleader that did a strip tease and blew him? What's this world coming to?

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/17/2015 1:47:19 AM

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I will now lock the thread and do some cleaning.

We must be very careful how we word things. The laws are what they are and we go by those laws. If you all don't agree with the laws, you know what to do about it, but we won't be using the site that we don't individually own for any personal agenda someone may have. If you wish to take risks, please do it on your own time and not here.

When members discuss the topic it can be done without seemingly encouraging what is unlawful.

If we continue to get too close to that line on these threads and so far recently every thread has gone too far, I will consider not allowing any talk of minors whatsoever. Have a care for the site or mama bear mod3 is going to be roaring. I am serious. We are not playing games here.

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/17/2015 2:43:30 AM

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I've removed a number of posts and most were quoting or responding to a post that required removal. I've now been working over fourteen hours trying to catch up from being away and I am not going to be sending email unless the post really requires some understanding of what went too far.

The discussion about the difference between girls or boys going through similar events, is valid and okay.

The discussion of the age of consent, how it was long ago, etc. is getting us into trouble. If it sounds in any way that someone is encouraging what is unlawful, even if you are not and it just could be seen that way, I have to pull it.

So far we have fought to enable you all to talk about some touchy subjects and have spent many hours debating things, validating things, opposing things and losing sleep. Why take risks? Having the site here and available to people that wish to live alternative lifestyles as adults shouldn't be lost because people are willing to do unlawful things, encourage them, or are just playing devils advocate. This is one of those topics that we are very serious about and if we even think that you are 'going there', you won't be here. That isn't a threat and I don't mean it as such. It is just the way it is and we aren't messing around. Because some wish to do things, should everyone lose out? I don't think so. So lets consider others that are here and how bdsm could be viewed, right or wrong in your opinion. Just don't do it.

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/17/2015 1:28:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

at 15 years old... you are hardly a "child". I was already in the lifestyle and had started my first LTR that lasted 10 years when I was 15. I took her as my submissive. What I don't get is why a boy would turn in that nice cheerleader that did a strip tease and blew him? What's this world coming to?

I don't think she was a nice cheerleader, RS. In fact, after reading about her, I think she was right old vinegary strumpet. I'd have been fine with the whole thing if she'd been, say, under thirty - but she's actually quite wrinkly. All quite disgusting, really.

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/17/2015 2:04:33 PM

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Oh whoops, sorry, M3.

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/18/2015 8:41:45 AM

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at 15 years old... you are hardly a "child". I was already in the lifestyle and had started my first LTR that lasted 10 years when I was 15. I took her as my submissive. What I don't get is why a boy would turn in that nice cheerleader that did a strip tease and blew him? What's this world coming to?

I don't think she was a nice cheerleader, RS. In fact, after reading about her, I think she was right old vinegary strumpet. I'd have been fine with the whole thing if she'd been, say, under thirty - but she's actually quite wrinkly. All quite disgusting, really.

Wow peon, that is so wrong, LOL. And the law does not work that way. Simply because she wasn't a life sized Barbie doesn't change things. If you are dominant sexually at a young age, you are still on some level in control of the situation. If people of the same age decide to do the horizontal mambo then it is likely to be more because of peer-to-peer kind of incidence rather than something like 80 year old female marries 30 year old male. That requires a bit of reaching from either side. My thought is simply this, why not let someone that young make the choice, AT LEAST their first time? It shouldn't be something coerced from someone which men have tried to do time and time again with me. The recovery for some is pretty hard after a bad romantic/sexual experience. It can be a deeper tragedy than most other things. A young male charged with all kinds of hormones and sexual curiosity unlikely has the capacity to resist because of that terrible word "rape" or the stigma carried for men to never say no to a woman if he is straight. On top of all the other thoughts that may have been floating in his head as she took away his ability to make that decision. He will likely stop over-thinking it and simplify it for sake of closure. "Women= sex". Beyond that would require too much self examining. She catalyzed what was supposed to be a gradual process.

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/18/2015 4:37:25 PM

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Wow peon, that is so wrong, LOL.

Quite right, GM. I don't know what came over me. :-(

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/18/2015 5:45:49 PM

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Molly Shattuck teen sex abuse case heads to court for hearing Wednesday

A hearing in the case of Molly Shattuck, the former Ravens cheerleader accused of sexually assaulting a 15-year-old boy, is scheduled for Wednesday in Georgetown, Del.

