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I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 9:48:25 AM

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I work hard and I make good money. I love what money buys for me. When I buy something nice I feel appreciated and I deserve it.

I meet so many women that want me, and men, to buy them nice things. And I'm talking about women I don't know very well. For example, I saw a woman twice, strictly platonic, and she said she wants a boob job and was hoping to find a man to pay for it.

I paid cash for my car and I love it. If someone paid it for me, I just wouldn't feel good about it. The car wouldn't have as much value to it then.

I don't understand why some women want men to pay for all their things. Isn't what they get devalued and not appreciated?

I was corresponding with a woman on this site and she wanted to meet me for lunch, but she would like $100. She isn't a Dominatrix. Don't women realize how difficult it is for people these days? Don't they care?

RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 10:01:23 AM

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She may also well have been a guy that wouldn't have turned up. That's why it says in great big red letters to not give your money to anyone. Basically it goes like this; anyone can ask you for anything, but you have this exceptionally powerful thing. It's absolutely tiny, but exceptionally effective. One little word....No. You're welcome.

for the record, some of us women take great pleasure in earning our own money, and buying our own things. Also, women aren't the only ones willing to take advantage.

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 10:09:05 AM

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Some women are lazy and think the best way to avoid getting a real job is to find someone else to support them. Some men are lazy and think the best way to avoid getting a real job is to find someone else to support them. And it's been that way for as long as I can remember. The internet has only made it easier for them. Could be why CS put up that big red warning not to send money to anyone.

That said I have been dating women for over 30 years and I haven't had a problem with it. Maybe you should look at the constant and see if there is anything you can do to change that.

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 10:19:22 AM

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i have never asked a man to pay me to show up for a date. any amount, ever. yes, i expect him to pick up the tab for our date, but i have never charged a trip fee to get in my car and meet him. trip charges are for plumbers and air conditioning people lol

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 10:19:42 AM

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Hey..I don't get it either andI am a woman. It is not just a kink thing either...there are many women on vanilla dating sites that are also looking for sugar daddies. I do think men have equal responsibility in perpetuating this though. Instead of looking for a less than perfect or older than 30, older men that have resources learned they could buy what no one else was willing to give them. I don't like the women's attitude either but, really, if there is no buyer...there IS no market (look at the opposite...how many males on here or other places demand money from women-heterosexual male prostitution might have been more successful if that was the case!)

Me? I am nervous about letting a man buy me DINNER because I never want to be beholden to someone (I am like that across the board though-parents, siblings..you take their money and you may have to accept their interference). I had a hard time as a SAHM because I did not feel like I earned any of the family money.

If you meet someone that asks for money...tell them you are sorry they were willing to value themselves so cheaply. The boob job girl? Say "damn...that is only $5k...I am looking for someone who is worth more than that. Sell yourself at Walmart. I buy at Tiffany's"

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 10:32:02 AM

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I've never dated a man who earned more than me. Yet the point is not to generalise - not all men want my money, not all women want your money. If you are meeting lots of women who do want your money then the common denominator is you. Are you talking about earnings too much? Bragging? Talking to women who want sugar daddies or to be 'taken care of'? Try looking for women who are proud of their independence, live on their own, work hard, etc. You get what you search for in this world.

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 10:47:06 AM

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I've never dated a man who earned more than me. Yet the point is not to generalise - not all men want my money, not all women want your money. If you are meeting lots of women who do want your money then the common denominator is you. Are you talking about earnings too much? Bragging? Talking to women who want sugar daddies or to be 'taken care of'? Try looking for women who are proud of their independence, live on their own, work hard, etc. You get what you search for in this world.

I guess my post came across as if I think ALL women want money from men, and that wasn't my intention. I've met plenty of women who work 40 hours a week and they would feel insulted if a man offered her money for something. What I don't understand is those women who want men to pay for their things. I would think they would not appreciate all their things because it came to easy.

And as someone pointed out, it's not just women want money from men. I know this guy and his goal is to hitch up with a welfare woman because he doesn't want to work. I just don't understand. Why wouldn't he want to work?

Could you say that those people who want the "easy" life lack self-esteem, self-worth and are lazy?

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 10:53:04 AM

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most people dont "want" to work. we do it because quitting and having no income is near certain death and despair. i will also note, i appreciate gifts i have been given just as much as the things i purchased on my own. i appreciate your hard workin spirit, but people look forward to weekends and vacations for a reason lol. work sucks, and most would opt out if they could.

give 100 people the lifestyle they are accustomed to, and tell them work is now optional. do it at your leisure, or not at all, your bank account will never suffer... there may be 3 people leaving for work on monday morning.

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 11:25:54 AM

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most people dont "want" to work. we do it because quitting and having no income is near certain death and despair. i will also note, i appreciate gifts i have been given just as much as the things i purchased on my own. i appreciate your hard workin spirit, but people look forward to weekends and vacations for a reason lol. work sucks, and most would opt out if they could.

give 100 people the lifestyle they are accustomed to, and tell them work is now optional. do it at your leisure, or not at all, your bank account will never suffer... there may be 3 people leaving for work on monday morning.

