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RE: Progressive Education - 3/30/2016 10:11:55 PM   
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"Survey finds notable increase in proportion of professors who identify as "far left" or liberal, and declines for all other groups."


It would appear that you favor quotas. Why is that?


Seriously, do you know how manifestly stupid that sounds?

I know how stupid you are to post such drivel.

Isn't the lefts sine qua non "diversity" . Except, it seems, when its not.

That would be your ignorant, unsubstantiated opinion. So until you can cite some credible source ,and not your opinion, about the "sine qua non" of the "left" you are just making noise with your mouth.


Says the man without a quote.

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RE: Progressive Education - 3/31/2016 9:19:37 PM   
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"Survey finds notable increase in proportion of professors who identify as "far left" or liberal, and declines for all other groups."


It would appear that you favor quotas. Why is that?


Seriously, do you know how manifestly stupid that sounds?

I know how stupid you are to post such drivel.

Isn't the lefts sine qua non "diversity" . Except, it seems, when its not.

That would be your ignorant, unsubstantiated opinion. So until you can cite some credible source ,and not your opinion, about the "sine qua non" of the "left" you are just making noise with your mouth.
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Says the man without a quote.

You are the one posting shit that is nothing but opinion and claiming it to be fact.

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RE: Progressive Education - 4/1/2016 4:46:38 AM   
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Nobody is going to shell out good money for a regressive imbecile to lecture on creationism and cretinism.

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RE: Progressive Education - 4/1/2016 6:05:21 AM   
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Nobody is going to shell out good money for a regressive imbecile to lecture on creationism and cretinism.

Bullshit....bounty buys tickets by the roll like shit paper.

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RE: Progressive Education - 4/27/2016 3:28:47 PM   
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"UMass Amherst students throw temper tantrum at free speech event"

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Students at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst set a new high for hysteria Monday night at an event featuring Christina Hoff Sommers, Milo Yiannopoulos, and Steven Crowder

Protesters shouted obscenities in an effort to silence the speakers, saying they espouse "hate speech"

The event was intended to be a forum and discussion about the use of political correctness on campus, but degenerated into a shouting match as protesters sought to drown out the speakers with cries of “hate speech” and, less imaginatively, “fuck you.”

One of the protesters took it upon herself to pass out literature expressing her concern for the “triggering” event, claiming the speakers “all demonstrate either that you don’t give a shit about people’s trauma and pain and think it’s funny to thrust people into states of panic and distress OR that you fundamentally do not understand what a trigger is, what it means to be triggered, and what a trigger warning is meant to prevent.”...

As the speakers walked onto the stage they were greeted with boos and middle fingers from many audience members, to which Steven Crowder graciously responded with a middle finger of his own.

The speakers were constantly interrupted throughout the event by shouts from the audience to “go home” or that “we don’t want you here,”...

When the protester attempts to interrupt Yiannopoulos at the beginning of the video, Hoff Sommers tells her to “calm down, young lady.” Paying no heed, the protester responds with an impassioned “Fuck you! Fuck you!”

Later on, the young lady begins loudly asserting that “hate speech is not welcome here” and demanding that the speakers “keep your hate speech off this campus,” all while insisting that she is the true embodiment of free speech.


http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=7528

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RE: Progressive Education - 4/27/2016 9:42:21 PM   
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RE: Progressive Education - 4/30/2016 4:57:32 PM   
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"Bravo, Bloomberg: Former Mayor Rips Political Correctness Culture At University Of Michigan Commencement"

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Bloomberg delivered the commencement address at the University of Michigan, where he said that the “safe space” is “one of the most dangerous places on a college campus.” Here’s a portion of his address:

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The most useful knowledge that you leave here with today has nothing to do with your major. It’s about how to study, cooperate, listen carefully, think critically and resolve conflicts through reason. Those are the most important skills in the working world, and it’s why colleges have always exposed students to challenging and uncomfortable ideas.