Shattuck, 47, faces nine criminal charges, including third-degree rape, for allegedly performing oral sex on the boy in a Bethany Beach rental property last summer while her three children were sleeping. She has pleaded not guilty.

Shattuck invited the boy to join her and her children and their friends at a rented beach house in Bethany Beach over Labor Day weekend, according to the documents. She gave the boy wine and beer, then pulled him away from the other teenagers by saying he needed to go to bed, the documents allege.

She then brought the boy to her bedroom, stripped down to her underwear and performed oral sex on him, according to the documents. She invited him to have sexual intercourse, documents say, but he decided to leave.

The indictment charged Shattuck with two counts of third-degree rape

What do you think of this wet-dream story for local news reporters?

I think if a man would go to prison for 30 years, she should as well.

(I also wish she was my teacher).

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/20/2015 11:49:39 PM

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MILF or not, how damaging to a developing psyche and self-image would these comments be?
-- Unflattering remarks about one's genitals and/or other parts of one's body
-- Comparisons of one's underdeveloped genitalia to that of an adult male
-- Saying that his penis is too small to do the job
-- Laughing at and thereby humiliating him for not being able to or not knowing how to perform
-- And the list goes on.... (The same for a minor female in comparable ways)

I agree with all other points, but I will say this as a male who's first encounter was with an older female, both over the age of consent, I doubt very much that she tried by comparing him unfavorably. Much more likely she tried to talk him up as it were. I doubt she was trying to humiliate him, but I don't know.

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/21/2015 8:40:38 AM

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MILF or not, how damaging to a developing psyche and self-image would these comments be?
-- Unflattering remarks about one's genitals and/or other parts of one's body
-- Comparisons of one's underdeveloped genitalia to that of an adult male
-- Saying that his penis is too small to do the job
-- Laughing at and thereby humiliating him for not being able to or not knowing how to perform
-- And the list goes on.... (The same for a minor female in comparable ways)

I agree with all other points, but I will say this as a male who's first encounter was with an older female, both over the age of consent, I doubt very much that she tried by comparing him unfavorably. Much more likely she tried to talk him up as it were. I doubt she was trying to humiliate him, but I don't know.

I tend to see the forest for the trees at times, so these were just examples of what can happen to damage a developing psyche, when an individual becomes prematurely sexualized. It can be just as damaging or degrading when the person is grown with another fully grown adult partner (whether done carelessly without intending to humiliate), but leaves a lasting imprint which perpetually shapes or warps one's budding sexuality.

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/21/2015 1:46:39 PM

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I had a semicoherant thought. Again this is all hypothetical.

Older woman hears from a child of hers that a friend has expressed homosexual leanings. This older woman is very unaccepting of homosexuality and decides all he really needs is to feel what straight sex is to change his mind. And you know the rest of the story. This little hypothetical explains why the boy ran from the chance that most15 year olds dream about.

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/21/2015 2:48:39 PM

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I'd like to remind people throughout this thread, of my posts, so we can keep this thread on track without having any issues. (Sometimes this job is nerve wracking!

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http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4770749

Please, if you are giving details of what happened in this case, provide a link to where you got that information. The discussion and details need to be based on what is in the media and a legitimate source. Hypotheticals, details of relations with minors or in this case; must be carefully done, not encouraging the acts and post based more on the case and discussion of how a case/event like this can do harm or the legal aspects of the case or others like it.

I am not trying to ride your butts here; just covering everyones butt is more like it.

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/21/2015 4:06:18 PM

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FR

I'd like to remind people throughout this thread, of my posts, so we can keep this thread on track without having any issues. (Sometimes this job is nerve wracking! )

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4770749

Please, if you are giving details of what happened in this case, provide a link to where you got that information. The discussion and details need to be based on what is in the media and a legitimate source. Hypotheticals, details of relations with minors or in this case; must be carefully done, not encouraging the acts and post based more on the case and discussion of how a case/event like this can do harm or the legal aspects of the case or others like it.

I am not trying to ride your butts here; just covering everyones butt is more like it.

Thank you

(That sounded like it had sexual overtones to it if you ask me).

