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long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/13/2006 9:31:32 PM

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I recently mummified my play partner with suran wrap and duct tape.. He had experienced body mummification once and loved it, but never both his head and body. We decided to try it. He said he felt fine until I unwrapped him. When he stood up, he felt very dizzy and lightheaded. He still felt that way later when I left. He did tell me after it was over that I wrapped his head pretty tight, but didn't signal me during the wrapping. Is it normal to feel dizzy for more than 10-15 minutes? Is it possible to cause brain damage by wrapping someone's head?

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/13/2006 9:35:01 PM

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for future use bubble packing wrap around hands and maybe around ears .. also around pressure points because you do not want to cut off circulation..

bubble packing is great helps you not to wrap him up too tight

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/13/2006 11:08:56 PM

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I LOVE the bubble wrap idea!! Plus i LOVE to pop the bubbles!! ;)

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/13/2006 11:18:04 PM

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I've never heard of bubble wrap, but I'm willing to try it if my partner is. He told me he doesn't want his head wrapped anymore at all. I'm just wondering why someone would be lightheaded for so long after.

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/14/2006 5:01:50 AM

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I read this post and have to say I was worried that you left your sub before he had fully recovered. That could be very dangerous if he was alone. It is a Dom/mes responsibility to look after and care for the sub and after care is important. Play can be dangerous and the consequences life threatening. I know you are asking for advice which shows you obviously do care , it just worried me a bit.

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/14/2006 5:12:50 PM

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truthfully I don't blame him lightheadedness can be from lack of oxygen ... who trained you to do such a heavy bondage?

I always suggest that a Dominate goes to another experianced RT in the type of torture that you are commiting too with another Heck I never do anything without enough training and enough Down time after

After care can make a big differance between a happy session to a sub drop feelings for many a day ...

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/14/2006 10:40:18 PM

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It's true that I'm very inexperienced at head wrapping, but he knew this and wanted me to do it because he had never experienced full body mummification. He was asked many times during the binding if he was ok. He nodded his head and even indicated that he wanted to be tortured. Also, I didn't deliberately leave him in his time of need. I massaged his neck and put my arms around him after. He said he felt light headed and wanted to take a nap. I left at his request with an affectionate parting. I spent the rest of the day worrying about him until he contacted me. I'm happy to report that after a long nap, he is fully recovered and wants to continue trying new things.

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/15/2006 1:01:11 AM

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next time your boy wants to experiment please find another with experiance to help You... it could be fatal .. then how would you feel

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/16/2006 6:47:00 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

It's true that I'm very inexperienced at head wrapping, but he knew this and wanted me to do it because he had never experienced full body mummification.

Many times as dominants we are asked to do something that a submissive really wants to explore....but it is our job as the dominant to know when and if we are ready to do so......it is up to you to lead the way.... not him....and it is up to you to learn how to do everything you do with him in the safest way...before you engage in it.

When in scene you can not always count on the submissive to honestly assess their situation to tell you if they are "ok"... sometimes when someone is aroused or in sub space they really have no clue if they are or not.... its all just sensation......which is why you need to feel absolutely comfortable with what you are doing at all times... and need to learn to read them very well....

As for the lightheadedness it could have come from the wrapping.. circualtion cut off....mild hyperventilation if breathing was restricted in any way ... or it could have just been from sub space or the excitement of it all....scening alone can sometimes cause someone to ever breathe and hyperventilate...and feel that "head rush" when they stand..... especially if he orgasmed....

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/16/2006 11:21:16 AM

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I thought a head wrap was safe as long as the person could breathe. I wish I could learn how to do everything the right way before I engage in it, but how do I learn without practice? Even worse, if I don't try the new things he wants to try, he may become bored with me and move on. I have more feelings for him than he does for me as it is. It's a struggle to keep him interested. Thanks for the advice. I will never wrap anyone's head ever again.