The fact that some university boards and administrations now bow to pressure and shield students from these ideas through “safe spaces,” “code words” and “trigger warnings” is, in my view, a terrible mistake.

The whole purpose of college is to learn how to deal with difficult situations -- not run away from them. A microaggression is exactly that: micro. And one of the most dangerous places on a college campus is a safe space, because it creates the false impression that we can insulate ourselves from those who hold different views.

We can’t do this, and we shouldn’t try -- not in politics or in the workplace. In the global economy, and in a democratic society, an open mind is the most valuable asset you can possess.


Of course, there were some precious cupcakes that disagreed stringently with Bloomberg; you can hear them in the background. Ironically, some of these Michigan kids (with their jeers) have just proven his point. All he said was that open minds are what has made America great, and that tolerating views that you find deplorable is the price you pay for living in a free thinking society. It’s time to grow up, kids.


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/04/30/bravo-bloomberg-former-mayor-rips-political-correctness-culture-at-university-of-michigan-commencement-n2156136


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RE: Progressive Education - 5/2/2016 8:37:13 PM   
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Just what is the actual, real life issue, here?

That some of the crap taught in the university of today might be a tad to the "left,' in any classroom whatsoever? By who's estimation?

As an "expreincer" (from age six to age fifty-four, with several break-ups twixt and tween) of the -high-on-drugs-but-with-out-the-drugs-like milieu that has always been, and ever will be thus, in that hyper-parochial, insular, philosophically incestuous foundation therein ...

It seems to irk you to a disproportionate extent that, amongst the ever increasing numbers of graduates from that process who go on to do things like coding for apps, finding new ways to annoy the populace by way of pop-ups, how to lay off more workers, how to come up with financial constructs to steal people's homes out from under them, etc., that some few of them might survive their business or marketing major with a different idea regarding how 'capitalism' might work.

If all that doesn't tell you what the actual agenda is, then there is no better example of a 'lost cause.'

The uni can't teach that. It has to come from that person. Not that they (the uni) haven't tried, but they fail , with some, because they are so uber-focused on this latest 'mitarbeit' "work together" thing that is now instilled into every classroom possible, which is so blatantly counter productive to actually learning the subject at hand that it's laughable. But considering the way that things have been going in the last few decades (even before and during the "work together" thing, though intensifying after), I think that it's safe to say that the uni system in the US has failed miserably.

There is nothing the least bit "left" about any of that. It's about getting everybody "on board," "getting with the program," "tear up the job description," and all that.

THAT is the predominance that pervades the modern university, in every department, however cleverly disguised else wise.

All the rest, e.g., the utterly idiotic "What do you think?" crap that they shove into every US history and US government text books nowadays, in the side bars of the page, so as to intentionally distract from the historical or factual matter at hand, preceded by the most inane and logically deconstructive "questions" imaginable.

Here's the news, budreux ...

The middle east wasn't invaded twice (OK, actually a lot more than that, read some history), nor did the financial crisis come about, because of 'leftist' ideals.

But, with all these new fangled apps, and all these new ways to steal your personal info, not to mention your home and retirement fund, you're worried about "lefties" at today's university? The same people who spit out to society all the aforementioned?


Oh, ha ha, ha ha, .....




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RE: Progressive Education - 5/2/2016 10:29:50 PM   
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Here's the news, folks.

Glistening over our 'higher education' or whatever putative 'standards' thereby for and of it's own sake isn't going to save the day, anymore than learning how to be an ant from age six weeks onwards (whereupon 'daycare' starts in the US, for a reason) contributes toward the cause of evolution at all.

Those who are born "good students" are those with a proclivity to do as they are told, and have an inclination to take things at face value. Which makes up at least 90% of all instructors and 'good students.' It doesn't matter if these people are 'right' or 'left' in their philosophical religion, they push through their Phd and find a job that pays them for their personal insecurity, hired by their own type.