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/21/2015 4:09:28 PM

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I'd like to remind people throughout this thread, of my posts, so we can keep this thread on track without having any issues. (Sometimes this job is nerve wracking! )

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4770749

Please, if you are giving details of what happened in this case, provide a link to where you got that information. The discussion and details need to be based on what is in the media and a legitimate source. Hypotheticals, details of relations with minors or in this case; must be carefully done, not encouraging the acts and post based more on the case and discussion of how a case/event like this can do harm or the legal aspects of the case or others like it.

I am not trying to ride your butts here; just covering everyones butt is more like it.

Thank you

(That sounded like it had sexual overtones to it if you ask me).

Definitely! All that stuff about riding our butts, must be sexual.

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/21/2015 4:12:22 PM

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Good thing we are all adults!

Too funny!

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/21/2015 4:19:29 PM

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Speak for yourself, I have no intention of growing up

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/22/2015 3:28:09 AM

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As a society we have decided that it's a good idea to afford children protection as a means of gearing children towards adult life. All laws are man made contructs and 'actual reality' only comes into it to an extent: see murder/manslaughter charges for an example. The law can't account for everyone's psychological state and offer a tailor made solution accordingly: the law must operate on some basic principles and boundaries.

The basic principle we have chosen is 16 as an age of consent, and while there are clearly some 15 year olds who more mature than some 18 year olds there must be some clearly defined rules to which we all conform.

While I agree that in all likelihood this 15 year old is not going to be damaged for the rest of his life, the law has to stand for all because as a society we have decided that 16 year old is the floor for intervening in the development of our children's lives.

Whether or not you think 16 year old hits the mark, I happen to think it's about right and 15 is too young, is another argument.

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/22/2015 7:36:45 AM

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No matter how "Penthouse Forums" this story sounds - raping a child is raping a child... It is just as wrong for this woman to do what she did as it would be for a 47 year old man to get a little girl drunk and perform oral sex on her. Rape is rape! Wrong is wrong! This woman should be locked up with all of the other rapists who are destroying young lives/minds!!!

Well said honestly I think too many female offenders get off lightly.

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I think if a man would go to prison for 30 years, she should as well.

(I also wish she was my teacher).

They need to make punishments equal and uncompromising for both genders.

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/22/2015 8:13:55 AM

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at 15 years old... you are hardly a "child". I was already in the lifestyle and had started my first LTR that lasted 10 years when I was 15. I took her as my submissive. What I don't get is why a boy would turn in that nice cheerleader that did a strip tease and blew him? What's this world coming to?

I think that at 15 it's one of those things where your old enough to know better but too young to care. Either way the woman was older and should have been the responsible one. That being said I understand where you are coming from I knew about the lifestyle before I was 15 and already had aspirations of starting a LTR. Still at 15 your still young and impressionable, impressionable enough for an older individual to take advantage and manipulate that's why statutory rape laws exist to protect teens from such manipulators.

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RE: Woman Sexually Abuses Teenage Boy -- What Say You? - 1/26/2015 1:33:41 AM

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I love topics like this! Contreversial enough to get people responding, but something that can have enough different sides to it to keep a conversation going!

First I would have to say, 15 is 15, whether it's a boy or girl it is still rape. That being said, I think this situation is one that usually gets viewed with a double standard. Lots of people(most of them men I imagine!) would joke about how they wished this had happened to them when they were younger, etc. I think a fair amount of people out there wouldn't really be too upset by this situation either.

But if you were to switch things around, 47 year old man and 15 year old girl, most everyone would be offended and want the pervert fried. I am willing to bet that when convicted her sentence will be nowhere near what the sentence would be if she was a man instead. So that's where I think that the double-standard exists. That being said, I did say at the begining, 15 is 15, and I do see this as rape, whether a boy or girl and a man or woman perpetrating it.

As for the logic behind the laws, this is one of those things where it's hard to say why this age and not that one. I have met people in my time, when I was younger or as I grew, that were probably mature enough to make the decision to have sex at 15 or 16 years old. And I am sure that most of us can think of someone we have known or heard of that wasn't or isn't responsible enough to be having sex at 20, 30 or even older! Everyone is different, but there is no way to differentiate for everyone, so we have to decide to draw the line somewhere.

Actually that just brought about the train of thought for me, going off track here a little but, the age of consent varies from state to state. In some states minors can have sex or even marry below the age of consent with parental consent. Doesn't that seem kind of wrong? I mean, your son or daughter can't have sex until 16, but if mom or dad say "Go ahead, you can fuck them." then they can at 14 or 15. That just seems kind of f#$@ed up to me!

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