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/16/2006 1:48:28 PM

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When playing with this, as in breathplay, there can be some very dangerous consequences. Which is why it is best to research, research, and extensively research any form of play before doing it. he should have used his signal when he knew it was too tight.
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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/16/2006 4:18:27 PM

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quote:

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*snip* I wish I could learn how to do everything the right way before I engage in it, but how do I learn without practice? Even worse, if I don't try the new things he wants to try, he may become bored with me and move on. I have more feelings for him than he does for me as it is. It's a struggle to keep him interested. Thanks for the advice. I will never wrap anyone's head ever again.

Are you serious? your're acting like a petulant teenager. You are a 33 year old woman, you need to get your head on straight before you try things with your sub that can kill him. I will assume (and yes I know the danger of that) that you are not trained medically, because if you were you would have known not to leave your sub until he was feeling better regardless of what he said. As for learnng without practice, you learn by getting out into the scene and watching it, or by meeting with another dominant who can teach or supervise you. "thanks for the advice. I will never wrap anyones head ever again" Quite frankly this makes you sound like the sarcastic child whos been caught doing something naughty, like stealing a cookie saying "fine, I'll never eat again"

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/16/2006 8:22:26 PM

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I didn't say I would never wrap someone's head again to be sarcastic. I said it because I don't want to do anything dangerous. I honestly thought it was safe to wrap someone's head as long as they could breathe easily. I asked him several times if he was ok and he nodded his head. I'm not a mind reader. As far as me leaving, you don't know this guy. He's had some bad experiences with women. He refused to tell me where he lived for several months after I met him. When he finally did tell me, he made a comment about me leaving when he asked me to, as if he thought I wouldn't. If I had refused to leave, as you suggested, he would've freaked. I assure you, my head is screwed on straight. If I had no intelligence, I wouldn't be able to maintain a 3.9 grade point average in college. I'd love to learn from an expert, but I live in a small town where there is nobody around me to learn from. The only way I can learn is by trial and error. There are certain things I won't participate in because I think they're dangerous. Head wrapping has now been added to that list. I'm not a moron, and I would never intentionally harm anyone.

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/16/2006 10:31:03 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I didn't say I would never wrap someone's head again to be sarcastic. I said it because I don't want to do anything dangerous. I honestly thought it was safe to wrap someone's head as long as they could breathe easily. I asked him several times if he was ok and he nodded his head. I'm not a mind reader. As far as me leaving, you don't know this guy. He's had some bad experiences with women. He refused to tell me where he lived for several months after I met him. When he finally did tell me, he made a comment about me leaving when he asked me to, as if he thought I wouldn't. If I had refused to leave, as you suggested, he would've freaked. I assure you, my head is screwed on straight. If I had no intelligence, I wouldn't be able to maintain a 3.9 grade point average in college. I'd love to learn from an expert, but I live in a small town where there is nobody around me to learn from. The only way I can learn is by trial and error. There are certain things I won't participate in because I think they're dangerous. Head wrapping has now been added to that list. I'm not a moron, and I would never intentionally harm anyone.

Things just don't sound right. I don't mean to be a pessimist, but are you sure there wasn't a reason he was rushing you out the door after you'd both had a traumatic bdsm experience? Wife or another girlfriend on the way over?