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RE: Progressive Education - 5/2/2016 11:37:55 PM   
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To the OP:

Why is it that, if the university system in the US is so "leftist," and, that the students come into it so 'leftie' (by your account), they then come out of it with such hyper-capitalist skill sets, and rarin' to go? THIS is your proposition as to how 'leftie' the US uni system is?

Oh, STOPPP!

Or is this just another "I hate Democrats because they know how to make money too" diatribe?












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RE: Progressive Education - 5/3/2016 1:31:10 AM   
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For some reason this post got all FUBARed.

Maybe I try again but it is late.

T^T

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RE: Progressive Education - 5/3/2016 4:42:57 AM   
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there were so many things wrong in the three posts before yours that it would take too long to address...

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RE: Progressive Education - 5/3/2016 6:38:50 AM   
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Too many facts thrown in the face of fanciful ideas, backed by selective quotes and nut job blogs, you mean.

I've still got the text books ('What do you think?) and email instructions from professors and recent memory of perplexed looks on the faces of these young folks.

But you got ... The Blogs!

Oh, pardon me, let me stand out of the way, sir.

Carry on!



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RE: Progressive Education - 5/3/2016 8:53:18 AM   
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Oh, and by the way ...

China is not sending their best and brightest to US universities by the cargo ship load for purpose of further installation of 'leftist ideals,' unfathomable as that may be to a person of your mindset.

Nope, it's because the US university system is 100% focused on how to turn basic knowledge (especially 'high tech') into cash, as soon as possible. But at the same time, increasing the distance between us by way of 'expressing your view,' "what do you think?" All the while foisting upon the student the overtly logical disconnect between your own view and that of another completely in apposition having equal validity, so that you can go against your own principles when you get into the work place, the mark of a "team player."

The US uni promotes 'basic knowledge' as a way to increase advertising revenue by way of social engineering, starting right there in the classroom. The Chinese just steal all this basic knowledge for purpose of things like genetic research, materials science, computer and robotic science, etc.

No doubt, China, overall, is still 50 years behind the US at the moment, but when they eventually attain with 10% of their population having the knowledge of physics, genetics, etc. for purpose of producing something actually useful to a society, as opposed to the 100% US intention of furthering the cause of social media, hyper-target advertising, and 'high' (as a kite) finance, ...

Look out, folks. It's coming, even as we bite our nails about the 'politics' that might be involved.



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RE: Progressive Education - 5/5/2016 3:31:27 PM   
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"Precious Snowflakes Targeted Black Cartoonist For Criticizing Black Lives Matter"

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Oh, here we go again. Precious snowflakes in college griping about how they’re offended and expect the school’s administration to do something about it because they’re ignorant of free speech. It’s a typical tale, and this one from Wesley College in Dove, Delaware isn’t any different. In this case, a black cartoonist criticized Black Lives Matter (oh yeah, the kid went for the gold on this one), which initiated a cupcake nation alert that led to the illustrator being labeled a…racist. So, progressive softies tried to make the case that a black person is racist for going against the grain and offering some criticism of the Black Lives Matter movement—sadly, this seems in keeping with their authoritarian mindset (via Campus Reform).

Reform added that Griffin and a few other snowflakes demanded that first-year president Richard Clarke II condemn the cartoon, which he did, and increase the percentage of black staff and faculty at the school by 10 percent. Right, because that will totally make everything better. There’s no issue here. None.

Regardless, the fact that the cupcake legions used this to push a diversity initiative says all there is about campus progressives. Demonize conservatives, blame the administration for allowing them to exercise their right to free speech, complain, and then demand the administration increase the level of diversity within the faculty.


one of the comments was particularly good; something to the effect of that students "demanding" what they did is evidence that they belong in daycare as opposed to college.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/05/05/precious-snowflakes-targeted-black-cartoonist-for-criticizing-black-lives-matter-n2158411

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RE: Progressive Education - 5/6/2016 2:20:28 PM   
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Oh, and by the way ...