This is so true kittenluv954. The fact is weekends and vacation are sacred things while buying time to eventually get to retirement. If given a choice and the bank account not suffer would not go to work on Monday, but not hitting the lottery this week back to the rate race.

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 11:45:44 AM

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I'm trying to remember who the comedian is that first stated

Women's logic after marriage. What's mine is mine, What's ours is mine. What's yours is ours.

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 11:51:30 AM

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I don't get what is so confusing about this..? Some people don't like to work for things. It just not dawned on you that this was the case? And yes I agree with the above statements about the type of women you're searching for.

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 12:30:40 PM

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i have never asked a man to pay me to show up for a date. any amount, ever. yes, i expect him to pick up the tab for our date, but i have never charged a trip fee to get in my car and meet him. trip charges are for plumbers and air conditioning people lol

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 12:40:03 PM

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Everybody is doing something for something.

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 12:52:35 PM

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I wish I could help.

While I know a thing or two about money, what I know about women who demand money could fit in a thimble with room left over for what I know about quantum physics.

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 12:59:58 PM

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It's the female equivalent of the guy that brags about getting a blow job without having to pay for dinner. It's a defense mechanism, they have been used so think all dating is about what you can get out of it.

A lot of people set up their lives around doing what they feel they have to or are supposed to and as a result don't enjoy it. I love working, but as soon as I stop loving whatever job I have at that point I quit and find another when I feel like doing that. It's about what you decide to value, if you want that American dream you make sacrifices.

Also if someone is asking for money that probably is their job... you are right times are hard. For centuries women weren't the primary workforce even when I was a kid I was told women aren't supposed to go to work they are supposed to marry and take care of the kids. That ideology made a big shift fairly recently. Now women are in the workforce and half of people are out of work.... people often feel using people is their only option. I know a girl who hates her relationship, majored in biology, but could only find work part time in a pet shop. Her guy is poly just to collect roommates to help pay the bills despite him having a cushy government job that's not enough to cover the cost of living. I know another who has a doctorate and a job in her field... she lives with her boyfriend and his grandpa and takes care of them pays their bills and his way through school because she wouldn't have anywhere else to live. Most of the people I know went from making a lot of money in the early 2000's to barely scraping by. In fact the only people I know who can afford their rent here in cali are those collecting alimony/child support. A lot of people feel that's the only way, she might want to work but can't find anything, or what she can find doesn't even cover the cost of gas and child care to be able to work. I'm getting way too into this though so I'll stop there.

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 1:02:51 PM

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I'm struggling with this.

I've only been asked for money once by a member of this site, since I joined.

Obviously there are lots of profiles that scream "this is a pro" or "this is a scam" but I don't pay any attention to them.

I have a really very strong preference for smart, confident, successful women and there really are plenty of them on this site.

I would really recommend you reflect on your searching and filtering process. You seem like a pretty decent guy, although your profile text isn't going to light any fires with the smarter more independent woman (They'll be looking for evidence in your profile text that you're a decent human being and that you understand what it takes to form a functional relationship).

My advice is .... revisit your profile and tune up your searching.

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 1:22:42 PM

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I work hard and I make good money. I love what money buys for me. When I buy something nice I feel appreciated and I deserve it.

I meet so many women that want me, and men, to buy them nice things. And I'm talking about women I don't know very well. For example, I saw a woman twice, strictly platonic, and she said she wants a boob job and was hoping to find a man to pay for it.

I paid cash for my car and I love it. If someone paid it for me, I just wouldn't feel good about it. The car wouldn't have as much value to it then.

I don't understand why some women want men to pay for all their things. Isn't what they get devalued and not appreciated?

I was corresponding with a woman on this site and she wanted to meet me for lunch, but she would like $100. She isn't a Dominatrix. Don't women realize how difficult it is for people these days? Don't they care?

I'm stunned at the naivety in the world sometimes.

There are, and have been for millennia, women who make their living off men. There have also been men who have the wealth and enjoy the power it brings them.

If you are meeting a lot of them, you really need to reconsider where and how you're looking, how you're presenting yourself, what you're looking for and what your filters are, and then--clearly change your approach.

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 1:34:33 PM

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i have never asked a man to pay me to show up for a date. any amount, ever. yes, i expect him to pick up the tab for our date, but i have never charged a trip fee to get in my car and meet him. trip charges are for plumbers and air conditioning people lol

Why would you expect a guy to pick up the tab on a date? we want equal rights, equal pay, and to be taken seriously, but then you expect the best of both worlds by expecting him to pick up the bill for a date?

it's nice if he wants to, and indeed offers, but it should never be expected.

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 1:42:33 PM

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i am not "we", please dont assume to know what i want, or dictate to me how things "should" be in my life. my previous statement stands.

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RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money - 2/8/2015 1:47:34 PM

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I generally expect to pay for a date if I approach a lady.

That being said, you could have left off the "& Money" part of your title. You seem to have trouble not generalizing and, despite what some men will claim, not a one of us has the first clue how women operate.

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