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/16/2006 11:18:42 PM

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I haven't seen anyone mention the stress and body heat factors, so I'll jump in as I've done quite a few mummifications. When you had him mummified, was he standing or lying down? I'm assuming he had to be standing while you were wrapping him at least - was he supported with a rope harness during this time? If he was trying to keep his balance while unable to break a fall should that happen, the stress may well have elevated his heart rate and breathing to borderline dangerous levels. If the wrapping was too tight and hampered his breathing; this would have the same effect. Most importantly, were you in a warm room or was there air conditioning? How much of his head and body were wrapped? If this was a head to toe job, there was no way for sweat and heat to evaporate and dissipate - leaving someone like this for more than fifteen minutes in the summer can be dangerous. When I do a full mummification, there are a couple of precautions I *always* take - first, attach a rope harness over the shoulders and to a point above the head so the person is stable. Next have them raise their arms and inhale deeply while you wrap their chest; then have them lower their arms and continue securing them to the chest. This insures they'll be able to breathe freely. Place padding between the knees and ankles before wrapping the legs together; bony areas pressed together are very uncomfortable. Wrap the head *last*; leave the top of the head open to the air and obviously never, ever wrap both nose and mouth even if you plan to cut holes for air "in a minute". A person who's frightened and thrashing for air is a lousy target for someone with a knife or a pair of scissors.

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/17/2006 10:04:54 PM

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I'd never wrap both nose and mouth. Obviously, that's dangerous and stupid. His entire head and body were wrapped except for his airways.. The room was air conditioned and holes were cut in in the tape to insert ice cubes. He asked for torture. Besides, I didn't want him to overheat. I may continue to do body mummification, but I'll never wrap someone's head again. I never would've done it had I known it was as dangerous as breath play. Now deliberately cutting off someone's oxygen is something I will never understand. Talk about doing something that could kill someone...............

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/18/2006 12:41:31 AM

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MistrssM:

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As for the lightheadedness it could have come from the wrapping.. circualtion cut off....mild hyperventilation if breathing was restricted in any way ... or it could have just been from sub space or the excitement of it all....scening alone can sometimes cause someone to ever breathe and hyperventilate...and feel that "head rush" when they stand..... especially if he orgasmed....

Exactly. We don't know for sure what was going on here. The excitement of a great scene can leave Top and bottom dizzy, and a bit dissassociated for a while. I think the OP has learned a great deal, I know I did (Sdarcy's post was -- as her thoughts are -- clear, cogent, very informative and very thoughtful. Hello Mistress SD!)

Now, while I think MOST of the comments are dead on, may I ask two responders what the heck they think is going on? (Respectful flames coming...but still flames).

MistressTexas, instead of name calling, perhaps it might have been more appropriate to address the OPs very real fear that her new submissive craves extreme play, and she fears that without it she'll lose his interest and lose him. In NO WAY can I read her post that you vituperatively overreacted too to be petulant or sarcastic. I took her declaration "I'll never wrap anyone's head ever again" to be a remorseful statement of intent. You took it as some sort of thrown down gauntlet, and it clearly was not. I think you owe her an apology, Ma'am.

And AAksha, your comment just leaves Me baffled. Do you wrestle with demons of infidelity and therefore see it everywhere you look? Your question/inference to the OP makes no sense in context. She was pretty clear that this submissive had relationship issues which she appears to have transcended, for the time being. Where did you get the idea that she was "rushed out the door" because of a wife or girlfriend coming over? It makes no sense, and frankly it is a divisive, unhelpful comment.

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/19/2006 8:04:32 PM

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Thanks for defending me to Mistress Texas. She was totally wrong about me not caring about what happened to him. Unfortunately, I'm in love with the guy. AAksha may be right about the other woman thing since he doesn't like me coming over unannounced. I do know there's no wife though cause there are no women's possessions at his house. To be honest, I've given up on trying to figure him out. He says one thing and then says something totally the opposite the next day. Some men just can't be figured out.

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 7/30/2006 1:26:45 PM

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Assuming he doesn't have high blood pressure, in which case that would be the culprit, I'd just avoid whole head wrapping in the future. You tried it, he was less than honest about how he felt afterwards, which is his fault and something you might wish to talk to him about.

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RE: long lasting head rush after mummification - 10/25/2006 7:30:36 AM

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for future reference do not leave someone light headed alone in a place where noone can keep an eye on them.. what happens if he had of needed assistance ? had a turn? collapsed after standing?? the commitment to that person should have lasted until they came good .. even if it meant an overnight stay//MF

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