China is not sending their best and brightest to US universities by the cargo ship load for purpose of further installation of 'leftist ideals,' unfathomable as that may be to a person of your mindset.

Nope, it's because the US university system is 100% focused on how to turn basic knowledge (especially 'high tech') into cash, as soon as possible. But at the same time, increasing the distance between us by way of 'expressing your view,' "what do you think?" All the while foisting upon the student the overtly logical disconnect between your own view and that of another completely in apposition having equal validity, so that you can go against your own principles when you get into the work place, the mark of a "team player."

The US uni promotes 'basic knowledge' as a way to increase advertising revenue by way of social engineering, starting right there in the classroom. The Chinese just steal all this basic knowledge for purpose of things like genetic research, materials science, computer and robotic science, etc.

No doubt, China, overall, is still 50 years behind the US at the moment, but when they eventually attain with 10% of their population having the knowledge of physics, genetics, etc. for purpose of producing something actually useful to a society, as opposed to the 100% US intention of furthering the cause of social media, hyper-target advertising, and 'high' (as a kite) finance, ...

Look out, folks. It's coming, even as we bite our nails about the 'politics' that might be involved.



What, they're fifty years behind the times because they still have manufacturing industries that bring revenue into their country, rather than pumping it out?


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RE: Progressive Education - 5/6/2016 3:46:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Edwird

Oh, and by the way ...

China is not sending their best and brightest to US universities by the cargo ship load for purpose of further installation of 'leftist ideals,' unfathomable as that may be to a person of your mindset.

Nope, it's because the US university system is 100% focused on how to turn basic knowledge (especially 'high tech') into cash, as soon as possible. But at the same time, increasing the distance between us by way of 'expressing your view,' "what do you think?" All the while foisting upon the student the overtly logical disconnect between your own view and that of another completely in apposition having equal validity, so that you can go against your own principles when you get into the work place, the mark of a "team player."

The US uni promotes 'basic knowledge' as a way to increase advertising revenue by way of social engineering, starting right there in the classroom. The Chinese just steal all this basic knowledge for purpose of things like genetic research, materials science, computer and robotic science, etc.

No doubt, China, overall, is still 50 years behind the US at the moment, but when they eventually attain with 10% of their population having the knowledge of physics, genetics, etc. for purpose of producing something actually useful to a society, as opposed to the 100% US intention of furthering the cause of social media, hyper-target advertising, and 'high' (as a kite) finance, ...

Look out, folks. It's coming, even as we bite our nails about the 'politics' that might be involved.



What, they're fifty years behind the times because they still have manufacturing industries that bring revenue into their country, rather than pumping it out?




Not saying that at all. And I'm not going to tell you or anyone else that just because I got a good grade on my somewhat lengthy "Chinese Domestic Economy" paper for one of my classes at the uni makes me an 'expert' on the matter. Far from it.

I also get some info about their society from these 'Chinese detective agency' fiction books I like, even though, by these authors' accounts, a private detective agency is actually outlawed in China. And there is also CRI- Chinese Radio International, whose 'Biz Report' program (on local AM radio!) far exceeds anything I've heard on US or European radio (though Deutcshe Welle, on the internet, ain't half bad either).

In any case, I was actually being generous in saying they were 50 years behind, when 150 years behind would be closer to the truth.

What I mean by that is the working hours (14-15 hrs. a day, six days a week,), living in worker dorms, etc., considered 'good' if they can get $20 a day out of it. So they can make basketball shoes that sell for $350 in the US, or a 'smart' phone for $400-$600. A somewhat different subject, but Pakistani 10 yr. olds make all those soccer balls for European and American 10 yr. olds (or 16 yr.olds) to kick around.

Conditions like in the US or the UK or most of Europe 100-150 years ago.

You also have to understand what "net exports" means. Many Chinese parents have to eat a LOT less for a week to get the kid some shoes; that being the case, it's safe to say that domestic spending is an issue there, but at the same time meaning that Chinese -net- exports are 'supported,' as it were, by that metric as much as by total exports.

Where does that "revenue coming into the country" you allude to go? It ain't to the workers, I can tell you that. And that, more than anything, is why China is 'behind.'

China is aware of all this (or, at least their wonderful economists are), but there is no issue in a country of 1.3 billion population that can be changed overnight. It be a slow slog, whatever they do.




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RE: Progressive Education - 5/12/2016 7:30:50 AM   
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"Dry Rot in Academia"

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Jason Riley has now joined the long and distinguished list of people invited -- and then disinvited -- to give a talk on a college campus, in this case Virginia Tech.
Mr. Riley is a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a columnist for the Wall Street Journal and, perhaps most relevantly, author of a very insightful book titled "Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make It Harder for Blacks to Succeed."

In short, Jason Riley's views on race are different from the views that prevail on most college campuses. At one time, 50 years ago or earlier, exposing students to a different viewpoint was considered to be a valuable part of their education. But that was before academia -- and the education system in general -- became virtually a monopoly of the political left.

Today one can literally go from kindergarten to becoming a graduate student seeking a Ph.D., without ever hearing a vision of the world that conflicts with the vision of the left...

As a young Marxist in college during the 1950s heyday of the anti-Communist crusade led by Senator Joseph McCarthy, I had more freedom to express my views in class, without fear of retaliation, than conservative students have on many campuses today.


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RE: Progressive Education - 5/12/2016 7:45:55 AM   
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So a comedy show skit upset so many people they are calling to pull it off the air...why? because it took the piss out of Donald Trump.
Pheh, there's "education" for you



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RE: Progressive Education - 5/19/2016 6:07:16 PM   
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"Black Pro-Life Speaker called a ‘F*cking Piece of Sh*t’ by Harvard Students"

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African-American pro-life activist Ryan Bomberger was aggressively shouted down and called a “f*cking piece of shit” during a lecture event about abortion in black communities that took place in late April at Harvard Law School.

According to Bomberger, what was intended to be a ten minute Q&A turned into an hour of students shouting insults at the speaker. “Most of the time I couldn’t respond to everything going on,” Bomberger said. “Students cursed and yelled at me repeatedly, especially an LGBT activist who called me a ‘f*cking piece of sh*t’. Some students called me (and I’m trying not to laugh) a ‘racist’ and stated that ‘I hate black people.’”

Most of the students took issue with Bomberger’s publicizing of the fact that more African-American babies are aborted than born in New York City. Because of the anger in response to this, Bomberger claims that most of the Harvard students didn’t wait to be called on, and instead chose to shout out over each other. Despite the chaos, he claims he remained calm and addressed the student’s arguments individually.

“The goal was to introduce truth into fact-free ‘safe spaces,’” Bomberger said. “I had hoped that students would leave disturbed about the social injustice of abortion. I challenged them to investigate the thoroughly documented evidence I presented and come to fully informed decisions themselves.”

Bomberger shared his personal story of being conceived in rape and how that has shaped his perspective about the value of all human life. He spoke about the hostility he has faced for his pro-life position and criticized modern academia for misunderstanding its purpose in challenging students to think about all perspectives.

“Much of academia is ironically, and dangerously, intolerant,” Bomberger said. “If ‘education is power,’ miseducation is just as, if not more, powerful. Universities have become bastions of singular distorted perspectives and efforts to force assimilation. Fact have no place in spaces reserved solely for feelings.”

“The insecurity of college administrators and some of today’s students manifests itself in sovereign little limited-speech nations that are in direct contrast with the land of the free and home of the brave which birthed them,” he said. “Too many forget that we have a free speech zone, and it spans from coast to coast across this great country.”


ah those wonderfully tolerant lefties...

http://www.breitbart.com/abortion/2016/05/19/black-pro-life-speaker-called-a-fcking-piece-of-sht-by-harvard-students/


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